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Just trying to get an idea of the fit/baggyness of this jacket. Can you tell me what size jacket are you wearing in "the ordinary Skier" movie? I'm very similar in height/weight to you, 155 lbs, 5'9", 33" waist and 40" chest. Based on the sizing chart I was thinking Medium, but maybe bordering on a large, would be good to have a visual perspective though. Thanks heaps!
Is it really too thin? I saw the jacket in a local shop, but just size large, I need a small, but it didn't look thin compared to others I've seen as well, TNF, Arcteryx and Patagonia goretex pro-shell 3L. I saw many reviews either here or other places saying that you are gonna rip it easily on the first days if you go off piste of have a bad fall. I thought this 3l goretex pro-shell were supposed to be kinda bomb proof... is is just this one that is bad quality? oakley is supposed to be a high end brand, I have the sethmo fleece and the quality is great, checked the jacket on local shop and doesn't look different than the others... I'm assuming the pants are made using exactly the same material...
Marcel - the quality on the Sethmo is top notch and on par with other 3L goretex shells, I don't think you'll have issues. If the jacket rips on you when it shouldn't, send it back to Backcountry and we'll be sure you are taken care of.
This is one of my favorite to date. Gore-Tex Pro Shell so light, breathable, water and windproof. Tested in the Chamonix Valley. Nice chest and hand pockets for cameras, radio, and phone. Right chest pocket has an access zipper to your inner layer so it works in conjunction with the modular fleece layer chest pocket for things you want to keep safe and warm. 2 way zipper to help with other inner access so you don't have to need to take you jacket off. Shirt will connect to pants to make a one piece. Bill has a wire in the visor to help shape it. Packable as well! Photo of Nate Wallace on Mallory in Chamonix.
The fit is a regular fit. The suit your talking about from your suit is loose fit I believe. Most people stay with the same size. Going one size up would give you more room.
Hi Seth & guys from BC.com: About the size of this jacket & the pants: I´m using 2009-10 Oakley Pro series jacket & pants (orange jack - plumb pants) in MEDIUM size. I´m 5´10´´ - 180lbs. The fit perfect. Should L stick to the same size or go bigger? I´ve read that the fit has change. Thank you!
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Can you actually use all the sethmo fleece, softshell and pro-shell layers... could you also add the down jacket all at the same time for the ultra cold days? I`m assuming the fleece and pro-shell are not enough unless you are skiing on spring day, would adding the softshell be enough or you would need something else?
I use a base layer and the fleece with this jacket everyday during the winter. On cold days I add the down jacket to that combo. When hiking I shed those mid layers to the backpack and open arm vents and main zipper for comfort. The pieces are designed around layering. You just need to learn what works for you on those certain situations. Not sure why the base layer is not sold here. The soft shell is more for spring and warmer days where you would layer appropriately for those days with that piece as well.
Fleece would probably get you through most active winter days of skiing, if however you run cold like me, I'll often wear a down sweater under my shell for cold days riding the lift. The softshell won't really address the insulating issues. I'd stick to down or fleece for that.
hey do you know why the cinder orange on the oakley site has a black zipper http://www.oakley.com/products/sethmo-jacket/411500OEUEUA-79T and you guys have the one with the white zipper? Are there different models of the same jacket? I know it's a minor difference but it kinda changes the look.
All I can say is it may have been a sample on the Oakley website. All the ones I have seen have white zippers. I'm pretty sure all the photos on backcountry.com website are taken by backcountry.com.
I posted an updated review on the Sethmo pants...long story short they ripped on the first day. Two small holes in the thigh area and I can't figure out how they got there no falls or snag that I remember. So much for the durability of these gortex proshells. I'm sending them back to backcountry.
Since the pants didn't hold up I'm really nervous about the jacket holding up the rest of the season. I ride up in Summit County CO, mainly the resorts and side country, some pow hunting in the trees, some hiking here and there. I bought this jacket and pants because of the versatility of the design in weather conditions, but the material is so thin it seems that it can and does rip real easy. I'm really concerned that I'm going to put a hole in this jacket the first time I snag a branch. I wouldn't dare put a sharp ski or board edge on this jacket. The material is so thin that if you hold it up to a light it penetrates quite a bit. It feels about a little bit thicker than potato chip bag material. It seems more like gortex paclite than proshell in my opinion. I knew this when I saw it at a local shop but I figured it's pro-shell so it has to be bomb proof right? Not very confident now. I can't send it back because I didn't buy it from backcountry...decided to go with a cheaper price at a different retailer. Bad call, pay more for the guarantee.
Overall I love the cut of the jacket and loose but not baggy, orange color looks sharp, the jacket and pant interface is great. Snap or zip in and you are about totally sealed. Unfortunately, Oakley sacrificed lightness for durability in my opinion. It does feel like you are almost wearing nothing, but this jacket provides zero insulation capability. 0-25 degrees and you have to wear warm multiple layers. I had a down jacket and patagonia cap 2 base and was a little chilled at times. I will put my polartec on as well next time, but now you are talking about about $250+ of additional layering to stay warm up top...but it is just a shell, so I can live with that. Other things to note, it could use better interior pockets. It only has one that barely fits my iPhone and my headphone jack fits in it awkwardly. I'd like to see another interior pocket on the other side to hold balaclava or whatever. A forearm pocket would be good too along with a pass holder somewhere. Mesh vents would have been have been nice as well. The hood works with a wire brim but it barely fits my Smith Vantage helmet (size medium). It's pretty tight.
The waterproofing is what you expect. I took it out in cold rainy downpour and it just shed water like you would expect. My concern it will rip and it doesn't matter how waterproof it is, if it rips your going to get wet. We'll see how it goes for the rest of the season but for a $500 jacket I feel I shouldn't have to worry about rips. If you ride open bowl powder all day, never fall, or rub a tree then I guess your good...but there isn't much powder around Summit County right now. I'm thinking I should have gone gortex softshell...
Took it out last weekend in 10-15 degrees, sunny, and no wind. Had a down jacket, base layer and was still a little cold. This jacket is so thin it has zero insulation capability at all. Super light minimal shell that can be used in winter and summer. I think if I had worn my polartec mid with the down jacket I would've been fine.
It is just Gore-tex Pro shell, so it is not insulated. Great overall barrier to the elements, but I would probably have a wool base layer, wool/fleece zip neck sweater. On super cold days I might wear a light down vest on top of the inner layers.
Good looking coat. and proshell will last forever.
This is one of my favorite to date. Gore-Tex Pro Shell so light, breathable, water and windproof. Tested in the Chamonix Valley. Nice chest and hand more...
I posted an updated review on the Sethmo pants...long story short they ripped on the first day. Two small holes in the thigh area and I can't figure more...