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Black Diamond Havoc Ski

Whether you’re attacking a dawn patrol tour, free heeling down your favorite bowl or looking for a ski to rip the whole resort with, the Black Diamond Havoc Ski will keep that pow-swallowing grin on your face all day long. The Havoc loves to make turns through uber technical terrain and lay waste to high altitude powder fields after you get to the top of the skin.

3D CNC poplar core provides years of life for your ski without too much extra weight
Dual Torsion Bow Technology packs a progressive flex and hearty snap
Integrated 3D dampening keeps your ride from rattling your teeth

Bottom Line: The snowpack will cower before you.

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I have these skis and am looking for bindings. Would 90mm breaks

I have these skis and am looking for bindings. Would 90mm breaks work on an 88mm wide ski? or should I bump up to 100mm breaks.

By: sco3405996
November 12, 2009

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Get the 90mm brakes. They should work fine, but if you feel you need a little more you can just bend them a little.

By: Bryan Vernetson
November 12, 2009

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You probably don't know how much you want this ski

By: samski
October 28, 2009

If you're more into ripping than slogging, this ski is probably for you. It's light but stiff, it floats through pow but holds an edge. It kind of a paradox with metal edges ( I was fortunate enough that in the three years I have owned these bad boys I barely ever needed to actually sharpen them though). It doesn't seem like much has really changed on the ski so this review is probably still valid.

I skied Alta fluff, Northwest cement, and Mt. Shasta corn and loved every turn on these guys. I'm 5'10 180lbs and skied the 173 which was perfect for tight trees and anything less than thigh deep. Last year when we got 50 inches in a day at Portillo I decided I needed a longer, fatter ski so I ended up getting the Verdicts too. Remember, its a fairly stiff ski for a backcountry ski so don't try to bite off more than you can handle. When in doubt I would say go smaller. Smaller = lighter and more manageable with a softer touring boot.

So, the bottom line is, if you're looking for a midfat to add to your quiver, your first touring ski, or your one ski to do it all, you probably want the Havoc.

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1 Comment Last Comment: 6 days ago by: richardhal1088280

By: richardhal1088280
6 days ago

Samski, What year are your Havocs? Two years ago Black Diamond went to a wood core and the feel of the ski completely changed. This year the ski is 15% softer then last years. The ski has actually changed a lot in the last three years.

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						<span class="edit_img_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.inactivate_cpi_submit_onclick(this, '${id}');"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Delete Photo</a></span>
						<span class="improve_link" onclick="window.location='https://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/cpi_edit/BLD0454.html?image_id=${id}';"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Tweak This</a></span>
					{/if}
					<span class="zoom_link" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();BCNTRY.product_wall_image_zoom(this.parentNode.parentNode)"><a class="cpi_zoom" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="return false;">Zoom</a></span>
				</p>
			</div>
			{if message}<div class="cpi_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
			<div class="error_message"></div>
		</div> 
	 	<div class="cpi_right">
			<div class="the_comments">
				{if comment.comment_count > 0}
					<p class="cpi_options">
						<div class="comment_summary" id=${comment.comment_count}>
							  <h4 class="thread_info">
								  <a href="#" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.toggle_comments_onclick(this, 'cpi', '${id}');return false;" class="comments_toggler">${comment.comment_count} {if comment.comment_count == 1} Comment {else} Comments {/if}</a> 
								  Last Comment: <span class="cpi_date">${comment.latest_comment_submit_dt}</span>
								  by: <a class="user_profile_link"  href="${comment.profile_url}">${comment.latest_comment_user_display_name}</a>
							  </h4>
						 </div>
						 <div class="threaded_comments_cpi"></div>
					</p>
				{/if}
				<div class="error_message"></div>
				{if comment.solicit_comment_display == 'normal'}
					<div class="inline_solicitation">
					  <div class="comment_container">
							<form class="provide_comment_form" name="comment_cpi" method="POST" enctype="multipart/form-data" action="https://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/cpicomment/BLD0454/${id}" >
								<input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${id}" />
								<input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="cpi" />
								<div class="error_message"></div>
								<div class="textarea_container"> 
									<textarea class="comment_content" name="comment_content" onkeyup="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.comment_content_onkeyup(this.form)" onfocus="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.comment_content_onfocus(this.form)">Write your comment here...</textarea>
									<input type="hidden" name="comment_content_default" value="Write your comment here..." /> 
								</div> 
								<input type="image" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/buttons/comment_it.gif" alt="Submit Comment"  class="answer_it_button" /> 
								<span class="comment_chars"></span>
							</form>
						</div> 
					</div>
				{elseif comment.solicit_comment_display == 'collapsed'}
					<div id="comment_solicit" class="comment_solicit">
						<p><a href="http://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/cpicomment/BLD0454/" rel="nofollow">Comment on ${user.display_name}'s photo ></a></p>
					</div>
				{/if}
		 	</div> 
		 	<div class="error_message"></div>
		</div> 
	{elseif display == 'flagged'}
		<div class="cpi_item">
			<div class="cpi_text">
				<p class="user_flagged_text">
					<span onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_cpi_show_onclick(this, '${id}')">
						<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">${flagged_description}</a>
					</span>
				</p>
			</div>
			{if message}<div class="cpi_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
		</div>
	{/if}

<div class="flag_container">
		<form class="flag_as_offensive" method="post" onsubmit="return false;" action="#">
			{if content_type == 'comment'}
				<input type="hidden" name="comment_id" value="${comment_id}"/>
			{else}
				{if content_type == 'answer'}
					<input type="hidden" name="question_id" value="${question_id}"/>
				{else}
					<input type="hidden" name="question_id" value="${content_id}"/>
				{/if}
				
				<input type="hidden" name="answer_id" value="${content_id}"/>
				<input type="hidden" name="cpi_id"    value="${content_id}"/>
				<input type="hidden" name="review_id" value="${content_id}"/>
			{/if}
			<span class="flag_close" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.close_dialog_onclick(this)"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/pdp/flag_close.gif" alt="Close the flagging form" class="flag_close"/></a></span>

<h4>Something rub you the wrong way?</h4>
			<p>Thanks for pointing it out. We'll send it immediately to our clean up crew. If you don't mind pointing us in the right direction...</p>
			<div class="error_message"></div>
			<p>
				This post was:
				<input type="text" name="flag_description" />
				(Optional)
			</p>
			<div class="clearb"></div>
			{if is_from_carousel}
				<input class="save_answer_button" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_carousel_${content_type}_submit_onclick(this.form)" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/buttons/save_qa.gif" type="image" />
			{else}
				<input class="save_answer_button" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_${content_type}_submit_onclick(this.form)" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/buttons/save_qa.gif" type="image" />
			{/if}
		</form>
	</div>

<div class="review" id="review_${review_id}">
		<div>
			{if image_url_small}
				<div class="content_image">
                    <a class="cpi_zoom" rel="nofollow" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();return hs.expand(this);">
						${image_el_small}
					</a>
					<span class="zoom_link" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();return BCNTRY.product_wall_image_zoom(this)"><a class="cpi_zoom" rel="nofollow" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="return false;">Zoom</a></span>
					</a>
				</div>
			{/if}
			${review_rank_img}
			<h3><a href="${review_link}">${title}</a></h3>
            <p>By: <a class="user_profile_link" href="${review_profile_link}"> ${review_display_name} </a>
                   <a class="user_profile_link" href="${review_profile_link}"><img class="minipro_icon" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/profile/minipro_icon.gif" alt="" /></a>
				   {if user.badges}
					   	{for badge in user.badges}
							${badge.image_el}
						{/for}
					{/if}
                <br/><span class="review_date">${review_date}</span></p>			
            <div class="review_text">
            <p>${review_comments}</p>
            </div>
            <form class="helpfulness_form">
                <input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="review" />
                <input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${review_id}" />
                <input type="hidden" name="is_helpful" value="" />
                <p>
                    Was this helpful?
                    ${helpful_html}
                </p>
				<p class="review_options">
					<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_review_onclick(this, '${review_id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Flag</a></span>
       	               <span class="improve_link" onclick="window.location='${editReviewURL}'">
              		       	<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Tweak This</a>
       	       	       </span>
     					<span class="edit_img_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.inactivate_review_submit_onclick(this, '${review_id}')">
				   		<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Delete Review</a>
					</span>
				</p>
				<div class="confirmation">Thanks for the review, ${review_display_name}.</div>
           </form>
		</div>
	</div>

{if display == 'normal'}
		<input type="hidden" id="review_${review_id}_title" value="${title}" />
		<input type="hidden" id="review_${review_id}_rank" value="${rank}" />
		<input type="hidden" id="review_${review_id}_body" value="${body}" />
		<input type="hidden" id="review_${review_id}_img_url" value="${image_url_small}" />
		${rank_image}
		<div class="review_item">
			{if image_url_small}
				<div class="content_image">
                    <a class="cpi_zoom" rel="nofollow" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();return hs.expand(this);">
						${image_el_small}
					</a>
					<span class="zoom_link" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();return BCNTRY.product_wall_image_zoom(this)"><a class="cpi_zoom" rel="nofollow" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="return false;">Zoom</a></span>
					</a>
				</div>
			{/if}
			<div class="content_right{if ! image_url_small} expanded{/if}">
				<h3><a href="${review_link}">${title}</a></h3>
				<p>By: <a class="user_profile_link" href="${user.profile_url}">${user.display_name}</a> 
					<a class="user_profile_link" href="${user.profile_url}"><img class="minipro_icon" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/profile/minipro_icon.gif" alt="" /></a>
					{if user.badges}
						{for badge in user.badges}
							${badge.image_el}
						{/for}
					{/if}
					<br /><span class="review_date">${date}</span>
				</p>
				<div class="review_text"><p>${body}</p></div>

<form class="helpfulness_form">
						<input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="review" />
						<input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${review_id}" />
						<input type="hidden" name="is_helpful" value="" />
					<p>
						Was this helpful?
						${helpful_html}
					</p>
				</form>
				<p class="review_options">
					{if flagged}
						<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.unflag_review_onclick(this, '${review_id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Un-Flag</a></span>
					{else}
						<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_review_onclick(this, '${review_id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Flag</a></span>
					{/if}

{if owned_by_current_user}
							<span class="improve_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.edit_review_onclick(this, ${review_id})">
								<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Tweak This</a>
							</span>
							<span class="edit_img_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.inactivate_review_submit_onclick(this, '${review_id}')">
							<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Delete Review</a>
						</span>
					{/if}
				</p>
			{if message}<div class="review_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
			<div class="error_message"></div>
		</div>
		</div> 
		<div class="the_comments">
		{if comment.comment_count > 0}
			<div class="comment_summary" id=${comment.comment_count}>
				  <h4 class="thread_info">
					  <a href="#" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.toggle_comments_onclick(this, 'review', '${review_id}');return false;" class="comments_toggler">${comment.comment_count} {if comment.comment_count == 1} Comment {else} Comments {/if}</a> 
					  Last Comment: <span class="review_date">${comment.latest_comment_submit_dt}</span>  
					  by: <a class="user_profile_link"  href="${comment.profile_url}">${comment.latest_comment_user_display_name}</a>
				  </h4>
			 </div>
		{else}
			<div class="comment_summary" id=0></div>
		{/if}
			 <div class="threaded_comments_review"></div>
		{if comment.solicit_comment_display == 'normal'}
			<div class="inline_solicitation">
			  <div class="comment_container">
					<form class="provide_comment_form" name="comment_review" method="POST" enctype="multipart/form-data"  action="https://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/reviewcomment/BLD0454/${review_id}">
						<input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${review_id}" />
						<input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="review" />
						<div class="error_message"></div>
						<div class="textarea_container"> 
							<textarea class="comment_content" name="comment_content" onkeyup="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.comment_content_onkeyup(this.form)" onfocus="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.comment_content_onfocus(this.form)">Write your comment here...</textarea>
							<input type="hidden" name="comment_content_default" value="Write your comment here..." /> 
						</div> 
						<input type="image" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/buttons/comment_it.gif" alt="Submit Comment" class="answer_it_button" /> 
						<span class="comment_chars"></span>
					</form>
				</div> 
			</div>
			<div class="clearb"></div>
		{elseif comment.solicit_comment_display == 'collapsed'}
			<div id="comment_solicit" class="comment_solicit">
				<p><a href="http://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/reviewcomment/BLD0454/" rel="nofollow">Comment on ${user.display_name}'s review ></a></p>
			</div>
		{/if}
		</div> 
	{elseif display == 'flagged'}
		<div class="review_item">
			<div class="review_text">
				<p class="user_flagged_text">
					<span onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.view_flagged_review_onclick(this, '${review_id}')">
						<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">${flagged_description}</a>
					</span>	
				</p>
			</div>
			{if message}<div class="review_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
		</div>
	{/if}

{if display == 'normal'}
 		<div class="comment_info">
			<p>By: <a class="user_profile_link" href="${user.profile_url}">${user.display_name}</a> 
				<a class="user_profile_link" href="${user.profile_url}"><img class="minipro_icon" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/profile/minipro_icon.gif" alt="" /></a>
				{if user.badges}
					{for badge in user.badges}
						${badge.image_el}
					{/for}
				{/if}
				<br />
				<span class="comment_date">${date}</span>
			</p>
		</div>
		<div class="comment_content">
		<div class="comment_text"><p>${body}</p></div>
	
		<p class="comment_options">
			{if flagged}
				<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.unflag_comment_onclick(this,'${id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Un-Flag</a></span>
			{else}
				<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_comment_onclick(this, '${id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Flag</a></span>
			{/if}
			<div class="error_message"></div>
		</p>
		
		<form class="helpfulness_form">
			<input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="comment" />
			<input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${id}" />
		   	<input type="hidden" name="is_helpful" value="" />
			<p>
           		Was this helpful?
	           	${helpful_html}
    	  	</p>
		</form>

</div>
		{if message}<div class="comment_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
	{elseif display == 'flagged'}
			<div class="comment_text">
				<p class="user_flagged_text">
					<span onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.view_flagged_comment_onclick(this, '${id}')">
						<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">${flagged_description}</a>
					</span>
				</p>
			</div>
			<div class="error_message"></div>
			{if message}<div class="comment_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
	{/if}

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Black Diamond Havoc Ski - 2008

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Tech Specs:

Lengths:: 165cm, 175cm, 185cm
Dimensions:: 123 / 88 / 115mm at 185cm
Turn Radius:: [185cm] 22.5m
Construction:: Double torsion box
Core Material:: 3D CNC wood
Base:: High-speed sintered
Tail:: Raised
Weight:: 9lb (4100g) Per pair (185cm)
Recommended Binding:: Tele or AT
Recommended Use:: Backcountry Touring, telemark
Manufacturer Warranty:: 1 Year

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