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From pre-work dawn-patrol runs to all-day backcountry tours, the Black Diamond Outlaw Pack brings along all the gear you need for a successful day of riding. This Black Diamond pack caries skis or a snowboard, so you can use it no matter your ride of choice. The Outlaw Pack also holds enough food and clothing for an all-day tour, and it includes an insulated hydration sleeve to keep your water from turning to ice. While it's not loaded with fancy features, this backcountry ski pack does include a padded goggle pocket and a hip-belt pocket to keep your point-and-shoot camera handy.
Yeah. Take the Avalund component out of the Avalung harness. Put the mouthpiece through the hydration sleeve. Attach the rest inside the pack to keep it out of the way of your other gear. Check out the Avalung version of the pack to get a better idea of how you could better incorporate the Avalung into the pack. Or, as captain obvious (Angus B) suggested, you can wear it under the pack. That's what I do with my Dakine Heli Pro, and it's just a matter of not setting down the mouthpiece in the snow when you're changing layers.
This is where your hydration tube goes into the sleeve on the right shoulder. Not a great pic, but you can see it to the right of the orange. Also there is the orange gear loop thinger, whatever it is called, which is good for clipping either gear for, or the hanging hook of your bladder to keep it from moving around too much. One of the aluminum stays is also visible.
Pretty well designed and laid out avi gear pocket. The compression straps on the side of the bag do not inhibit access to your gear. Room for any BD shovel, probe and snow saw. You can just catch a glimpse of the adjustment for the diagonal carry loop in the bottom left corner, found inside the pocket.
This is an awesome pack. It has the nice sturdy internal frame to keep the back panel ridged, and you can clip things to it if you need to. The hydration pocket is right on the back panel access flap, meaning you can refill your bladder without emptying your pack. The goggle pocket is nice and plush, so you can leave your goggles in there without a micro bag if you really wanted to. The insulated sleeve is a good touch, keeps that H2O flowin'. The hip belt pockets are a sweet addition too, keeping a bar or multi-tool or camera always at the ready. The ski carry system works very well, in both positions, and even holds my 179 K2 ObSETHed with no problems. The sternum strap has a built in whistle, just for the icing on top!
There's no sizing for the outlaw on the sizing chart. What size should I get if my torso is 22-23 in? I have a s/m covert that fits fine, yet according to this sizing chart I should have an XL???
http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/mountain/packs/outlaw is the bd website and sizing recommendations for the Outlaw. The ski pack line is pretty consistent with its size ranges...so if you like how the covert fits, go with that for the Outlaw.
Slide the skis through the large bottom compression straps, and clip the smaller top straps under the toe piece of the binding. Use a ski strap to keep the tips together, and voila.
Def a sweet pack. I needed something to take with me for my vaca to Utah this winter, and my treck up Tuckerman's Ravine on Mt. Washington. The packs straps tuck away nicely, the locking clips on the top hold pretty well. The pack is big enough to hold all of your gear. I can fit my jacket and pants along with the rest of my gear in it. The goggle pocket is very plush, but I'll still keep my goggles in their sock, just cause I'm neurotic. My only complaint is the bladder pocket. A 100oz and 70oz CamelBak bladder are too big so for long days on the hill your gonna have to just let your bladder hang inside the pack. The skis mount very securely in the A-Frame position, and are balanced well. Im just not sure how much total weight this pack can take. When I strapped my boots to the pack it felt like that was just a little to much. All in all this is a really sweet pack and just what i was looking for.
There is a grey strap in the back that is included that you can wrap around the top of the ski, and through one of the black loops on the top of the pack, and slide the tips through the diagonal carry loop. That is if you like diagonal carry. If you prefer a-frame, the side straps work great, just like any other a-frame carry pack. But the "bat-wings" as you call them, are mostly designed for snowboards, not really secure for skis.
This is how the diagonal carry of this pack works. It can hold any ski I have ever used, no matter how heavy the rig. The tails go through the loop at the bottom, and then the top snowboard carry strap is used to hold down the top of the skis. If you want added security, clip the included grey strap to one of the loops on the top of the pack, wrap around your skis, and clip to the other loop.
Shane, what is the benefit of the frame - just for carrying a lot of weight? I'm not worried about the cost so much - just want to buy the right one the first time.
The frame helps to stabilize the load, making ski carry easier, and it also distributes the load you are carrying. Makes everything just a little easier to carry, but is not totally necessary. My loads are usually around 20 pounds, maybe a little less depending on conditions, and I don't really notice the frame. It bends around though, so it fits my back really nice.
Question - I'm considering a Black Diamond Covert Pack or a Black Diamond Outlaw - what is the difference and is it worth spending the extra $ for the Outlaw?
The Outlaw has an internal frame, and has a longer, closer to the body fit. The Covert sticks out more, and also has an ice ax carry. The Covert weights a little bit less than the Outlaw (both in the 32L). Not a big deal. I personally love the ride the Outlaw has on my shoulders, and how it packs gear, but I am also a fan of the Covert. There really isn't a huge difference that I know of, except for the internal frame. Up to you, but if the frame isn't a necessity, save the money and the weight and get the Covert.
I'm pretty sure you could fit them in there with some room left over for gloves and other gear. The length of the pack is 18.5-21.5 inches and the width is about 12-13 inches wide. I'm not 100% sure on that width dimension though. Hope that helps.
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