They have a different ride to them than the AR6's, and I felt them to be a little awkward, but I like the more traditional sidecut. The AR6 is a very traditional ski, that is proven to crush the park and the rest of the mountain. The rocker on that Alpha 1 is nice, you can ride it all mountain, in the small fall pow days, or on the crisp new groomers, and it does help the butters and swing weight like they say, but nothing really noticeable except to really good park skiers. The Alpha 1 would just take longer to get used to.

These actually are sick in the pow, im 193, 6'1 and was crushin it on my bruddies 180's i think and they float pretty solid. the pow was about 9 inchs but they stayed up really easily and they kill it in the park/pipe too. Super sick steeze added with tall teez!

These actually are sick in the pow, im 193, 6'1 and was crushin it on my bruddies 180's i think and they float pretty solid. the pow was about 9 inchs but they stayed up really easily and they kill it in the park/pipe too. Super sick steeze added with tall teez!

These might good in pow if you are TINY. under 80lbs. They borrow the Rocker shape that are popular with pow skis, but are designed as a PARK ski.

Never skied them, but just from the dimensions i would have to say no. Anything 80 underfoot probably won't cut it.

Better. Stay away from Salomon, because they have had some issues with edge damage. Give it a few more years for them to sort it out.
Invaders will be too soft for anything too big.
and between the AR6 and these.
got for the Alphas. They are a much more specialized ski. so much POP.

they are just as good if i were you I would go with these

I agree with you, i can't understand why the obseth is so heavy, i know it is bullet prof, but i would be so much funnier if it was lighter, but that weight helps in the crud. The only complaint i hear about the bacon is just what your saying that it has to much sidecut for being so fat of a powder ski it does have a certain feel that you have to get used to and is very different then a traditional ski. I have mine at +3 from midsole and weigh 175, if i stay centered right over my boot and drive them they carve insane, almost as good as any gs ski i have skied, they just arch and pop out of turns, in powder i do have to lean back slightly but they float unreal, they are one of those skis that you love em or struggle just trying to figure them out. I'm suprised it's so bad up there we have gotten over 7 feet in the sierras just this last week. have fun .

I have skied them and i was not impresed with them on groomers, they skied no better then the ar6 or arv, they buttered easy and had a lot of pop but they skied no better on groomers, I would not really consider the obseth a rockered ski it's so slight that it does not make all that much difference, have you skied the line bacon? it skies the groomers and powder better then the obseth with no rocker, just slight camber, if you want to see a how a tru rockered ski is suppose to ski try the hellbents, thats what they sould do with the obseth then it would truly rip. No offense but after riding the obseth i thought it was way over rated, just another over hyped ski because of the person who designed and rides it, sorry.

NO rockered ski is going to rip groomers as well as a traditional cambered ski its just hype, if you want a twin that rips hardsnow the 4frnt MSP is hands down the best.

It will not be as good as your pipe cleaners. This ski is not a traditional camber or sidecut like your current ski. It is much more park oriented and will not carve as well as the pipe cleaners.

With its early rise design it might be a little weird on edge hold if you are just carving groomers and things like that. There are much better skis for what it looks like you want to use them for. If you want to stick with armada and want a good performing ski that will rip all mountain and park check the ar6 or arv (a little wider and heavier)

You're right these skis are crazy. I haven't skied the Alpha 1, but have spent quality time on the new JJ. Both models feature a similar design called Elf Shoe Tech. The skis track and carve very well, even on hard snow and they don't weigh a thing. Most park skis don't have a very big running length in the first place, so you won't notice any shortcomings with an early rising tip and tail. What you will notice is that in variable snow that you can still jib and butter around as if you were rocking a groomer thus making the entire mountain your jib park. Hope this helps out some!

stiff underfoot and softened up a bit in the tip and tail -- not floppy soft though