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The ridiculously tiny Optimus Crux Stove folds up to fit under a 220g butane canister and weighs only 3.3oz. When you need to go ultralight on your backcountry travels, this stove definitely needs to be with you. The Cruz Stove burns for 60 minutes going full blast with a 220g canister, and it boils a liter of water in only 3 minutes. When you decided to bring a tarp instead of a tent and pull the frame from your pack to save weight, you better have this Optimus stove on the gear list.

Bottom Line: Stoves just keep getting lighter and smaller, and Optimus is at the head of the pack with the 3.3oz Crux Stove.

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Rating for this product: 5

Perfect Canister Stove

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February 22, 2012

This stove is built more solidly that the MSR pocket rocket. I was able to boil a 16 oz of water in under 3 min. It was about 40 degrees and at 1700ft. It collapses nicely and fits underneath an 8oz bottle of fuel.

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Rating for this product: 5

Good Things Come In Small Packages

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November 26, 2007

The five main things I like about this stove is:
1. 12,000 BTU's,
2. The way it folds down & fits into the bottom of your fuel canister,
3. Very lightweight,
4. Constructed of high quality components for durability & longevity,
5. Fuel efficient. Uses 5g of fuel to bring 8oz of water to boil.
If you're a stove nut like me, this is a must have for your collection.

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August 19, 2011

Uh dude, it has 10200 btu's, not 12000.

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Any one have issues with there optimus Crux working with the

Any one have issues with there optimus Crux working with the new brighter orange/red MSR fuel cans, I am on stove # 2 and it will work with a cheap ozark trail fuel can a snow peak fuel the old MSR cans but on the new ones its died on me twice only burning the first 10% or so of the can. used my friends msr pocket rocket on the same fuel can and he had no problems

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September 7, 2011

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temp was 75- 80 F seal is great like i said i can use it with every other fuel except the new MSR can. and yes my friend was right there with me it took it off my stove and put it on his pocket rocket he had no problems.

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September 8, 2011

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Sounds like just the propane in the fuel mixture is burning based on your 10%. That's normally a temperature issue. What was the temperature? Were you hooking up your friend's PocketRocket under the same conditions? Seal is good?

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September 8, 2011

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Rating for this product: 4

OC Stove Review

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April 15, 2011

This was my first "backpacking" stove I bought just a couple short years ago. It wasn't so much the weight that drew me to it, but rather the packed size. I was intrigued that the stove would fold over and pack beneath the bottom of the fuel canister.

So, I ordered it, and once it got here, well it was all that I wanted of it. It did 2 things really well. 1. It got really hot which meant it brought my water to a boil very quickly (2 cups in my 700 ml BC Ti pot in just under 2 minutes). And 2. The flame is easily adjustable, over a pretty wide range. I could open it up wide open and it would almost instantly boil water, or I could turn it way down and be able to simmer noodles or Mac-N-Cheese.

However, after reading through other reviews and speaking with someone for Primus, I realized that the head was not as secure as it should have been. The head pivots on a ball joint and there is a locking ring that springs back up to lock the head in place. With mine, the ring did not quite meet the bottom lip of the head so there was a little play in the stability. Primus told me to send it in and they would take a look see.

Well, about 2 short weeks later, they had contacted me and told me that the were shipping me a replacement.

When it arrived, I was stoked. The head did in fact lock down way more securely than the one I sent in. However, I quickly realized that the burner control was not the same. I could turn it up and it sounded like a blow torch, however, if I tried to turn it down low to simmer, well it didn't happen. It would get to a point and then simply poof out rather then burn slower.

I dealt with this though because in the mean time I had switched to using alcohol stoves... I used the new Optimus Crux maybe twice at most, and then it went into my storage bins...

A few months ago my buddy decided to go backpacking with me. I let him use the Optimus Crux. It did fine on the first trip he carried it on, at least that I saw. The next trip, it bit the dirt. He carried a brand new fuel canister, but even with the stove turned all the way up there was hardly a flame. I will just say it like this, 10 minutes after I finished boiling 1L of water using my GSI Kettle and my White Box alcohol stove, his 2 cups of water still had not even begun to form bubbles... The stove acted this way all 3 days.

When I got back home I tried it with 5 other fuel canisters, and I got the same results each time. So, I again contacted Primus. After exchanging a few emails they told me to send it back and they would again check it out. So, I did.

About 3 1/2 weeks later I tried contacting them to see what was going on and they told me a tech would have to check it out. Finally, a couple of days ago I got an email saying that the stove could not be fixed and a new one would be going out in the mail to me.

So, despite the stoves set backs, I am still quite happy with the stove. It is small so it packs in tiny spaces. And it isn't as light as my alcohol stove, but it is fairly light-weight. And between the 2 different stoves I have had, 1 had great heat control, and the other had great stability. So, I am hoping that the one on its way will encompass the best of both worlds! And while the customer service was not as great the second time around, they did still come through for me (or at least I hope so, I don't have the stove in yet...)

For a more detailed review of the stove, check out my review over on backpackgeartest.org:

http://sticksblog.com/gear/kitchen/stoves-extras/optimus-crux/

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June 11, 2011

That's my story, and I'm "Stick"ing to it.

Really though, it is what it is...

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May 24, 2011

Don't be such a "Stick" in the mud.

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Optimus Crux in Action

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May 18, 2011

This stove was awesome on the first time out. Boiled super fast and was cool in no time to pack it up. I am a lover of this stove now.

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Rating for this product: 4

Can't beat the price and size

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October 17, 2008

Just got this stove and have yet to field test it but so far I think it will do. Pros: tiny, you can fit this thing just about anywhere, doesn't quite fit under the 220 as well as I would like and will probly just thow it on top of the canister in my pot. The flame adjustment is great. Unlike others who say it is hard to adjust I would disagree, you can easily get this thing to simmer. Cons: no need to wast the time and ounces with the included carry case, top seems to be a bit wobbly and unstable, something I may be able to remedy with a quick tightening or whatnot, certainly not something I would leave unattended. Overall I am pretty happy with it. I'm guessing it will serve its purpose and be a part of my gear for a long time to come.

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What does this stove come with? (i.e. Does it come with the

What does this stove come with? (i.e. Does it come with the small butane canister shown above?)

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May 31, 2011

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With the exception of a stuff sack, what you see pictured is basically what you get. However, the fuel canister is not included. Any type of fuel is expensive to ship because of haz mat regulations, so you're better off buying it in a brick and mortar retailer unless you're buying it in serious bulk.

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May 31, 2011

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Rating for this product: 5

Compact and Powerful

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June 17, 2010

I love this stove! Just used it on its first outing and it performed wonderfully. I'm able to pack the stove and fuel canister into my MSR tea kettle giving me a liter of water-boiling capacity in 3-4 minutes with very little weight. Seems to be very well built and I expect years of use. The fuel valve seems to be a little sensitive, so bumping it can cause the fuel flow to be interrupted, but if you're careful while setting the burner it works just fine. Of course, it has the issues of any canister stove, i.e. not great in cold weather, but I couldn't ask for much better.

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Pocket Full of Fire!

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August 9, 2010

This little thing will blow your socks off when it comes do boiling water.

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Rating for this product: 5

Awesome

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June 23, 2008

I love this stove. very light very compact. I fit it inside my msr titan cup along with my brunton spork and a lighter.

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Write your question here...can you use a regular coleman propane

Write your question here...can you use a regular coleman propane canister for fuel with this stove

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March 4, 2011

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No if you're referring to the 16.4oz Coleman green propane bottle.

The Optimus Crux stove uses ONLY Lindal valve (screw-on) type, compressed gas, fuel canisters made by @ least nine manufacturers including Brunton, Coleman, Jetboil, Kovea, Markill, MSR, Optimus, Primus, Snow Peak, etc. These canisters can be found in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, western Europe, Japan, & Korea.

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March 5, 2011

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Rating for this product: 5

Great Stove

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June 12, 2010

I love my Crux. It never ceases to amaze both me and people I camp with at just how fast it can boil water. It folds incredibly small and fits under it's fuel canister, which all fits nicely inside of my pot set. It is extremely durable and has taken a lot of abuse since I have had it. It does not get much better than this stove.

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Everything under one lid in a Titan

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February 15, 2011

Stove,Fuel,Spork,Flame,Soap,Oil,Seasonings,and Towel

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Rating for this product: 4

Nice stove, buy mine is defective!

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April 1, 2010

I bought this stove since the similar Brunton Flex did not work out for me due to stability issues. The Optimus Crux has a better locking mechanism, so the stability of the folding mechanism is not an issue for this stove. However, the one I ordered from Backcountry.com seems to be defective. When the regulator handle is folded closed, the valve is actually open by about 1/3 of a turn. This is not good because typically one would not unfold the handle until after threading it onto the fuel canister (as shown in their video demo). However, doing so caused fuel to start spewing out! I contacted Optimus and they have confirmed that this is a problem with this particular stove. They offered to replace the stove, I already need to return the Brunton Flex stove already, I am just going to retun it to Backcountry and find something else. I hate having to pay shipping costs to replace an item that is BRAND NEW and UNUSED, but defective. Anyway, this stove is light-weight, folds down, and is quite stable. The holder pouch isn't quite as nice as the one that came with the Flex, but this stove is very similar and about $10 or so cheaper. Also, it has a 2 year warranty according to the included information rather than the 1 year listed on the Backcountry.com web site.

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May 31, 2011

When I bought my Crux I was told this was an intentional design feature, as keeping the valve closed during storage has the tendency to wear out the regulator's internal seal. Could have just been a crock from the sales guy, but I've just gotten used to unfolding the handle and closing the regulator before screwing it on to the fuel canister. No big deal.

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April 15, 2011

I have had 2 of these stoves, and about to have a third. other than that I have played around with a few different ones in various stores. that being said, all of them had the same issue that you explain. With 100% of my experience with them being this way, I don't see it at all as a defect. A very simple solution is to simply unfold the wire handle and turn the valve off before screwing the stove onto the canister. Like I said, I have been doing it this way since the first time I put my hands on one.

As well, the first one I had did have some issues with the locking mechanism. The ring did not meet the bottom of the burner head when it was sprung back up so there was a little play in the stability.

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has someone got a picture of this bad boy folded? cheers

has someone got a picture of this bad boy folded? cheers

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November 29, 2010

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Got this off the Optimus website. Hope it helps you.

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November 29, 2010

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Rating for this product: 5

Really Nice Little Stove...

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November 8, 2009

I got this stove last spring, used it quite a bit this year, and so far i don't have any complaints. If you know you want a Compressed Butane Canister stove i would definitely check this one out. Its super affordable, and like some of the other posts have already mentioned it puts out a large sized cookable flame for the stove's small size. It has pretty good heat control as well, especially compared to some of the stoves my buddies use. One thing to remember about the compressed gas it uses, if the temps at night get pretty cold you probably need to sleep with your canister in your bag or it will be difficult to get a consistent flame in the morning.

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So Excited!

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July 17, 2011

I can't wait to use this little beast, it pumps out some serious heat.

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Rating for this product: 5

Awesome Stove

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August 22, 2011

Just got this stove for 40$ at my local retailer, and i love it. I boiled 2 cups of water in 2 minutes 41 seconds, and I only used 6 grams of MSR IsoPro fuel! That means I can boil that much about 38 times before I need to buy another fuel canister! I then tried it again, and I boiled 2 cups of water in 1 minute 33 seconds, using 8g of fuel. I also boiled 1 Liter of water in 2 minutes 45 seconds, using 15 grams of fuel. I found the most efficient burn time for boiling 2 cups of water is 3 minutes 25 seconds. It has a wide burner head, and this thing burns a lot. Great stove, only downside is that the flame does burn out if it is breezy and you have it turned down, and that you do have to adjust the flame level if you are simmering. Definitely buy.

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How does the Crux stove compare to the Pocket Rocket stove?

How does the Crux stove compare to the Pocket Rocket stove?

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August 31, 2010

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The Optimus Crux has a larger burner head making it better for simmering & using larger diameter cookware. The flame is spread more evenly across the bottom of the pot/pan & therefore eliminating the dreaded hot spot.

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December 9, 2010

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Hey Matt,

How does the performance of the Crux compare to the Crux lite?

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October 3, 2010

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The two stoves are very similar. The main difference being that the Crux is capable of folding at the stem, making it more compact for storage. The folding mechanism also makes the Crux a tad heavier (add 8 grams).

I would suggest that the more comparable Optimus stove to the Pocket Rocket would be the Crux Lite (http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Optimus-Crux-Lite-Stove/OPS0008M.html). The Crux Lite doesn't fold, so it is lighter than the Crux by almost a full ounce (21 grams), and lighter than the Pocket Rocket by 13 grams.

I have the Crux Lite, and my brother has the Crux. They have performed very well for us. I also think that MSR makes top notch equipment. I really don't think you can go wrong with any of these stoves.

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September 1, 2010

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Rating for this product: 5

Awesome Stove

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August 19, 2011

Just got this stove for 40$ at my local retailer, and i love it. I boiled 2 cups of water in 2 minutes 41 seconds, and I only used 6 grams of MSR IsoPro fuel! That means I can boil that much about 38 times before I need to buy another fuel canister! It has a wide burner head, and this thing burns a lot. Great stove, can't think of any downsides

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Rating for this product: 5

Better than my stove at home

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May 25, 2009

This stove works great. Folds down so small and fits under the canister inside my cookset (Optimus Weekendeder). The "stuff sack" it comes with does not nestle inside my cookset, so I just keep it form bouncing around with a microfiber camp towel. It will boil a liter of water in 3-4 minutes, and I got 6 boils out of a 220g canister in moderate temperature, 60F, with little wind. I can blow it out myself, so I would recommend a wind screen if you will be relying on this stove for all your cooking. Temperature control works well for me and I am able to cook fresh eggs for breakfast without any burning. The folding arms do tend to become harder to open/close after their slight warping during normal use, but I actually prefer this since they wouldn't stay closed during transportation before it was used. The Optimus Crux does boil water faster than the Frigidaire appliance I have sitting in my kitchen at home. I highly recommend this stove.

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November 8, 2009

You can put a wind screen around the pot on top but not the canister. The entire area below the burner needs to be ventilated to avoid overheating & possibly something worse.

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August 26, 2011

I always use a full circle reflectix style wind screen, cut low on the control side-with 1" air space in diameter all sides-It allows you to turn down the stove even lower, and sort of warms the cannister to keep the pressure up, thus stretching the fuel even longer--NO BLOWUPS, but you have to PAY ATTENTION

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April 15, 2011

I have a Primus windscreen that I use around my stove. It clips around the lip of the canister and only covers one side. This allows plenty of ventilation around the canister. However, I still don't think that this is fully recommended...

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November 2, 2009

I've heard that putting a wind screen around your canister mounted stove can lead to overheating of the canister, resulting in possible explosion

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I've been looking around on other sites and have seen some

I've been looking around on other sites and have seen some of these with what looks like a stainless head and are not the Crux Lite...is there a new version out and when can we get that one on this site?

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March 2, 2010

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The first one I had was similar to your description:

http://sticksblog.com/gear/kitchen/stoves-extras/optimus-crux/

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April 15, 2011

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yes to Jeff...no to Tony

I want the flip head on the standard crux but the stainless of the crux lite

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March 3, 2010

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Actually more like this:

http://www.optimusstoves.com/seen/optimus-products/products/katadynshopconnect/optimus-outdoor-kocher/optimus-crux/

This Crux appears to have the original burner head with newer style pot supports.

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March 2, 2010

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You mean like this?

http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Optimus-Crux-Lite-Stove/OPS0008M.html

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March 2, 2010

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Rating for this product: 4

Tiny and efficient.

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June 26, 2007

Almost disappears in your pack it is so small, my only complaint is the extending arms got very stiff after the first use.

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September 14, 2011

Check the rivits along the entire stove. They are not stainless and will rust under heat / humidity. I've replaced mine with stainless ones (not an easy feat). Besides replaceing them, I would use QD Contact Cleaner, available at any auto store, and a very soft brass brush to clean the rust off them.

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Rating for this product: 5

Great stove

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May 31, 2011

Just to second all the great reviews, I love my Optimus Crux. I suspect I have one of the older versions with a little wobble in the burner but great flame control, and I'm opting to keep it. The wobbling is a minor annoyance, but once you're aware of it you shouldn't have any problems.

Tiny, powerful -- what more could you ask for? It fits best on the 4oz fuel canisters -- the 8oz canisters stretch the elastic on the case a bit too much, and the case swamps over the sides of the smaller canisters. But they all still fit together in one way or another, and with a little ingenuity your entire mess kit will fit inside one pot with this stove in your arsenal. I've taken it on numerous backcountry outings, and it now comes highly recommended by me.

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Anyone know if it will fit under a 110g canister like that of

Anyone know if it will fit under a 110g canister like that of a jetboil canister in order to fit into say a snow peak trek 700 mug\cup? The canister in the photo looks to be a large and wide canister.

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November 15, 2009

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The Crux is designed to fit on the 8oz canisters. It will fit loosley on the 4oz Brunton & MSR. It will not fit properly on the JetBoil & Snow Peak 4oz canisters due to the fact their diameters are smaller.

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November 16, 2009

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Rating for this product: 2

Needs some fixes

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October 8, 2008

Sure is light and nifty, but the folding burner does not lock properly and I spilled a liter of boiling water the first time I used it. No harm done, but if you do this on a small bivvy ledge you could end up with it in your lap! Too bad, because its bad engineering, not a bad concept. The valve is sooooper touchy! It seemed like unless you had it cranked up like a Saturn V (am I dating myself?) you could not touch the valve without the stove flaming out instantly. Don't know what the cause of that is, but it's not something that happens on the any of the other half dozen stoves I own. I took it back to MEC and they gave me refund! Optimus needs to fix the wobble, or they'll have liability issues!

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April 15, 2011

This is why I sent my first one back, cause of the wobble. However, the heat control was great on my first one, not so much on my second. I am waiting to see how the 3rd goes...

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Rating for this product: 5

Work of art

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January 25, 2011

This thing is work of art. Flawless operation on the colorado trail in the summertime. Better than my gas stove at home for flame adjustability

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I have a 25 year old Optimus backpacking stove that uses a propane/butane

I have a 25 year old Optimus backpacking stove that uses a propane/butane cartiridge that has to be punctured by the stove "nipple". Will my old stove work with the replacement canister for this stove?

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July 10, 2009

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Your old Optimus will only work with the "puncture" type fuel canister. The Crux uses only the screw-on, Lindal valve type: standard fuel canister. Unfortunately the two are not compatible.

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August 25, 2009

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Rating for this product: 4

very convenient and tiny

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August 5, 2009

we really love this little stove. it heats up really fast and did the trick just right! it doesn't hold a ton of weight, but that is to be expected since it's so small.

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Rating for this product: 5

Stove useless withoug gas

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June 19, 2010

I'm sure I'll love my Optimus Cruxlite stove. Only problem is that all I have is the stove. Can't find gas for it anywhere.

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March 30, 2011

The Optimus Crux stove uses ONLY Lindal valve (screw-on) type, compressed gas, fuel canisters made by @ least nine manufacturers including Brunton, Coleman, Jetboil, Kovea, Markill, MSR, Optimus, Primus, Snow Peak, etc. These canisters can be found in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, western Europe, Japan, & Korea.

With this being said, you shouldn't have any problems finding fuel for your Crux/Cruxlite @ any backpacking store & even Walmart.

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Write your question here... I own this stove and it is having

Write your question here... I own this stove and it is having some issues. I atttach it to the gas canister and turn the valve and nothing happens. I have hooked the same gas can to my MSR reactor and it works fine. I am wondering if I need to buy some repalcemnt parts or what. I have not used the stove for a really long time, but only used it once. What do you recommend i do. it is a nice stove just dones't have any gas flow.

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April 1, 2009

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I've never had any problems with my Crux so I'm trying to trouble shoot your stove.

Make sure the the base, male extension, of the fuel tube is intact. This is where it penetrates the canister & opens the canister's Lindal valve to receive the gas. If it is bent or broken, you'll unfortunately have to replace your stove.

Remove the rubber o-ring & inspect it carefully. Make sure it is pliable & doesn't have any cracks. Replace it if you see anything suspect. Return it to it's proper position.

Make sure the fuel chamber @ the metal ring locking mechanism, in the folding position is clear & unobstructed. Fold & unfold the stove a number of times to get a positive "click" & make sure the metal ring moves all the way back up & locks in place.

Change fuel canisters.

Hopefully something above will fix your problem.

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July 2, 2009

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Rating for this product: 5

Super Great Stove

By: Backcountry.com Employee
November 9, 2010

The optimums crux is an amazing little guy. Its small, light weight, but yet very powerful.I can boil water within a few minutes with this baby. One of my favorite piece of gear It runs on Iso-Butane therefor its not recommended for very high altitudes. Look for white gas stoves for higher altitudes. Definitely a must

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Rating for this product: 5

Best stove ever.

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July 23, 2008

Non-Experts need not apply.

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This stove is built more solidly that the MSR pocket rocket. I was able to boil a 16 oz of water in under 3 min. It was about 40 degrees and at 1700ft. more...

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By: moroni November 26, 2007

The five main things I like about this stove is:
1. 12,000 BTU's,
2. The way it folds down & fits into the bottom of your fuel canister,
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Material:
steel 
Boil Time:
3 min 
Simmer:
no 
Auto Ignition:
no 
Windscreen:
no 
Heat Reflector:
no 
Parts Kit:
yes 
Cleaning Tool:
yes 
Fuel Bottle or Canister Included:
no 
Stuff Sack:
yes 
Hard Case:
no 
Weight:
3.3 oz 
Manufacturer Warranty:
1 Year