MSR Hubba Tent: 1-Person 3-Season - 2009 BCS

It helps if you face the fly towards a breeze. If it is not raining, you can leave both of the doors unstaked and opened.

No it doesn't have any special vent. For increased ventilation, you can fasten open the vestibule door (as shown in the picture). Or, for maximum ventilation, if there's no rain in the forecast you can pitch it without the fly.

I can only speak for the Hubba, not the HP but I have used mine many times over the past year and a half. I cannot even begin to tell you how happy I am with its waterproofing. One time I was even forced to pitch the tent in the pouring rain on a ground that was like a sponge it was so saturated and in the morning not even a drop came in.

I'm 5'10" and can sleep with my 70L pack inside with me, but it's noticeably in there :)

as for the rain, yeah, i doubt you could set it up without getting it wet inside

not inthe tent but in the hub

i don't think you could set this thing up in the rain and not get the interior wet. I agree with everyone else though, cause this thing is built as solidly as they come. You'd be hard pressed to find a better designed 1 person tent.

tempted by your CO2, keeping out of the rain, just happened to fly in there and can't find there way out. there are many reasons.

The only way i know to keep the flys away is not to take a tent where there are going to be flys. So you have two options: 1 don't take the tent, or don't go hiking. Next thing you will be comlaining about the dirt on the bottom of the tent.

You have GOT to be kidding? This is the crap you worry about? They are their for protection from the elements and also (as mentioned already) likely that they cannot escape. Is that a big deal? The mesh is between you and them so you're not going to be bothered by them. Sheesh. It's called the "OUTDOORS" and stuff like this goes on. On second thought, hand in your gear and go stay in a hotel.

Yes, I've noticed the same thing with my Hubba Hubba, and other tents that I've slept in. I suspect it's the same thing as when they get in the car and can't find their way out...they're just trapped. They come looking for the nice smelly human and then get stuck. Keeping one side of the fly unzipped and rolled back seems to make it easier for a few to escape, but they still collect at the top. Not sure I have a solution for you...I've never really considered it a problem, since they're on one side of the mesh and I'm on the other.

The weight listed actually is the minimum weight, or 'trail weight' often seen by other manufacturers. What this refers to is the weight of the poles, fly, and canopy (or main body of the tent). This weight does not include the stakes (some manufacturers include more stakes than others which doesn't make this a fair weight comparison...you should ALWAYS bring stakes to stake down your tent whether it be free standing or not). The reason manufacturers use this weight, along with the packaged weight, is so the consumer can compare the different weights consistently from one manufacturer to the next. A good example of this is a tent that might include a big, hefty owners manual that you would never take with you on a backpacking trip verses another tent on the sales shelf that has only a 3-fold pamphlet as the owners manual. It would be totally unfair to say the one with the big manual is heavier...therefore there are the two weights listed in most tent's specs. Again they are packaged weight and minimum, or trail, weight.

This weight does not include the footprint which is generally about 6 ounces. Therefore I would tack on 6 ounces to the total of the minimum weight to get a pretty good ballpark of how much the tent will weigh in your pack. Footprints are seldom included with the tent and are bought separately...a footprint is highly recommended because it will keep your tent investment in pristine condition. Footprints aren't necessarily needed for extra waterproofness however. They are there mainly to protect the floor from dirt, rocks, pine gum, etc. It's much less expensive to replace a footprint than the main body of the tent if the floor gets trashed...

I have to disagree. I love my MSR Needles and have not had a single issue with their structural integrity

When I bought the hubba, it came with MSR's needle stakes - which broke on the first outing. I highly recommend getting the groundhogs, they're virtually weightless and have handled some *serious* abuse. Great stakes.

There are a couple of key differences.-The HP is a better tent if you are using it in colder conditions due to less mesh. The Hubba is almost completely mesh. While the HP the mesh is only in the roof and part of the door.-The fly material on the HP is also much nicer. It is the most expensive material that MSR uses in tents. It is lighter then the fly on the Hubba. Also all of the stress points are reinforced and welded to make it stronger.-The HP is also 4 oz lighter.