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Big Agnes Horse Thief Sleeping Bag: 35 Degree Down - 2008
Big Agnes designed the Horse Thief Down Sleeping Bag to be an economical choice for the light and fast backcountry crowd. Big Agnes made this water-resistant sleeping bag without insulation on the bottom of the bag because down compressed by your weight loses virtually all of its insulating value. Instead, Big Agnes put a sleeve in the Horse Thief's floor into which you slide your sleeping pad. This system provides more warmth than compressed insulation and reduces the overall weight of the bag; and you won't roll off your sleeping pad in the middle of the night. Compatible with Big Agnes 20-inch wide mummy sleep pads.
Bottom Line: Sleep more comfortably and reduce the weight of your pack with the crazy light Big Agnes Horse Thief.
I first get this bag for a self contained bike trek from Seattle to New York. after 53 days straight in this bag i can say the bag pad combo is almost better than my own bed. this bag get so small it can be packed anywhere. my wife and i have the same bag (a right and left zip) so we are able to zip 'em together and truly enjoy camping.
I have used this bag in 30 degree nights and with a fleece jacket and knit hat I was toasty. I have slept in ~40 degrees w/ shorts and and a shirt and was comfortable - for me the degree rating was right on. I use a Therm-A-Rest Pro-lite pad and it fit the pocket fine.
Big Agnes has washing instructions on their website. Pay close attention, because you can tear the baffles and then all the down moves to one end of the bag if you do it wrong.I have my down bags professionally cleaned. More costly but well worth it. If you must wash your bag at home, use ONLY a front loading washer, on the gentlest setting, using special down soap. Tumble AIR dry, periodically breaking up the wet clumps of down that will develop. Finish by line drying, preferably outdoors. MAKE SURE NOT TO CARRY YOUR BAG WHEN IT'S WET UNLESS TOTALLY SUPPORTED OR YOU COULD TEAR OUT THE INTERNAL BAFFLES! Wet down is heavy.
I ordered this bag from Backcountry because they had it listed in green and everybody else only had gray. It showed up at my house gray. Customer service was very apologetic and sent me out another one right away. It was gray, too. After another phone call it was determined that they don't have green. No problem, I said. I'll keep the gray. Well, a couple weeks later they still have a green Horse Thief bag listed. Don't be too surprised if after ordering it, it shows up gray. Bag seems good. I'm a back sleeper and I read that this bag is best for back sleepers since it uses an integrated pad. I'm looking forward to the small pack size since I don't have a bunch of room in my motorcycle cases.
overall, i like this sleeping bag especially with the sleeping pad sleeve.
here is a few thing i have to comment
pro:
1. ultra-light and true temperature rating, i couldn't believe it can stand its 35 degree rating when i first have it on hand. however it proves itself after a trip to Bryce (reported to be 32-35 degree, actually felt colder right before dawn because of the wind, i just need to have an extra layer to keep myself comfortable)
2. sleeping pad pocket to hold matching BA air cone pad, never find myself on the floor, and the pad is warm and comfortable. i can slept on my back, on either side, or even face down with no problem.
con:
1. (minor) manufactor weight rating is a bit off by 1-2oz, maybe it is due to the extra moisture got sucked into bag after normal use, my measurement right after first trip is 1lb 11oz (regular + sack bag), 3lb 2oz (long + long BA air cone sleeping pad, mummy)
2. down leakage, every morning when i woke up, i'd see couple (<5) down feathers poke thru or scatter around my tent, wish the thread count could be higher. (tip: pull the feather back into the bag on the first sight)
3. the girth is a bit too tight, i'm 5'10'' on a little heavy side, and with an extra layer of softshell, it gets air tight on my upper body if i pull the full zip.
4. the pillow bag has no use to me, i have to use my own air pillow and tie it to sleeping pad seperately.
overall, it is a greate bag and pairing it with air cone pad and i'm really enjoying the nights out there.
Just back from a weekend in Wales (UK), using this bag. I was skeptical about not having any insulation beneath me, but it worked a dream (using a thermarest pad, rather than BA). I slept like a baby. I really like the fact that the bag doesn't ruck up or twist around you. Also (using the grey-black colour way), it blocks loads of light. I woke up 2 hours after dawn and couldn't believe it was so bright when I emerged from the bag. Normally, I'm up at dawn. One word of warning: the stuff size is after compression. Some other bags have a stuff size before compression, so it's not a true comparison. This bas is much bigger than, say, a mountain hardwear phantom bag in its stuff sack which can't really be compressed any further.
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