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The Black Diamond ATC-XP is a true variable-friction belay and rappel device with wicked holding power. With the ATC-XP, a climber can control how much friction they want while belaying or rapping, which in turn means greater control with multiple rope diameters. Ice climbing with an 8.1mm rope? Use the ATC-XP in high friction mode, pulling the rope over its contoured teeth. Rappelling with a fuzzy 11mm down a granite slab? Use the device in regular friction mode. An extended central web keeps 'biners and ropes properly oriented and reduces kinking. This Black Diamond belay device is such a favorite among climbers that it won the Climbing Magazine Editor's Choice Award. *Assorted colors.
Bottom Line: Black Diamond has made an essential piece of climbing gear essentially better.
If you're a lightweight like me, you'll feel safe when belaying a person twice your size thanks to the teeth... Much more grab then the standard Atc. Flip it around and you can have a smooth repel down!
I have been using a GriGri for years while belaying sport routes, but am now stoked on the XP for a few reasons. It's light, really easy to thread, and the high friction mode makes controlling during lowers or rappels super easy. Love it!
Love it - so much more holding power then a standard type belay device. I especially like it when there is a weight difference between belayer and climber. I notice when ice climbing and if the rope gets a little frozen, it does make for a little bit more of a jerky ride, but even with this, it is confidence instilling that not only will you catch a fall with your bulky gloves, but you will be caught as well. The new standard - from the gym to the crag.
And when you want less friction - turn it around. Ladies and Gents - we have a winner. The guide model is cool as well if you have a need - this is a good supplement and is a few bucks cheaper for your backup if you have a need for carrying 2 devices - errgh - twisted ropes, munter hitch / carabiner make-do belay device...
excellent all purpose belay/rappel device. Here it is at the start of the second pitch of "bedtime for bonzo (5.6+) a fun 2 pitch trad route that tops out to one of the best views in the Red River Gorge.
I like my XP just fine, it works just like it is suppose to. But after I bought it I read an article that said the longer friction channel and sharper V shape of the BD ATC builds more heat from friction and is harder on your rope's sheath then others like the Reverso 3 which has half the channel length and a more rounded trough.
is a grigri a a better choice for sport climbing than atc xp? i know its auto locking but is it really worth extra bucks for sport? already own an xp wondering if i should upgrade to grigri thanks
I'd still disagree with jbaysurfer...I wouldn't trust a grigri in the hands of a new belayer any more than an ATC. Many believe the grigri promotes complacency in new, as well as experienced belayers.
Hey Eric, maybe it's popular for top roping without a backup belayer? It's not such a mystery afterall! I know when I have a new belayer I appreciate the autolocking function!
That said, if you're alpine/ice climbing or glacier walking, the thinner rope you're probably using is very manageable with this device! So this device and the grigri have different applications, choose the appropriate device for your purposes!
I agree. the grigri can be good for being the belay whore for newbies but for sport its not ultra fun messing with. this locker on the xp is perfect for a good solid lock down and is way easy to use.
stick with the XP. feeding rope through the gri-gri to your leader is a hassle, and m,y XP has done everything i've ever needed it to while sport climbing.(Eric) I agree that the grigri is a waste of money for sport climbing. I actually find it a nuissance for most applications...but its popularity implies a usefulness somewhere.
The ATC-XP works great and makes belaying easy with the high friction side, but also allows for a smooth rappel with the low friction side. I have had it for a year and a half now and it is still going great.
I love the old ATC, but I love the ATC-XP better. You get the same ease of use and simple utility with the added benefit of extra holding power when needed. If weight's not an issue, I would spend the extra $4 on the ATC Guide for its added functionality.
I used a rope that I believe was 11 mm and on a double rope rap it was slow to feed, but worked. A 100 pound gal with us had to feed it through to get down. I just measured the actual slots and there are two slots about 14.5 mm across the narrow axis and 30 mm on the long axis. So it a 12 mm rope would fit, it just might be stiff to work it through.
super smooth to feed rope through and locks down a fall like no one's business. this little piece of gear is extremely versatile and pretty lightweight. an excellent device to have on just about any climbing rack. belay w/one or two ropes, rappel with one or two ropes, regular or high friction mode, there are plenty of options to suite almost any situation.
Long-lasting and efficient. Double mouths and teeth provide control. This is my go-to belay device unless rope-soloing or big-wall. Perfect for sport and multi-pitch trad.
This is such a great improvement from the original ATC. The teeth and the v-shaped rim really help take pressure from your arms, hands, and minds. It's great for rappelling and belaying, and it is very light and simple, and also inexpensive.
I love how much control i have with this lightweight ATC. the teeth are great for belaying and grips a variety of rope sizes very well. I have had it for a year now and the teeth are a little worn out but it still out performs regular a regular ATC off the shelf.
a grigri automatically locks you out. you need to physically pull back the little swingarm to allow the climber slack. this device allows you to do that with arm placement. no moving parts in it, just the rope through it.
This is a great belay device. The teeth make it super easy to belay larger climber if needed. It also is great running to ropes through for ice and alpine climbs.
We all know the ATC. We probably all have one or have owned one at some point. How can BD possibly improve on such a classic, clean, simple, lightweight and proven design? They add teeth. I was skeptical about the ATC-XP at first, but I am a believer now. It's basically the same trusted feel of the regular ATC but when you want to use them, the teeth are a worthy feature. Skinny double rope rappels won't cause your palms to heat up like a burner plate anymore. And it's still lightweight, compact, and of course bombproof. Pick one up.
Offers more friction and stopping power than the standard ATC. Works better with fatter, knackered ropes at the indoor wall than the ATC-Guide. Much lighter than the grigri.
Can be used indoors or outdoors, for trad or sports climbing.
Just as solid as the standard ATC, the ATC XP is great for weaker belayers, for more control, or for lazy belays. Repels and belays just as well as the standard ATC. Bomber.
I use a 10.3mm rope for rock climbing and the ATC-XP works great with it. The high friction side is great for belay, however not for rappel; it's a little bit too much friction and sometimes you have to feed the rope when you're beginning the descent at the top of the route. But that's why this ATC has a low friction side and it performs really good too. Definitely recommended.
This ATC is very solid, feels very durable and safe. 10+mm ropes go through easily and the teeth are a nice added friction when rappelling or belaying someone down. On the other hand, it's a bit big compared to the others.
Never be without this great piece of equip from BD. I always use the high friction side when belaying for extra safety and conserving energy. Yep belaying can get tiring sometimes. All my friends have this piece. Get it here. Backcountry.com will treat you well.
On pictures it may look a little fragile, or weak, but when you have it on your biner, you change your mind. While belaying you don´t worry of your partner, because it holds falls great. While rappelling you can control your descent great. Highly recommended.
This is my first belaying device. I read other reviews on this device and it works just as they say. Works excellent for me and if I loose it, I will buy it again. I like the control it gives and I haven't experienced rope problems when using it. If you haven't got one, buy it!
I have used this device for about a year. It is better than a figure-eight device because it doesn't twist the rope. The high friction mode slows the rappel to make it safer, and when used to belay I fell it stops the fall faster. The price seems okay and it is light and easy to use. Durable. I found the workmanship somewhat wanting: Not polished. But the function is superior.
Have used this only once (I just received it recently) and it works great. The 'teeth' that are sculpted into the steel work great in two settings - high friction and standard - both hold the weight of the climber without putting too much strain on the belayer.
I have a whole bunch of models of rappelling baskets, and the Black Diamond ATC-XP is the best and most comfortable to use. Don't waste your time and get the best. This is it. Migs
The ATC-XP locks very quickly and holds strong with several types of rope. Gym ropes that are thick (11mm), sometimes make for a bumpy belay. The belay on smaller diameter ropes offers an astoundingly smooth belay.
I bought one of these and I liked it, but it is a little hard to get the rope in the teeth, unlike the ATC. With the ATC you can put the rope to the side, at any place and it stops the fall. With the ATC-XP you have to get it in those little teeth. Now you can flip it around and use it the other way, but whats the point of getting the ATC-XP. If you are just starting out, this is a good item, it will give you a little edge. If you are not just starting out, and you are exploring new stuff, I prefer the ATC because I like the simplicity much better.
I have used the older BD ATC device, and a Trango device, and have found that this is the best of the three. When rappelling, the teeth on the device make controlling speed relatively easy.
This variable Friction belay device is great. It gives you a little more control and makes belaying easier than the regular ATC in high friction mode. However if you do not want high friction just turn it around and it is like the regular ATC. Great product. Recommend buying it if you do a lot of belaying.
I am a beginner to repelling so I don't know too much about the sport. I bought the ATC-XP because it was the best price I found. I have used it a couple of times and so far it has worked great.
At first I thought the teeth might just a gimmick to charge a little more for a fancy-looking ATC, but I thought I'd try it out. My climbing partners have about 60 lbs on me (I'm 5'3"/120) and I thought something that would increase the friction when I lock-off would be great. This ATC really delivered! Of course other Black Diamond ATCs don't slip when you lock-off correctly, but this one holds just as much without having to try as hard to maintain a steep angle, which can be tiring if you're using it all day. Better to save your energy for the climb. And for the times I belay someone more than my size I just flip it and use the regular friction side.
This ATC is like most other ATC's you'll find on the market. The added friction comes in handy for abseiling, and belaying otherwise like all other ATC's, it does what it's suppose to do. If it didn't, I wouldn't be writing this right now.
I ordered all the basic climbing gear for my sister. She is a beginner climber and loves her new gear. The harness runs a little small, I had read this in a review and ordered a size larger for her so it fit fine. The staff in customer service was helpful with replying promptly to a question I had with my order. I was very pleased with the whole ordering process.
The XP is a great device, the only problem that I have had is there being too much friction through using the teeth. This does not occur all the time but when you first use the extra friction side you will immediately notice a difference versus a normal ATC. Rapelling is very safe and secure. Great device, and I have been happy with it. It belays and rappels well with all rope diameters.
I have used a few different belay devices, but I enjoy this one the most. It has low friction until you put it in the break position and requires minimal tension to remain in the break position. My partner has taken some hefty whippers and this stops any extra slack being fed to him.
The ATC XP is just plain awesome. There's not much more to say than that. Thread it in high friction mode if your friends plan on hanging out on the wall for a while to give your hands and arms a break. If they're just running some quick routes and you're not going to have to hold anyone up for an hour you can use it just like a regular ATC. It doesn't get much simpler or more effective than that.
I upgraded my old and worn ATC's to the BD ATC-XP. These ATC's are soo smooth. I use the friction side for self-repels and heavier climbers; I use the regular side for the average climber. The friction side gives me so much control. Used with a 10.2mm and a 9.4mm rope with no problems.
Yes, the high friction mode is nice when repelling or dealing with a load, but these teeth do hangup rope-feed when belaying; Either way I flipped this device I always felt more drag than the classic ATC design.
I purchased the XP because for some reason i just cant seem to get enough control with the ATC. What i really like about the XP is that if you have 2 climbers who like different styles of belay devices, each climber can use whatever side of the XP that they like, wether its the friction side or the smooth side. I prefer the friction side that seems to give you so much more control and piece of mind when belaying. Excellent product and design. Recommended for belayers who prefer maximum friction... that sounds dirty.
I'm new at outdoor climbing and my first time out I used a black diamond ATC and my shoulder was sore the next day. With the XP I have no problems and the grooves make belaying a breeze.
With its smooth, low-friction side, the V-shaped high-friction side, and an extended central web that keeps biners and ropes oriented, the Black Diamond ATC-XP is another exemplary piece of BD gear.
I use an atc xp and would recommend upgrading to a Guide xp It's the same belay device just with more options one day you might want the auto lock feature. The teeth are great for double ropes that are smaller in size.
The Black Diamond ATC-XP is easily my favorite ATC. The high friction mode helps a lot especially when belaying someone who weighs more than you. I also love it for its versatility in rappelling. The high friction mode gives you security on those long rappells but filp it around and have fun soaring down those others with a little more speed. It is the best ATC for the all around climber/canyoneer.
As a beginning climber, I feel so much more confident belaying using the Black Diamond ATC-XP. The 'high friction mode' (pulling the rope over its contoured teeth) makes a big difference in control belaying a heavier partner. Plus it is so easy to use.
As a novice climber, I love the friction on this rope. I seem to always be belaying someone heavier than me, and this gives me the control I need to feel confident doing so.
I still have to convince my wife that ATC is a clever name .... but its good to know that she can have the extra friction as a beginning climber. I have been climbing 15 years and love this device as well. If you are looking at getting just one belay device- this is it!
usually climb with people who are heavier than me, and the little teeth on the end are wonderful. they provide more control, and i'm less prone to rope burn.
Takes the shortcomings of many devices on the market and improves on them. Even my novice Nephews find it simple to use. (Supervised of Course) Never used the low friction side before though, never needed to yet. Must admit heat buildup is significant compared to other tube devices but the dissipation is really quick so thats good.
The slow descent really does make a great controlled descent that allows you to feel in control. I've caught several big falls on it so far and its working great. Def. would recommend for price and quality.
This is a good belay device. However, I have found that it tends to blacken the rope faster than other belay devices, particularly than the block belay devices, like the classic ATC and others. It's a great device other than that.
This biner has great friction locks. You can repel someone twice your weight almost without holding the rope down! Allows great control over the rope. Highly recommended!
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