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Arc'teryx created the Men's Beta AR Jacket for mountaineers and skiers who want the performance of Gore-Tex Pro and top-notch durability without a laundry list of un-needed features. The Beta AR Jacket includes polyester-reinforcements on high-abrasion areas like the shoulders and elbows to increase its lifespan. Underarm zips help you stay cool when the going gets tough, and WaterTight zippers combine with the waterproof breathable material to provide moisture protection when the weather turns nasty. What this Arc'teryx jacket doesn't have is a million pockets, a heavy zip-in liner, fancy electronics pockets, or any other weight-adding bells and whistles you don't want.
Bottom Line: Arc'teryx keeps the Beta AR Jacket simple without sacrificing much-needed durability or performance.
Good material, nice quality...infact top product. I bought it for backpacking-trekking in Patagonia, but I should have taken a longer model. Without backpack ok, but with the belt on your belly it even shortens. So my pants became wet even with a gore-tex pants under it
I just tried out this jacket for the first time today....awesome! It fits true to size, the hood adjusts perfectly to fit with or without a helmet...very lightweight but warm.
The Arc'teryx Beta AR (as well as all Arc'teryx Gore Pro-Shell) is made with 3-layer construction- to clarify- any Pro-Shell piece only uses one layer of Gore-Tex; the other layers are the face fabric and woven backer. 2-layer construction does away with the woven backer, and typically uses a hung nylon or mesh liner. Arc'teryx uses 3-layer construction exclusively because it is typically more durable, less bulky and easier to layer. Additionally, the backer won't soak up excess moisture like a liner can.
I just tried out this jacket for the first time today....awesome! It fits true to size, the hood adjusts perfectly to fit with or without a helmet...very lightweight but warm.
This is primarily in response to the previous question about the goretex jackets and pants in Patagonia with Nols and how some Nols students didn't recommend their use. i will be doing the semester in Patagonia next fall and was looking for a new jacket to buy. I need it to handle my mountaineering needs but also to perform well in wet environments as i do a lot of trekking on the Appalachian and will be spending a month in Lima next summer. I was looking at the Alpha SV, will it get the job done?
also, i am 6'1'' and weigh 175. I need some room to layer for warmth, will a L be my best bet?
The Arc'teryx Alpha SV is THE bomber mountain jacket; it will more than get the job done for the trips you've got planned. It is a bit longer than the Arc'teryx Beta AR, and also uses the more durable fabric through out, instead of as reinforcement. Sizing wise, you could wear a M if you want a more trim fit, but for really layering up, the L would give you a bit more room, but not fit like a sack. Have fun out there!
I love this coat. I was holed up at 14'000 feet on Rainier in a summit bivy. I had to piss so bad with no piss bottle. I used the POCKET OF THIS COAT and it held steady all night long.
I am planning on joining NOLS in Patagonia for some mountaineering. I was looking at the list of gear they expect you to bring. I found an interesting factoid about Gore-Tex in general (not specific to this jacket). Here it is:
"Note on Gore-Tex: Although a pair of Gore-Tex pants or bibs will fill the need for a waterproof and breathable layer, past students have found that in very wet environments, Gore-Tex does not perform and becomes soggy and heavy. Gore-Tex is acceptable, but students continually advise against it. A pair of Wind pants is usually more breathable than Gore-Tex shells, and a coated raincoat more waterproof. The combined weight of the two layers is often less than a single Gore-Tex layer. This applies for upper body shell layers as well."
Here is where I got this from: http://www.nols.edu/courses/pdf/patagonia/amt_el.pdf
Any comments on this? Anyone encounter this problem? I wonder if they specifically target Gore-Tex or membranes in general.
I've been on the semester in Patagonia NOLS course. The website is right. Everyone who brought Gore-Tex instead of a lightweight, breathable alternative, had waterproofing problems. Also, I heard people complaining about the weight of their coats and pants.
I took the Beta AR with me for a year out and about -Mongolia, China, N.Z and went up and down trekking for LONG time...it's one of my best friends now :)
I have used TNF shells, then I moved to Mtn Hardwear, this jacket is my first Arcteryx. It is the best shell I've ever owned. Lighter and more streamlined then any shell I've owned. What a product! Perfect for ski mountaineering, climbing, etc. I was concerned about what size to get. I'm 5'10" and 160 lbs. and the medium fits perfect. I use the Arcteryx Venta AR as a softshell layer. Perfect combo. Wow!
Are there any breathability measurements/specs for this jacket? How does this jacket's breathability compare to eVent jackets of the same high caliber (ie - Westcomb, or even stoic eVent)?
Here's the company line from the Arc'teryx Head of Softgoods Design: "This is a highly debated area with more spin than a your average roller derby.
We have generally tried to stay clear of these numbers because our cumulative years in the field has taught us that true performance/comfort in waterproof breathable fabrics comes from a synergy of many different elements:
· Face fabric.
· DWR.
· Membrane/Evaporative resistance.
· Resistance to oil and other contaminants.
· Internal moisture dispersion/ backer.
· Garment design, fit and construction.
and the longevity of each of these elements.
For those driven by figures: all our Gore-tex fabrics have a Hydrostatic head of at least 28 000mm which equates to 40PSI.
Gore prefers to use as RET values as they, like many, believe that it gives a better correlation to human comfort than Mvtr.
Our Values here are all lower than 6 but I do not have a specific number for each fabric. RET values are affected by the weight and density of face and backer fabrics. The Pro-shell range of fabrics spans RET values from 4 to 6. (lower is better) I believe eVent claims an RET of 4.5, but this figure must change with each individual fabric combination.
Best figures that Ive been able to dig up is Gore 28 000 Hydrostatic head 17 000 MVTR again the inverted cup method used to measure MVTR has very little correlation to human comfort."
With that being said, I've seen a few tests comparing eVent to Gore Pro-shell. Initially the eVent does breathe better, but since it lacks the oleophobic (oil hating) membrane of Gore-Tex, the eVent membrane tends go get clogged quickly, which in a short time, greatly reduces it breathability. Arc'teryx has tested every WP/B membrane out there, and still uses only Gore Tex Pro-shell and Paclite, because it maintains the highest level of performance for the longest amount of time. The more important consideration in buying a jacket is Design, Construction, Materials. Both Gore and eVent make great products, it's what the manufacturers do with those membranes that count. whew, that's a mouthful
I bought this jacket about 2 months ago. I have now used it numerous times for early season skiing and other high-country adventures. In short, it is totally bomb-proof and worth the money. It is my first Arc'teryx product and I am totally satisfied. The fit is very athletic (I am 6 feet / 185 pounds and got the large), although some may find it too short in front for their taste (but I like the cut as it allows for excellent range of motion). The jacket is also roomy enough for plenty of layers beneath, and the pit zips actually work extremely well for high output heat dumping (thanks to the superior design and construction). The Gore-Tex Pro material is also amazing -- repels water like I have never seen and melts snow on contact. I purchased the "Jalapeno" green color (now discontinued), and the jacket truly proves that "less is more" (no unecessary bells and whistles). Serious props Arc'teryx. Much appreesh your product and committment to quality.
Two questions.....how low can temps get with this jacket still keeping you warm with only a t shirt....and also, i heard colors on here are touched up and look a little different in person....what can ya'll tell me about aztec and copper?
The Arc'teryx Beta AR is a Gore-tex proshell, and as such, doesn't offer insulation, other than blocking the elements. Your activity level and how much cold you can stand determine how cold it can go (you'd be warmer with something besides a cotton T). Any jacket giving you temp ratings is worthless. The color on the Aztec here is pretty accurate; but it would look way better on you.
I recently purchased this jacket to replace my older Beta AR (XCR Gore-tex). Initially I was hesitant on sizing however the medium fits perfectly (5'8", 150lbs). In comparison with the older version (same size, medium) the newer is slightly longer and roomier especially around the armpits and chest. The only thing that I can see being a problem is the Gore-tex pro seems a little more fragile, only time will tell. This jacket is the perfect length for use with a harness, if you are looking for something longer take a look at the Alpha or Theta series.
This jacket is great. There is plenty of neck room so when you zip it up you aren't choking when you lift the hood up, unlike my Marmot oracle. The Gore-tex Pro is super breathable. Zippers are tough and general design principles seem to be really well thought through. For instance when you draw the hood closed the straps aren't flying out in your face, they pull nicely through gussets that keep them clean. Really nice jacket, well worth the price. One thing is that it only comes about an inch below the top of your hip bone but the cinch cord shuts it down so air cant get up in there. I look forward to testing it out with a New Hampshire winter!
This is by far one of the best, if not the best jacket I have ever owned. It is bomber proof, is packable enough to carry with me in a small pack and does it all. From rain storms riding on a motorcycle at 100 mph to the worst bllizzards on planet earth. I stay dry, the jacket is like a john deere tractor in that it never breaks down. Arcteryx know this stuff and since I bought this jacket I have upgraded all of my gear to this brand. their pants are bomber as well and have put up with some of the worst treatment ever just as has my AR .
If you skimp on the few extra dollars for this kind of quality, then surely you will pay twice in the long run. This is a jacket that will last me twenty years. Arcteryx customer service in BC is the best company I have ever talked to about their garments. they back up their stuff 110%.
Also made in Canada by people earning living pay wages, not some chinese sweat shop labor making fat cats greedy rich.
I am sending this Beta AR jacket back It is made in China to start with, It' way to short and the hood is to big. It's way over priced, you should be ashamed selling a garment like this
I am sending this Beta AR jacket back It is made in China to start with, It' way to short and the hood is to big. It's way over priced, you should be ashamed selling a garment like this
why do you advertise on all wesbites the price of $297.46 for your Arc'Teryx Beta AR Jacket in Aztec and I cannot find it at this price on your own website?
I have owned this jacket for over a year and it has treated me very well. It is a technical shell, thus being shorter that others due to the fact that if you are backpacking, hiking, climbing, ice climbing, ect. and are wearing a type of harness or belted backpack it performs well without interfering and getting in the way. It is weather proof, Chicago rain/snow/winds to Colorado skiing and hiking, its lightweight and easy to maintain(keep clean). I would highly recommend this jacket. They back their products 100% and I will never purchase another brand of technical outerwear. Throw this shell over a soft shell with and you are good to go!
Is there any sigificance of the Alpha, Beta Theta, etc. categories? What do the SL, AR, LT, etc. call outs stand for? How does the Beta AR compare to the Theta AR?
Here's some more information in addition to Benjamin's contributions.
* Sigma-- Softshell(mostly Gore Windstopper fabric) * Gamma -- Softshell (mostly Polartech Power shield fabric) * Delta -- Insulation (Mid layer) pieces * Alpha -- Goretex hardshell * Beta -- Goretex hardshell (climbing) Cut shorter, with 2 hand pockets * Theta -- Goretex hardshell (Skiing inspired, usally 3 layer Gore) longer cut, powder skirt, waist draw cord and extra chest pockets. * Rho-- Base layers ( synthetic and merino)
* SV --Severe-- Heavier (tougher) fabric , larger (helmet compatible) hoods * AR--All Around-- usally slightly lighter then SV and more all around features * LT -- Light-- Lightweight ,usally XCR ,fewer features * SL-- superlight--Super Lightweight, lightest fabric, minimal pockets or vents * SK--Ski-- only SK item is the Theta SK pants, Great heavy duty bib ski pants * MX--Mixed-- Gamma MX series only, Polartech power shield * Comp--Composite-- Combination of hardshell and softshell
I've put about 20 months on this jacket thus far. It has excelled in the wettest of conditions and withstood abrasion like a champ. The DWR treatment is still alive and kickin' keeping me dry. This is a great heavy duty rain jacket or an excellent light weight shell for snow filled pursuits. The Gore-Tex Pro Shell is super tough. I recommend this for a good all round bomber shell. For those looking for a lighter version of this jacket for rain protection try the Beta SL Jacket. Same jacket made with lighter Gore-Tex that is ultra packable and still provide wetness protection.
For the spring 09 Arc'teryx lineup, the Beta AR is due to be available in the new color "Big Sky"... unfortunately, I can not find a picture of the jacket in this color, nor do I have any clue what color it is... anyone know? Thanks, Nick
^ A vendor website, but without a preview... I checked the Arc'teryx site with no luck, so I'm wondering if they haven't announced it or really committed to it. Thanks
Arc'teryx has their Spring '09 line-up on their redesigned website and it doesnt have the Beta AR listed in the "Big Sky" color. Where did you hear about this new color?
I was a bit hesitant to order this jacket based on some of the reviews about the length of the jacket 'and bagginess' around the shoulders, but it turned out to be a non-issue for me. I own several Arc'teryx jackets (Fission AR and SV, Alpha LT) and I have to say this is truly and all around (AR) jacket. It is definitely shorter than the Alpha, it sits exactly below my belt, and the rear drop back covers 3/4 of my rear end. I can see that if you have a longer torso, this jacket would just be too short. If I wear a slightly longer fleece, the front edge will peek underneath the jacket around the belt. The extra room around the shoulder area is great for me. For whatever reason the other jackets like the Theta AR always seem to rub against my armpits and this is just uncomfortable. I do not have this problem with my Beta AR, and I can put a fleece underneath with comfort. The other feature I like is the collar, you can zip it all the way up and it protects your neck from the elements. I think this is an important distinction with the Alpha line. The Alpha design probably assumes that you will have the hood up most of the time. Don't get me wrong, the Alpha LT is probably my favorite jacket for the outdoors, the fabric is super tough and more flexible, and is a little longer overall front and back. The only thing is that the Alpha leaves your neck more exposed if the hood is down. The fabric looks bombproof and the cut is trim. I actually love this about Arc'teryx in general, but this jacket is particularly nice fitting. I am 5'10" and 169 lb, athletic build and I just love how this M size fits me. The hood is very well designed as well, you can custom fit it to perfection with all of the adjustments possible. The Beta AR is significantly nicer that the Beta SL. It is not only a bit longer (about 3/4" longer, and it may not seem like much but it makes a difference), has pit zips, and the Gore-Tex PRO breathes significantly better than the thinner GoreTex Pac-Lite. Great construction, fully taped seams, and quality zippers. Very happy with this one. I thinks this is a very well designed jacket. Get it on sale while it is available!
good fit for tall guys. it has long arms, is a bit too wide and bit too short at the waist. still, it fits me pretty good, is durable, all the zips work smooth, neck is good protectet form wind and snow blowing in......... only real downturn: it's so expensive.
about 2" longer in the theta AR. 2" is about right. The Beta AR is listed at hip length with a drop hem while the Theta AR is listed at below hip length with the drop hem
I spent last summer in Svalbard and in the High Canadian Arctic and my Beta Jacked performed very well. Warm enough to be comfortable in Summer Arctic temperature below zero it kept me dry. It fits very well and it can accommodate some layering. I like it quite a lot and I look forward to use it next Winter in the Alps.
sure would. I prefer the Theta AR for biking because it cover my butt. You can adjust layers underneath according to temp. the Delta series fleece are great because they're breathable and really efficient without being bulky
The best jacket I have ever owned! I have had this jacket for about a year now and have used it for everything from backcountry hiking to backcountry skiing. It works great in all situations. I am only 5'7 and this jacket fits me just perfectly. Nice and slim cut. I love the fact that the shorter cut does not interfere with my pack or leave all kinds of excess material bunched up. It's nice and light with a minimal design. No unnecessary frills. The hood is really well thought out with a miriad of adjustable pulls on it to cinch it any way you need. The bottom closes up nice and snug. The fabric is very durable. I have put it through all kinds of abuse hiking, skiing, and climbing and it still looks and performs great. It breathes extremely well in the hot and humid...yet still keeps you really warm with just a simple base and mid underneath. This jacket is completely waterproof. I have hiked all day in a serious downpour, skiied in deep powder, canoed in blowing rain, etc...only to find myself dry as a bone underneath. The jacket has great style too! I get all kinds of compliments on it when I am just wearing it around town. I have the black version and it has a great understated yet tech forward look to it. I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for a light, minimal, durable, shorter cut and stylish jacket for go anywhere in any weather functionality.
the whole Alpha SV is built from the burlier fabric, Beta AR uses the tougher fabric on shoulders and arms. Alpha is also a bit longer (about and inch)fit in arms and torso are similar.
I really tried to like this jacket but no. I'm 5'11" and size medium was perfect for me (sleeves, shoulders and chest were not too long, too loose or too tight, these were perfect). But jacket is just cut too short from the front. This is the reason I'm selling this and getting something else... haven't decided yet.
PLUS: -light -waterproof as Pro Shell should be. -quality product
CONS: -front is cut too short. It does not cover my belt buckle so all the shirts stick out and cold air comes in. -baggy around belly area. If you have a large gut then this is good but remember the first con. -expensive
Before you buy you should try it on and really pay attention to the front is cut.
For sure! and it's versatile so you can use it in other seasons as well. Really tough fabrics, but not too stiff because of high thread count fabric and nice patterns put together with the narrow seams.
I think the material is great but I have to say it is too short. The front comes just above your belt. Probably the perfect cycling jacket but for style and skiing... too short.
Large would be your best bet. I'm 6", 205 lbs and this works, although the space for layering is one fleece or softshell. Shoulders are a bit tight, as well, as the sizing is for 43".
Perfect for climbing where the length is short enough that the jacket does not get caught in the belay device. The large is what I got, I'm 5'7 170 with broad shoulders so the athletic fit is just perfect. There's enough room that I can still layer and that I don't feel bulky.
Actually, you've got it completely backwards. The Beta line is cut tighter, which obviously means there is less room for layering versus the Theta. The Beta is geared for technical backcountry use like climbing, whereas the Theta is more for light hiking and general wear.Also keep in mind that the SV version is meant for more heinous weather and gives a little more room for a thicker layer if that interests you.
is maybe not how Arc'teryx will describe this jacket. Nevertheless thats how I will describe it. The fabric you'll find in almost every other top jacket. But this jacket is short with a tight fit - and goes as well on the slopes (with a bib) as in the city. I havent found the same versatility in any other jacket.
I took a medium which is what I usually wear for jacket. Also, I too find it to be baggy, especially around the arms. I also feel it's short and the hood is very large.
The material is very nice, however and would have loved it if it were cut differently.
I just bought this jacket and it was a bit of a disappointment. My main complaint was the length. Like others have said, it is just too short in the front. Its so short that its hits above my belt line and if you wore a fleece underneath it will hang out. Another complaint for me is that the arms were a little too baggy and long. Maybe I should go down in size, I dont know, but I where a medium in every jacket I own and while this one fits in the chest, its too large in the arms and as previously mentioned, too short in the front. Besides that, it does have good construction and seems tough.
Streamlined, super well built, couldn't ask for anything more. Great climbing piece, I also use it as my everyday ski shell. Layered with a Gamma MX for high output activities or a down sweater for those chilly days, it has proved excellent in all conditions.
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