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You want your skin to feel like a smooth, glidy part of your ski when you go up, and to feel feather-light in your pack on the way down. Welcome to the Alpinist Climbing Skin.
Low-profile tip connector uses pivoting hands to fit securely on your ski tip and eliminate the extra weight and floppiness of fold-over designs
Laminated tail uses G3 tail connection system for less drag
Advanced waterproofing treatment prevents clumping when you move through multiple climate zones
Temperature-tolerant adhesive won’t flake-out and loose stick when it gets cold
RipStrip makes it easy to pull off the ski and reduces skin-to-skin sticking
I have toured these skins in everything from cold clear December days in Roger's Pass (-20 C), standard cloudy powder days somewhere in the -10 range, to t-shirt soaking Southern CA corn harvests (+20?) and they hold me like glue. They glide and grab extremely well, and stay clump free - I have never had any problems. Though I do agree with one gripe that they stick to themselves extremely readily since they are thin compared to BD skins - but it's not so bad that it has ever been frustrating. Cutting and fitting is a breeze, as with any skins. The tip attachment is bomber, I thought it might turn out to be finnicky in the BC but it has never come even close to slipping off. Now slap em on, and earn those turns!
I would go long. That would give you some allowance for use with another ski, potentially. I'd also suggest looking at Black Diamond skins or climbingskinsdirect.com, as I think both those are much better skins. I think the G3 skins are pretty crumby, floppy, harder to use, and don't last as long. Climbingskinsdirect.com makes really high quality skins, and they cost about 2/3 the price of G3 or BD, although I think BD's are on sale right now. Both BD and climbingskinsdirect give better options and versatility for ski length. Hope that helps! Whichever you choose, happy climbs, and happy turns!
I have a pair of G3 alpinist skins, and a pair of BD clipfix skins. I by far prefer the BD skins. They're stiff and easy to use in the cold. G3 skins are just too floppy. They both stick well, and I like G3's tip attachments, but what I want in a set of skins is quick, easy use. The BD skins will come right apart when I'm putting them on, and slip right off when I'm ready for the down. The stiffness of the BD skins increases the ease of use at the top of the hill when folding them together; I've not been able to get the G3 skins to stick together evenly easily at all- it's a fight. If you're like me at the top of the hill, you just want to peel 'em and squeel 'em. Fighting your skins at the top of the hill before a run, is no fun at all.
I am hoping to do just a small amount of uphill climbing for an Alpine Run (50 yards - Catherines Way access- Alta Utah), maybe more if I get into it. Would Alpine Climbing skins be what I need? Thanks Zane
Most of the time it's easiest to side-step or boot pack a short hike like that. You would spend more time getting your skins on and off then you would just going going for it sans skins. If you do decide to get into touring and doing some bigger ascents, go for the Black Diamond skins. The BD skins are a lot better.
These skins have a really nice and sleek low-profile front attachment. The rear attachment is pretty good, but not quite as secure as the BD rear attachment. The precut dimensions are really nice and make trimming a breeze. The skins seem to get good traction in semi-soft snow, not sure about harder conditions. They skins are nice just not quite as durable as the BD's.
Hi. I need some help picking out some skins. I am buying them for my boyfriend. Since I am a snowboarder I do not know what I need. I may need to find more info off of his ski's as well. I know his skis are 181 liberties. But Im not sure what they are under foot. What information do I need before buying? And once I have the info. what should I be looking for?? Please help!
For 181's a size Medium should work (171 - 181cm).
Then it will come down to width. These are made in 70, 85, 100, 115, 130 and 140mm widths. For the best fit, measure the ski at its widest point; this will be near the tip. Or, if you know what ski it is, these dimensions will be posted.
Pick the skin width closest to this spec and then trim to fit. ie: A ski measuring 129mm at the tip should use a 130mm skin.
I have older style G3 skins now and love them, but they are getting near to needing replacement. How do the tip clip things compare reliability wise? Have folks found these to stay on well?
This is my first AT skin, I was slightly nervous about having to trim the skins by hand ect... Relax it is a piece of cake! Attaching the skin to the ski is easy as well. Just be sure you're in a clean area when trimming or anytime your skin's glue is exposed (VERY STICKY STUFF). Skinning up a mountain adds a whole new demension to skiing! I will keep you posted on their durability.
I got the 115mm for my K2 Obsethed, which are 138-105-125 and they work out great, even though I'm missing some coverage on my tip and tail. As Matthew said above, you'll just have to get it trimmed in the middle (trimmer comes with the skins) and they'll fit on your skis almost perfect, with good coverage on the tip and tail. Have fun, these skins are awesome!
I guess I am old school, but I alway size for the waist of the ski. I hate when I fold them up and I get glue sticking everywhere. That said, I would probably aim for 100 wide to minimize that issue. I agree with Matthew that the tip does not get you much traction anyway.
When sizing up a skin for a ski you want as much coverage as possible. With that being said, we're working in millimeters, a very small measurement, and most of the traction you get when skinning up comes from the last 3/4 of the ski. The tip really doesn't help generate any traction. A 115 skin will obviously get you great coverage underfoot, and in the tail, you'll have 2 mm on either side of the skin, which is basically the thickness of the edge, and material you would have trimmed away anyway if you were cutting the skin to size. And in the front, you will end up about 5 mm on either side, hardly a large amount.
It appears that by getting the 115, you end up with an almost perfectly fitted skin without having to do any trimming except in the middle part of the ski to fit the waist. If you went for the next size up, you would be spending more money and cutting away a lot of material. The 115 is the perfect size. Go for it.
Here is g3's guide for choosing a skin. You will see the 115 fits in perfectly for the size ski you will be using: http://www.genuineguidegear.com/service/g3-learning-centre/skins
Pretty good skin. First skin, Wasn't a fan of the tail clip, so I just chopped it off to save weight. Wore out fast in my opinion but as I said they were my first skin. Had trouble with snow sticking to bottom, so make sure to pick up some skin wax. Adhesive also wore off pretty quickly.
Tricky the mediums range from 171-181 and the Large 180-190. I think you would be able to get away with the Medium you will have some tail showing on your larger skis but that should matter since they are twin tipped and the tail doesn't even hit the snow.
I found these skins fine when breaking trail in powder but on steep,packed down switch backs I lost traction a would slide backwards,where my buddies with BD skins had no issues.I personally wouldn't buy them again.
I've a pair of last (08/09) season's Alpinist skins. I bought them to go on a pair of Fat-ypus D-Sender skis, and found that the tail clip wouldn't stay on the full twin-tip tail.
Have G3 changed the design of the tail clip this season? If not, then I would avoid these for twin tips. I found that the BD tail clip worked much better.
yes. The trim tool these come with is incredible. I saved it and was more a fan of the BD attachment method, but when I bought their skins their trim tool sucked. Save this tool for use with other pairs of skins. Great great tool for DIY
I am 5'6'' 140lbs and have 174cm K2 Coombas (135-102-121) and I am looking at these G3 skins. Is it worth getting 130ish skins and trim them to cover the base wall to wall or should I go with a skin around 100mm that covers the base under foot. I do not want a boat to drag up hill, but at the same time want enough coverage not to slide back. Any thoughts?
Get the skins that fit the widest part of your ski (except for some extreme fatties) and then trim down to the waist. You'll appreciate the extra coverage.
Dustin, these skins have a set length bracket since there's no folding through a tip loop to adjust for your skis; that's why they come in S, M, L etc.
Pick up the xShort length. Get a width that is close to the widest part of your ski, then open a beer. Trim the width with the included Skin Cutter. It's super easy.
you buy skins based on the width of your skis not really the length as the skins are cut to fit the length of the ski by you. You can either measure the tip of your ski and buy skins that wide or measure the middle of the ski and buy that width. If you buy skins based on the middle width you won't have full coverage and may slip in icy conditions. I always buy skins based on my tip width.
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