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The Gregory Baltoro 70 Backpack is an ideal weekend pack for hikers who like to stay organized, thanks to its three access points into the main compartment and a large front pocket. This pack allows you to access gear through the top, the bottom or access it from the inside of the front pocket. Its pivoting Response frame moves with your body as you hike, comfortably carrying loads up to 50lbs. A waterproof bottom, stretch side pockets and hydration sleeve round out the features on this great pack.
Bottom Line: The Baltoro combines easy access with bombproof construction.
This thing squeaked every step I took for 40 miles of a 60 mile trip. I love the hip belt, but hate the shoulder straps. They felt like they were factory pre-shaped for someone else. Perhaps, they would conform to me with more use, but I'll never know. I won't use this pack again. If you backpack along a raging river, or in 70 mile an hour winds, I suppose this one will do. However, if you ever walk in a quiet forest or atop a ridge on a calm day, take another pack. The constant squeaking will drive you back to the solitude of your work cubicle. I not only would not buy this pack again, I would like to return it to the manufacturer. In 20 years of backpacking, this is the single most frustrating piece of equipment I have used. Back to the Dana.
How do I order this pack in a Large but with a Medium Hipbelt ? Do I have to order a Large and send back the Hipbelt to get a Medium or must I call Backcountry to place the order instead of using the website ? I have not used online shopping much
Your best bet would to be to contact Gregory direct. This is similar to asking for a 8.5 left shoe and a 9 right shoe. It is not practical from a business standpoint to sell it that way. I would try the large and see if the belt is still too big. I hope that helps.
This is one of the best packs i have ever bought and after three years it barely has any signs of wear. Tons of access to the main compartment and the perfect amount of exterior pockets make it a great trekking backpack which can hold all your gear without a problem. The waist belt is extremely well padded and has extra zippered pockets where you can stash your little trinkets. The pack also has a multitude of places to clip carabiners on to if needed. Overall, a very comfortable carrier which makes a heavy load easily bearable. Well worth the price!!
I was just curious if this 70L pack will fit in an overhead compartment on a plane? Has anyone traveled with this pack fully packed and if so did the airline let you carry it on?
I frequently travel overhead compartment only with my Black Diamond 50L Predator backpack--STUFFED! Yes, it's true. It never really looks like it'll fit, but backpacks are generally soft and flexible. Once the hipbelt is past the lip of the compartment door, it's good to go. I certainly haven't had any "Meet the Parents" encounters with a nasty flight attendant.
No. Most airlines follow a policy that no check in bag can be greater than 45 linear inches, meaning if you add the length, width, and height, it should equal less than 45 inches (some airlines give actual dimensions, but you'll notice that they follow this guideline). This pack is greater than 45 linear inches.
I'm highly skeptical that they'd let you carry this on, or that it would fit in the first place. I traveled from Seattle to Paris with a 42L pack (Black Diamond Sphinx if you're curious) and that barely fit. I don't think there's any way I could have gotten away with almost double that.
I am so impressed with this pack. I have never had a pack that didn't hurt until this one. My back, and shoulders were not sore after a 30 mile, 3 day hike. There were times when I would hike 2 miles without adjusting any of the straps. With all other packs I have owned I would adjust the straps every 10 minutes because it was uncomfortable. The pack is a little on the heavy side but that is because it has everything you need, plenty of pockets and extras. I would much rather carry a backpack that is 5 pounds and is really comfortable and doesn't hurt my back then one that is 2.5 pounds and be miserable on the trail. This is the the cream of the crop. if you want everything you got it. do yourself a favor and treat yourself to the baltoro.
If you're new to this, I'd stay away from tarptents unless you have an intense desire to go ultra-ultralight from the getgo. Remember, what you gain in weight savings, you potentially sacrifice in comfort, performance, durability, etc. There's nothing wrong with tarptents--I just wouldn't start out with them. The brands listed in one of the answers to your question are great brands. Also check out REI-brand tents. Their stuff is drastically cheaper yet they still win awards.
I would suggest the Kelty Ridge 2. Very light and good price with lots of space. You can find it here on BC. It is what I use with this pack. It matches the orange pack too. Great combo.
I would suggest the Nemo Equipment Nano. This is between 2.8 lbs and 3.7 lbs depending on what model you want. Nemo tents are extremely well designed and durable. Not to mention its nearly impossible to find a 2.8 freestanding two person tent. www.nemoequipment.com
Man, talk about an open ended question! As far as tents go, i would look at Marmot, TNF, Big Agnes, Black Diamond, and Mountian Hardwear. They will all have comparable models with similar specs on weight and size. If you are looking for the best bang for your buck i would look at Marmot and Big Agnes. They both seem to get the weight down without really compromising on much else. Maybe the Aeolus from Marmot and the Seedhouse/Copper Spur/Emerald Mnt. lines from Big Agnes. Hope this helps. I am sure you will get multiple answers for this question. Cheers!
Well for anyone who may have the 'issue' that the person below had, I believe they have a female version which probably addresses that situation (but not need to tell them that.)
Anyway, I love this pack very much. I had the Z-55 and needed to upgrade size so sent that one in to get this. The thing I liked about the Z-55 was that it was slender and fit close to my back so I didn't get knocked off balance. Since this is a bigger bag, it protrudes more outwards but can be tightened when there is excess space. Even though it protrudes out, I don't feel it messing up my balance that much. What I really love about this pack is that there are lots of places to put everything. I was actually able to stuff my sleeping bag on the top piece, put my tent in the sleeping bag compartment, rain gear in the front pocket, flashlights and stuff on one side pocket, first aid and soap stuff on the other, and a granola bar and knife on the waist strap pockets.
I love this pack. Its extremely comfortable as well.
Was able to fit my sleeping bag in the top pouch, tent in the bottom pouch and everything else in between. Nothing hanging out! (other than the water tubes)
This pack is amazing. I have carried weight for myself, wife and son in this. At one point there was some slight soreness on the shoulders. That was when I had to clip my wife's pack on to mine with biners. I think I had about 70 or 80 lbs. I never really weighed all of it, but it seemed to be more than my old ruck which was about 72lbs. Anyways, this pack has amazing CONVENIENT features and has many load adjusters for a change of support. All around it is what everyone else has said. Good pack.
Thanks Brian. I tried Baltoro on - 30 lbs was easy & 50 lbs was heavy. Seems easier on shoulders than Osprey Aether (but didnt adjust back straps) but Aether seems more firmly attached to my back & didnt swing like the Baltoro when turning. Unlike Aether, Baltoro doesnt have tab to attach camelback in sleeve and doesnt have straps or loops on shoulder to attach camelback tube, whistle or anything else. How do those two compare to you.
You need the correct adjustments to prevent the swing on the pack. To slim it down, make sure the compression straps are pulled tightly on the sides. This will keep the center of gravity closer to your back. To get a tight feel, the two straps which are on your shoulders should be pulled tightly. What that will do will pull the top part of the pack towards your shoulders creating a snug fit.
As for the camelback, I used the baltoro for a 125 day thru-hike of the Appalachian Trail without any problems with the hydration port. What I did for the tube was just got a clip and clipped it to my chest strap.
I just started backpacking again last summer, and picked one of these up for a weekend trip on the Appalachian trail in New Hampshire. I was a boy scout for 6 years, and I wish they had packs like this back then. Comfort-wise it was like night and day compared to the old external frame packs I remember using. Even compared to some of the somewhat modern gear that my buddies had, it was better fitting and I could easily carry more in it without any strain on my back. I've only used it a couple of times so far so I can't vouch for the long-term durability... however I have yet to see any problems and given the build quality I don't expect to. The lightweight fabric used has yet to snag, tear or stretch in any way... I was really rough on it my first time out and I was impressed that it still looked brand new after a couple of days being tossed/dragged/carried around in the woods. The little touches really added to my appreciation of this pack... things like the mesh side pockets on either side of the belt where I could carry my bandana and pocket knife, or the multiple access points so I could get to things in the middle or at the bottom of my pack without having to unload and reload everything constantly. Probably the only drawback is that it's so roomy that it could encourage you to overpack... I easily fit my sleeping bag and inflatable mat inside the bottom compartment and still fit my clothes, food, 3L Camelbak and a good amount of the group gear in the top with room to spare.
Overall I'd say it's worth every penny... so if you're looking to get into multi-day backpacking I would highly recommend this pack. Might be a bit expensive for someone just starting out, but look at it this way: you can end up losing a lot if your pack fails you part way through a trip... respect from your buddies if they end up having to pack out your gear for one.
If comfort is the issue go with the Gregory. No contest really. I have used Arc' Teryx, Gregory, Granite Gear, etc. and gregory was the most comfortable. Plus the options and features on the Greg are way better. Micro adjustments, entry points, construction, fit...i think it is all better.
By far the most comfortable pack I tried on, and I tried on many! 40 lbs at Yosemite was easy; thoughtful design for streamlined access and outside storage straps, pockets, and loops were all convenient, compact, even though I didn't truly appreciate them until I put them to use.
Looking for the Experts to compare the Baltoro with the Arcteryx Bora 65. I weigh about 145 lbs and expecting carry about 45 lbs. So comfort is the primary issue. Thanks.
In all honesty you can only learn so much from reading and looking at packs online. The best thing for you to do is to go to a good outdoor store (i got my baltoro at REI) and try on both of them, load them up with some weight walk around, go up and down the stairs and see which one feels best to you
I've carried about 45 lbs in the Baltoro on a trip to Glacier NP about a year and a half ago. Being 120 lbs myself, I will say that it was relatively comfortable for being over a third of my body weight. I try to go light when possible but if I need to carry a bit, Baltoro is my choice. The reason why I bought the Baltoro to begin with was because it was the most comfortable pack I had tried on that could carry that load. Of course, everyone is different.
I don't have experience with the Bora 65, but I can say that you'll be able to carry a larger load in the Baltoro simply because it has more capacity.
bought this pack last year. On the way back from our 1st w/e trip with my son I ended up off-loading everything my son's backpack on to my Baltoro except his sleepig bag, down jacket & water bottles. I think I had about 55+ lbs. on it. I was hurting a bit but my Baltoro held up Great!
just got back from a one night over 8000 vertical feet up and down and this pack performed amazing. It did a great job ventilating on my back and i really enjoyed the flexing hipbelt due to the difficult terrain. Plenty of extra room, stayed dry in a little rain and felt incredibly comfortable. the only complaint that i have is that the hibbelt pockets arent very big but thats minor to all the positives of this pack. Definitly worth the money
Loved the pack... unfortunately, so did some critter in the middle of the night on my last Fall pack trip! Chewed right through the zippers and all, rendering it basically unrepairable. Replaced it with the same pack! Love the pockets, accessibility, size, comfort (comfort is what sold me, to me well worth the extra pound or so in weight compared with "ultralight" packs). Only noticed that it seemed to make a little more noise on the hike than some other packs, could simply be my not cinching it all up at tight, but seems to be something more to do with the pivoting hip belt harness system??? Wish the hip belt pockets were just a tad bit larger... not much fits in them. Would definitely recommend the pack despite very minor criticisms. Just trying to be honest in assessment.
I know that I have male color blindness to some degree, but is this pack burnt orange or red? It is not remotely red to my eyes and certainly not cardinal red. I have checked three websites and they all look the same shade of orange to me. What gives?
What comfort. I just took my first short trip with this pack and I am very impressed. I loaded it up to about 30lbs with random stuff from around the house and off I went. About 3 1/2 miles up and down about 1200 vertical feet (pretty rugged at times) and the pack felt great. It took me about the first 15 minutes or so fiddling with straps and positions before I got it just right (keeping in mind this was our first trip together). Biggest thing..... size it properly and don't be affraid to vary from the "torso measurement" if you find that a size smaller or larger just feels good. I was sized for a medium but got a large and it feels perfect. Love this pack!!
Backpacks are not made to be locked. If someone really wants to get into a pack they will use a knife if you have a lock, unless you are worried about someone you are backpacking with then you shouldn't invite that person. I am not aware of a pack that can lock. For airline purposes, use a big duffle bag with a zipper lock.
This is more of a backpacking bag so security on this pack is not a huge concern. Your best bet would be to get zipper locks for the main compartments.
I have a medium Baltoro 70 and I have hiked around 12 miles in it so far. I love the pack but my only concern is that the load lifters aren't at a 45 degree angle they are at around a 10 degree angle (if that). I am 6' and weight around 160 lbs so the medium hip belt fits great. Should I be concerned about the angle of the load lifter? Should I try to get the large pack and swap out the hip belt? I'm just not exactly sure how this pack should feel on my back. Any help or advice you can give would be great.
I am about you same height and weight and use a L Baltoro with Medium hip belt. I wear a size 33 in the waist and 20" torso. Swapping out the hip belt really improved the comfort of the pack. I purchased my pack at a local rival gear shop of BC because I needed it ASAP, and they just swapped out the belts free of charge!!
My first question would be, have you re-attached the shoulder straps on the other setting? This helped me. Next, if the pack feels good then you are ok. Of course you back or neck will hurt a little after a 12 mile trek but if it is comfy, then you are good.
What an amazing piece of trail equipment! The body fit was fantastic, and the adjustable features very beneficial. Load capacity is perfect for long distance hiking. The very well designed sleeping bag compartment is convenient and easy to load/unload. I wound up folding a Therm-a-rest pad and storing it with the sleeping bag. The water bottle holder while easy to access and very secure never got in the way while hiking through rough terrain. The Baltoro 70 has few, if any, unnecessary features. Nice job Gregory!
I just bought this pack and got it in the mail. Construction Amazing. Water proof zipper uptop, quality fabrics, great padding on straps an hips harness.I think I got one too big for my torso. I got the larger volume because thats what one of the backcountry tech guys said the size correlated to. Even after I questioned does it mean the frame is larger, he said no. Wrong... So my question: If the harness is tight on my hips but the pad in the back is low and riding on my belt, should the shoulder harness have space above my should and then only touch along my neck line to my chest. How my should strap snugness is really needed?? Im about ready to just buy the size smaller and exchange my pack without any answers. I should have got fitted before I purchased. Love the pack and the price...hate the internet purchasing.
This is a great pack. My first Gregory. I've owned several Dakines and Mountain Hardware. Needed larger pack for 6 day Teton trip. Pack weighed approx. 48 lbs (including Nemo tent secured under top flap) and was carried for 46 miles. Very comfortable fit esp. with pivoting belt. Alot of handy pockets and access. Only complaint is no place to hook camelback. Had to fashion one out of wire. Pack was snowed on and rained on, but everything inside stayed dry. Belt pockets are small---compass size. Overall would highly recommend.
I like the looks of this pack. Is there any way to modify it so the top can convert into a daypack? This is the only feature lacking as far as I am concerned.
It comes off, but not without a lot of work. And it doesn't convert to a nice daypack either. So no, if a daypack is on your necessary features list, this one won't cut it. But it is a wonderful pack, and I would highly recommend it, from many personal experiences with it!
David's got on his New Gregory Baltoro leftside of picture and the next Trip I had me a New Baltoro thanks to the fast shipping of Backcountry.com Thank's Thomas
Great pack. Bought this for a trip in the Sierras as my old pack was a piece of crap. The pivoting belt works great and moves with you perfectly. It really made 40lbs feel more like 20lbs.All the pockets really help me keep all my thins organized and at the ready. I cant wait to take this to Alaska and back to the Sierras in the summer and find out more good things about it. Sure you can find less expensive packs, but really if you want quality you gotta pay for it and YOU CAN"T GO WRONG HERE!!
I think it depends on the woman. I haven't bought this pack yet, but I plan to for a trip I'm taking this summer. I tried this on and the Deva (amongst many others) and the men's packs all fit me better, while my friend definitely fit better in the women's.
My friend and I are in the Sipsey Wilderness in Alabama at a old home site! That's me Thomas with my packs on my backs and Steve looking in the back window. I like saying my packs on my backs an I are ready to Go!!
Full adjustability coupled with quality materials make this pack insanely comfortable. It makes loads feel like a fourth of their weight. I am beyond happy with this product. It is worth every penny. Best three day pack I have found.
You could probably strap them in with the compression straps, but the pack definitely isn't designed for skiing or carrying skis.________________________________________While this is a durable pack and definitely a great buy, if you are looking for a pack to carry skis I would advise against it.
Easily the best pack i've ever owned. From week long trips in the Tetons to a month stay in New Zealand, it has carried everything I've ever needed (sometimes upwards of 40lbs) and did it in an extremely comfortable fassion. The front pocket zips open like a duffel bag, so you don't have to unpack and repack just to find some socks. And i probably bought the pack just because of the hip belt pockets, so awesome.
i need a pack. the reviews sound good. i'm from hawai`i and there is one pack here that is possible. it's a mountain hardwear pack. i tried it on without any weight. the fit is good but the hip-belt feels like it may be a problem. please help.i keep referring back to this pack. is it worth it for me to take a chance and buy this online without trying it on?
Pack is highly adjustable. Should be no problem as long as you get the general sizing right (i.e. "small" "med." "large". Gregory has a sizing chart on-line, I believe, if you don't have the ability to get measured at a shop. You can do this yourself by using the torso length measurement. To find your torso length, measure your back along the spine from the the top point of your hipbones to the knobby bone at the base of your neck. This will give you a measurement in inches that will determine the correct pack size. I would use the aforementioned procedure & find your correct size.Also if it doesn't fit properly you can return it and get all your money back or exchange it. Backcountry.com's warranty is awesome.
Yes, it's water resistant. Treated with DWR (durable water repellant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durable_Water_Repellent) a coating that causes the water to bead up and roll off, but it's not a waterproof fabric, not seam-sealed...in a quick rain or little drizzle you'll be ok, but if it's really pouring you'll want to have a pack cover, which is the case with most packs. We could make a waterproof pack if you're willing to pay $900 for it...It's always best to use a rain cover. This will protect your pack contents & give you peace of mind.
This is a great pack. Cactus proof, and comfortable. I actually had to double pack when a member of our trip fell and got a concussion and though I wouldn't recommend it, I was able to pack carry about a 70lb load for a couple of miles to a water and a camp site... This pack stood up to whatever was dished its way...
I used this pack for a 10 mile hike to Havasupai Falls, Grand Canyon, and it was great. Held 45 lbs comfortably the whole way. Held snug to body and dispersed most weight to legs/hips. NO back stress at all. Looks cool, too. Highly recommended.
I am new to backpacking and on my first trip we went 14 miles and the pack felt great the whole way. I carried about 35lbs including my wife and I's tent, my sleeping bag, 2L of water in camel back, clothes, three 4 serving meals, snacks, and a lot of other stuff I didn't even use. There are plenty of pockets to store all of your nicknacks in. There are plenty of adjustments to get the perfect fit. I highly recommend this pack!
I bought this pack about a year ago, took on a 3 week hike in the winter. Held up pretty good. Lots of room for all my gear and I love all the outside pockets. The compression straps are great but the top one is pulling at the seams. Ending up in a downpour on a weekend trip with it, must say it is water resistent. Hardly any of my clothes got wet inside. Only downside to it is the hipbelt, I found it awkward and even uncomfortable at times. Other than that its a great bag! Exactly what I expected from it and more.
I bought this pack specifically for an 8 day trip in Glacier National Park - couldn't be happier. It was comfortable, held a heck of a lot of stuff (41 lbs at the start of the hike!) and was easy to adjust and has lots of nice pockets and nooks in it. I also use it for frequent weekend trips - good stuff.
I've backpacked 123 miles with this pack and it held up Great! No problems! Buy it! The Baltoro is a mix of the old Gregory forester and old whitney. Go for it! I did and I'm Loving it!! Bankhead Forest Rules !!
I decided myself for this backpack after reading all over the internet for backpacks around the same size and capacity, I was wonder the size of it, even I thought it was bigger, but actually the size is the right for my needs. I got this backpack for 3 month trip I'm about to start and feel comfortable taking with me, besides everything I wanna take with me fits amazing.
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