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MSR made its Fuel Bottle from a single piece of aluminum and added an air-tight seal so there's less leaking and cracking. The Fuel Bottle works with the threaded pumps on your MSR stove. Holes in the shaft of the bottle cap prevent spills and provide more controlled pouring capabilities. You can store and transport your MSR fuel pump in the Fuel Bottle once the bottle is depressurized.
MSR WhisperLite International Multi-Fuel Stove great stove!!! Too bad MSR still using the same crappy plastic pump the last 20-years. Look for same stove with metal pump in Optimus line and use Optimus fuel bottles.
Fortunately it isn't the same plastic pump. About 4 years ago Cascade Designs re-designed the pump (badly in need of an update) with all new materials and inovative durability. Instead of an ABS-type plastic of the old pumps, the new pump now is constructed of fiber-reinforced composite material that is much lighter than metal and just as durable. We looked at every material, tested every material, put each material through torture test both in the lab and the real world. We found that the material used for the current MSR pump consistently performed the best, was lighter, and was the most reliable in extreme conditions. If you compare metal pumps from other manufacturers to the current MSR pump, you would immediately notice the weight difference first. After use, you would discover that it doesn't bind like metal does and how much smoother the pump action is. After several years of use (if you've avoided melting it as a result of human error) you would notice that it's still going strong. Again, melting is the only real disadvantage over metal pumps. If you have a Whisperlite International with an old pump, I would highly recommend updating the pump with a new one.
My 20 oz bottle seems to be just right for the 2-4 day backpacking trips I take with between 2-4 people, cooking 2x daily. Last trip to Ramona Falls with 4 people including dumping some fuel on wet wood to try to start a fire left us with about 4-8 oz of fuel left.
If you're using MSR superfuel, be careful. Jose almost singed his eyebrows from lighting wet wood doused with white gas. It was quite the fireball.
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I have 3 bottles, one 11 oz and two 20 oz. I am using the MSR WhisperLite stove, and the 11 oz will last about 3 days if your cooking for two people. And the 20 oz will go about a week for two people. The cap has a rubber O-ring that seals the bottle from leaking. So no need to over tighten the cap, just give it a good snugging and your good to go.
I can't open the child proof cap, I push down and turn counterclockwise, but it won't open, even if I push down with it on the ground, and use a pliers handle to turn. It turns a little ways, but won't release from the bottle.
It is indeed a child safety cap. Run it under hot water for up to a minute, push down and twist. If it does not work, but a stick through the cap for leverage, and have someone else push down that way you can put all of your force into twisting.
Hand it to the kids, they always find a way to override that sort of stuff. Sounds like you did everything you were supposed to. Try this though- if you're at home, try to find something longer than the pliers handle like a long screwdriver or a dowel or something similar that you can slip through the cap's eye and bear down on with the palms of both hands. Something that won't break or bend. Set it on the ground between your feet and then push down evenly and try to turn it. In camp, use something like a good, solid x-peg stake, trekking pole tip, or a strong stick. That should do it, even if the threads are impossibly crossed. If not,except for cutting it off, I'm out of ideas. When you finally get it off, throw it away and use the stock cap. Tell the kids that if they even touch the bottle, they'll die instantly, or if they don't know how to read yet, show them the writing on the bottle and pretend to translate some arbitrary part of it into an ominous and terrifying warning. You would be surprised at just how effectively "childproof" both these techniques can be...my kids still have phobias about white gas and wild mushrooms.
Mary, I have had this problem before especially when it is cold out. I seriously had to bang the crap out of this thing on a picnic table to loosen the lid and after some serious down pressure and twisting till my fingers hurt it popped off. Take a look by angling the the bottle verticly. Make sure the threads are aligned and not cross threated. If they are trying hitting the lid with a hammer. Keep trying!
These bottles will last until you loose them- there's no way of breaking them. Also cheaper than other brands. The cap has a big loop for clipping it to your backpack and also two small holes inside to handle the fuel without spilling. In Aconcagua the porters use mules to get your stuff to BC, this is your best option, no leaks at all. Hope this helps.
I have all three sizes and I like the 11oz one if im just going to be making lunch on a hike or maybe lunch and dinner on an overnight. If im going to be doing much more than that ill go for the 20oz I cant say as I really use the 30oz much...
I have many MSR fuel bottles but the 11oz. (small) is often times clutch in getting every last drop of fuel burned when using it with and MSR stove. The smaller size allows the fuel to sit higher above the fuel pump. For example think of putting 8oz of water in a 16oz glass (it is half full) now put 8oz of water in a 10oz. cup and it is now 80% full. This is really help full to burn every last drop. What I do for backpacking is carry the middle size (20oz) and the small (11oz) alongside. There are several big advantages,
#1 If you have one fuel bottle and you were to spill it or puncture it you are totally out of fuel. #2 You and your partner can each carry a little in case you were to be separated and need a little fire starter. #3 The small can make it easier to burn every last drop #4 If you go for a 3 night hike the 20oz is a perfect size, so just consider the small 11oz size your back up fuel for emergency or weather related use.
I have used my MSR XGK EX in 17 different countries and at very high altitudes with white gas, diesel, kerosene, unleaded, and fuel with things floating in it (nothing like South American desperation). I swear by this stove it is one of my most reliable and trusted pieces of gear.
Looks BA and it works great, doesn't leak, doesn't puncture even when dropped 15ft onto rocks when full. Must have for any backpacker. i have two 30 oz bottles for expeditions. Great buy!
im going on an 8 day backpacking trip in killarney provincial park and i have the msr whisperlite stove and i have know clue how much fuel to bring. I plan on buying the 20oz bottle, and there will be 4 people coming on the trip and we will be cooking with the stove at least 2 meals a day. how much fuel bottle should i bring??
I'd probably bring 3 20 oz bottles between the three of you just to be on the safe side -- I know that I had planned on using my stove for just cooking on a few camping trips, but it ended up being used to boil water for makeshift shower wipes, making drinking water, and using some of the fuel to light a fire (great way to create a fireball and singe your eyebrows!). The weight shouldn't be that big of an issue if you're careful about packing the rest of your stuff and distribute your gear thoughtfully.
Lot's of variables in that one, but I would take at least 2/20oz bottles for that amount of people and time. Even an extra 11oz for contingency's sake and to use for the actual cooking wouldn't be a bad thing (using the other 2 for just storage and transfer). I would probably figure on using my stove for a minimum of about 20 minutes per day x 8 = at least 160 minutes. The WhisperLite, optimally, will give you 110 minutes per 20oz. If you go for 30 minutes per day, your fuel needs theoretically go to 240 minutes and more than just that 40oz you're carrying. Fine line. Worst case scenario- you might come home with some fuel left over. Ideally- you won't risk running out on day 6 or 7, and, you can use a larger pot so that everyone can eat at the same time (more water means longer boil times). Here's a few things to consider besides just how much fuel you'll need- The 30oz bottles are sort of a pain to cook with, an extra bottle for backup/unforeseen spills or whatever is a good thing to have if eating depends on it, dividing up the weight more evenly is always appreciated, etc...
If it's a factor, don't forget that airlines will not allow you to carry full fuel bottles, ever, and will only let you carry used ones if you cleaned out all traces of fuel, leave the cap off, and declare it.
These are great. Very durable, a number of sizes, and lightweight. I have the small size for short weekend trips and the large for week long trips. I use about 2/3 of a bottle of the small 11oz on a weekend trip making 5-6 meals. I have had serious problems with overtightening the cap. I had a scare when I couldn't get the cap off and I was 25+ miles from the car. Don't over tighten and you'll be fine.
great container. I had a numbskull moment and cross threaded it and didn't screw it down all the way (totally my fault) and it didn't ruin the cap or bottle but it did leak in my food bag. Learn from my lesson and make sure it turns at least 5 times and not just 2. Test for seal before putting back in bag. The bottle is great * some times the user isn't.
probably too big for the amount of trail cooking that i do, but gets the job done. the new safetylid is a little awkward in my opinion, but this thing definitely takes a beating and works well.
MSR makes a great product. This is no different. Although it is something as simple as an aluminum bottle, it is important that you get something that is made well. This bottle doesn't leak, is VERY sturdy, and you can put cool stickers all over it! I wouldn't recommend any other fuel bottle.
uuhhh...the 11 oz bottle is so cute!!! cant really say anything bad about any of these 3 bottles..they are all awesome and well made, durable and deffinatly the fuel bottle I want to take out with me.
What can you say, it just works and its light. I have 2 20oz and 2 10oz. I find that I use the smaller ones more with my WhisperLite just because I'm not cooking for an army. But always good to have multiple choices!
The 30 oz fuel bottle lasted me the entire weekend boiling water for 13 people on an MSR Dragonfly in 10 degree weather and still had some left in the bottom.
Hi, I am well familiar with gas stoves, but im moving to my first liquid fuel stove and i have a question about these bottles and fuel storage.
When i am not on the trail/hiking, is it best to keep my fuel (white gas/shellite) in the MSR bottle, or in the original plastic jug it comes in. I have heard that (when top is off) this fuel evaporates quickly.
Whats some tips on storage for this stuff? Will 5L last 6months in storage after i've used 1L already?
Agree with the others that it all depends on storage. Was cleaning out my parent's basement about 5 years ago and found my dad's old camping gear -- old 2 burner Coleman stove and a case of white gas cans... even had the original dated (1976!!) receipt in the box. Thought I'd give it a shot, and sure enough both the stove and fuel worked perfectly. Still use the stove for car camping and am about half way through that original case :) As long as it's sealed in a cool/dry environment, the stuff can literally last a lifetime.
Second on Jeff's experiences and observations...original container or fuel bottle, as long as the caps are tight. I also like to make sure the bottles are upright when they're stored full.
I have to admit in many years of usage, I've never had white gas go bad even after eight years of storage but I've never purchased white gas in a plastic jug. Mine has always come in a metal gallon can & it works just fine, in fact I haven't noticed any difference between it & new fuel. It will store equally well in either container however the gas will evaporate with a loosely fitting cap so make sure it is tight!
These bottles are sturdy and well-made. They take a beating, and still do not leak. Among other uses, the loop in the lid allows you to open lids that have been over-tightened (by putting a branch through the loop to get more torque). The little bottle is good for shorter trips, while the larger ones can be used for larger (or more cooking-intensive) trips.
don t screw top tight in the serria nevadas and climb to altidude in super hot temps without letting pressure out once and a while or the container will fail at its weakest point, the cap, or valve and blow your thinker off,or what ever else.
most MSR stoves take white gas, available from gas stations and camping stores, i've even seen it in grocery stores and targets camping section. Coleman is the most commercially available supplier.
No, it's just the bottle. Put just about any type of fuel (white gas, kerosene,unleaded, diesel..etc) paired with a multi-fuel stove and you're good to go. You can find these fuels almost anywhere (target, hardware stores, gas stations). Be sure to know if your stove requires a specific type of fuel.
I just purchased a 2009 Harley Davidson, Sportster Custom XL. During the delivery process my sale rep informed me that there is only a low fuel indicator light. This being a new Harley and I was not sure of what the MPG's are for the city/highway I need some peace of mind knowing I wouldn't run out of gas. I seached the web to find BackCountry site and also realized this site was cheaper than the HD dealer and other sites, to include, having the larger 33 oz. MSR Fuel Bottles with free shipping. Now I carry three of them in my saddle bags with no worries about running out of gas!!!!!
Short of runing it over with a tank, these are almost impervious to damage. I have the big one since we like to cook and use it all the time. Paired with whisperlite international stove is a great combo. Been burning Coleman fuel without issue.
Used this to carry Coleman fuel for an old Optimus 8R. Even in the trunk of the car for 8 hours at work, there was no leaks. Couldn't say the same for the stove. Well designed and seems real strong.
Concerned about the safety tops and the ease of their removal based on other reviews, but they seem to work just fine. Got the medium size as a balance between capacity and ease of pressurization with the fuel pump. No problems!
You should never have any problems with this bottle and it should last you as long as you need it to. These things are basically indestructible under normal circumstances and I have never had any leaks or problems. Great product at a great price!!
I use these 30 to 33 oz. MSR fuel containers to safely store and transport 2-stroke gas mix on my Golden Eagle converted Mongoose bicycle. These containers provide me with additional fuel capacity and range.. Going 30 plus MPH on flat ground without pedeling is a blast.
Got all three of them: the 11 oz, the 22 oz and the 33 oz. The 33 oz (or one liter) is good for motorcycle trips, as you can fill it from the tank if you have a couple of feet of vinyl tubing, or pour it back into the gas tank if you run out of gas on the road--that might get you about 10-15 miles closer to the next gas station. I got the 11 oz bottle for backpacking, but seriously, nowadays I think my Whisperlite International stove is too heavy for 3-season weekend, or even week-long, backpacking trips. (It's still a good winter stove, though.) Got the 22 oz bottle just to complete the set... They're all good, rugged fuel bottles, and the Whisperlite stove is good and rugged, too. Come to think of it, everything MSR makes is good, rugged and reliable.
I carried the 33 oz bottle from SLC to Hawaii to trek along the Na Pali coast on Kauii in 2007. It was empty and stowed in checked baggage; there was no problem flying either direction.
Oh, yeah...and you better be sure they're good and washed and not smelling of fuel, and not capped, if you want to try to take them somewhere on an airplane. That's, if they'll allow them on at all, these days...
These bottles are fantastic! Strong and can take a beating. They works well and I have used them for carrying white gas, chainsaw bar oil, and gasoline.
With the variety of sizes you can pick one that is right for your trip. This allows you to cut down on weight and space as necessary. If you get the small ones you can also split them up to divide the load. Extremely durable and are leak proof. You can through them in your bag with your clothes and not have to worry about fuel leaking all over them. They don't expand and contract due to temperature change like the containers you buy the fuel in either. All-in-all well worth the money even if you don't have an MSR stove to use with them. If you have a different stove that requires white gas you can transport in these. Just bring a small funnel to refill your stove.
I mean, really, you fill it with gas, put the pump in and let'er rip. It works. It doesn't leak. Rinses out easily enough if you want to try smuggling it on board a plane.
I've been really happy with this fuel bottle, it does everything that a fuel bottle should do, and didn't break the bank. There was one occasion on a backcountry ski trip when this bottle was kicking around the bottom of my pack and I could smell a little bit of white gas. Lesson learned, keep it on the outside or be positive that it's upright and you're good to go!
MSR WhisperLite International Multi-Fuel Stove great stove!!! Too bad MSR still using the same crappy plastic pump the last 20-years. Look for same stove more...
My 20 oz bottle seems to be just right for the 2-4 day backpacking trips I take with between 2-4 people, cooking 2x daily. Last trip to Ramona Falls with more...
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By: Jason Livingston
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Fortunately it isn't the same plastic pump. About 4 years ago Cascade Designs re-designed the pump (badly in need of an update) with all new materials and inovative durability. Instead of an ABS-type plastic of the old pumps, the new pump now is constructed of fiber-reinforced composite material that is much lighter than metal and just as durable. We looked at every material, tested every material, put each material through torture test both in the lab and the real world. We found that the material used for the current MSR pump consistently performed the best, was lighter, and was the most reliable in extreme conditions. If you compare metal pumps from other manufacturers to the current MSR pump, you would immediately notice the weight difference first. After use, you would discover that it doesn't bind like metal does and how much smoother the pump action is. After several years of use (if you've avoided melting it as a result of human error) you would notice that it's still going strong. Again, melting is the only real disadvantage over metal pumps. If you have a Whisperlite International with an old pump, I would highly recommend updating the pump with a new one.
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