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When Mountain Hardwear introduced the Men’s WindStopper Tech Jacket, it was revolutionary. Fleece outside with a Gore WindStopper membrane inside, this was one of the first softshells on the market. Thanks to get-it-right-the-first-time design, the WindStopper Tech Jacket has remained virtually unchanged, and it's still a best-seller thanks to it's classic looks and dependable performance.

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Great layering jacket.

  • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer

This jacket is amazing for layering, or stand alone on those windy fall days. In the dead of winter I usually wanted more insulation, but I have worn layers underneith this jacket, and gone ice climbing or snowboarding. Great jacket!

Disclaimer: I tested this jacket for Gore.

Best looking all around jacket.

    I use the Alchemy Jacket from Mountain Hardware as my everyday jacket. It looks good and is has a comfortable fix. The inner lining is nice and soft. In fact the entire jacket is soft. I am a Gore-Tex Mountain Tech and received this Gore-Tex soft-shell jacket to test. Since I received this jacket over a year ago, I’ve been using it almost every day. It is not too warm, so spring and fall, and even cool summer morning I put this on before heading out to work. In the winter in all weather except the coldest and wettest, this is the jacket I use. Good looks and a great feel.

    kind of heavy

      I have had this jacket for about a year and still really like it but it has its limitations... it is good as a around town jacket or single pitch climbing day jacket but beyond that it is too heavy for backpacking or long trips. I do love the pit zips

      Old vs. New, 2nd opinion

        I've been nitpicking over a jacket to replace a 13yr old Windstopper Tech (made in the USA!), as you can tell by some of my posts on here already. I have purchased both new and old versions (plus my OLD old version that I already owned), and thought I'd provide my 2 cents as someone who is pretty obsessive (both are size sm, black. My original grill jacket is a medium, and I just never quite grew in to it like my parents had hoped haha. I'm 5'7, 140 lbs). 90% of the time, this jacket is a normal everyday jacket for me, and only maybe an optimistic 10% of the time will it actually be doing anything technical like backpacking or camping. I wear it all the way through the winter in NYC with just a lined hoodie underneath.

        My overall consensus is the same as the other person who did a comparison: the new version is a better technical piece, but only marginally. And that margin shrinks if you aren't engaging in high-abrasion activities like rock climbing. For those still on the fence and looking to lock down a jacket that they don't have regrets over, here are all my observations:

        Fit - Tie: This is pretty close. I feel like the new one fits a tad bit closer to the body in the arms and lower torso, which I like. There are extra panels that go from the back of the shoulder/underarm down to the bottom, and they have a very slight taper to them, whereas the old jacket just has one giant panel that covers the entire back from arm to arm. The fit benefit from those panels in the new version is so slight that I don't think it's a big sway one way or the other. The new jacket has a stiffer feel from the softshell, the older one fits loose like a sweatshirt. The new jacket is 3.5cm longer at the front zipper and all that length is added on below the pockets, so it comes down further than your belt now rather than falling right at the belt-line.

        Pit zips - Tie: The review on here that says the old ones are "25%" larger is a huge exaggeration. According to a ruler, the old pit zips are 2.5cm larger. The new version has a double zipper so you can really fine-tune your pit comfort. I say it's a tie because your pits won't notice that additional 2.5cm on the old, and as far as the new double-zipper, are you really going to fine-tune your vent that much? I sure won't. I'm going to zip it open, and closed. Maybe sometimes halfway open. Oh my! But it'll always be from the same side. I guess it gives you the choice which side I prefer to zip/unzip from and can concentrate my zippers there.

        Pockets - Old: this dead horse has long been beaten, the old one has an internal chest pocket. (personal note: I stopped using my internal pocket on my old jacket for a couple weeks to see if I could live with out it. I didn't think I could. Sometime around this week I forgot I even had an internal pocket. So personally, I'm not using this as a criteria to decide. But you might). Other pockets are identical; the hand pockets are still mounted nice and high so they are accessible/out of the way of a pack hip belt.

        Draw string - New: The old version has the draw string sheathed in the same nylon that's on the shoulders. On the new one, the drawstring is more on the inside along the bottom hem of the jacket, right along the inside of the bottom of the fleece. It feels put together better. That nylon got pretty brittle and eroded away in a few parts on my old jacket, but 0 parts of the fleece wore through, so I have more confidence in the fleece holding up over time.

        Collar - New: The new collar fits nice and snug with a soft microfleece liner and a chin guard. The old collar is loose around your neck and sucks at keeping the wind out. And to answer the question I posed earlier, yes, the new collar folds down just fine.

        Cuffs - Tie: With bare wrists, I find next to no difference in the cuffs. I thought the new cuffs would bunch up with a hoodie on, but they work just fine. The old cuffs ("powerstretch") were accused of stretching out and losing their snugness. If that's true, it's pretty minimal, cause my 13yr-old powerstretch cuffs on my old-old jacket are still fine. I don't ever pull my jacket sleeves up on my forearms, so there's that I guess.

        Waist - New: The waist fits a lot more snug, maybe thanks to those tapered panels along the sides. Maybe you like a loose waist, and untucked sheets when you're at a hotel. I like being tucked in.

        Lining - Depends: The mesh linings are identical, but the new version also has microfleece under the areas that have the softshell (shoulders and down along the top of the arms). Next to skin, the new version feels nice and cozy. With a sweatshirt on, I never felt particularly hindered at all once the jacket was on, but getting in and out of the sleeves the microfleece presents a bit more friction. That microfleece is definitely warmer, and more durable than the mesh (experience note: first areas that broke down in my jacket were the mesh lining in spots that, on the new version, would have that microfleece. Once that mesh came apart in spots after many years, then the windstopper followed shortly after).

        Durability - New: Higher impact material on the outside and the inside along the shoulders and arms will certainly add some toughness. Zippers feel great on both, slightly sturdier on the new one. Also the way the draw string is sewn in, and the newer jacket just has an overall sturdier feel to it. I am weary of the double-zipper on the pits on the new one, but that's just from an assumption. That said, my old-old jacket made it through everyday use + backpacking trips through the Rockies + a host of other abuse, and the outside never broke down, not even on the shoulders or elbows. It was the lining that gave way and left the windstopper vulnerable to damage. After a decade.

        Warmth - New: The softshell adds even more weather resistance, yes, but I think the real difference is the microfleece along the arms. That, plus the more snug collar and waist, and added length in the torso too keep drafts from coming in around the belt area.

        Weight/packability - Old: The old jacket compresses more and is some slight amount of weight lighter.

        Subtlety - Old: Maybe only matters if this is your "around-towner," but the black old is much more discreet. The nylon blends pretty well with the fleece and it doesn't look transformer-y. The softshell material on the new one stands out against the black fleece. Both jackets have MH logos on the left chest, back of the collar, and "Windstopper" embroidered on the wrist of the right sleeve. New guy also has a MH logo on the left bicep.

        That's 3 ties, 3 wins for the old version, 5 wins for new, and one that's personal preference. Overall, I'd say if you want it to just break the wind but mostly let your base layer(s) do the insulating, want a more subtle look, and are really in need of that internal pocket, you'll be happy with the old version. If you want to sacrifice casual style for techy style complete with an additional MH logo, you want a jacket that will both break the wind but also provide some coziness if you're just wearing a t-shirt, and you want the one that will deal with serious winter weather better, then go with the new one. As of writing this, I'm on the brink of moving to a warmer climate, so I don't yet know which jacket I'm going to keep. Ah, decisions. Either one will be a great companion for many years

        Over all very nice review, much more detail then mine. However, you are mistaken about the length of the pit zips. On the old jacket they were 14 inches, the new jacket has 11.5 inch pit zips. Check with mountain hardware if doubt this.

        I love this jacket....

          I bought this at Dick's Sporting Goods for $59.98 and it's probably the best investment I've ever made (that or the other $450.00 worth of MH stuff I got at 66-75% off from the clearance rack).

          Wind, no problem. Warmth, again not a problem. Durability, I haven't had it long enough to say how it'll stand the test of time, but it's got a soft shell material in all the right places.

          When I read reviews on this jacket post purchase, I noticed all the comments about an interior pocket being one of the design changes. I wouldn't mind one there, but to me it's not a deal breaker by any stretch of the imagination when you consider all the other great attributes. While the zipper would be nice, the only improvement I could realistically see is to have the soft shell material around the waist where straps would go.

          Bottomline, this jacket is going to be my go to jacket in a variety of conditions. I'm 6'0 and about 175, picked up a large. There's room for a fleece underneath and it should things go from bad to worse, I could toss my Typhoon over it for rain protection.

          Awesome jacket. Used it to climb Rainier and Kilimanjaro. Very warm great at eliminated cold wind. If it is really cold or wet I wear it under a North Face shell. My tech jacket is 11 years old and looks new despite heavy usage. It is the best jacket I have ever owned.

          Old Model vs. New

            The old model Jacket has much larger pit zips and a zip inside pocket, which is absent from the new model. In addition to Fleece the old model's shoulder and arms have a "Reinforcement fabric" made from something called Polyester Taslan. (seems to be a basic polyester fabric with little or no wind and water repellant qualities.) The Lining Fabric is Polyester Tricot Knit. The cuffs are "PowerStretch® cuffs" basically soft elastic cuffs. In my opinion, this jacket is the more attractive of the two for casual wear. The original list price is $185. This was not the jacket I received when ordering the Windstopper at Backcountry (always my 1st choice). I was very sorry upset about this. When my jacket came I immediately noticed the absence of the inside zip pocket (an essential feature for me as I carry a cell phone, music player and wallet (when I use this jacket as a casual as opposed to technical jacket.)The new model jacket, which I received, also had pit zips but they are about 25% percent smaller (which makes a surprisingly big difference in it's capacity to cool you off, which, in turn, makes for a narrower useful temperature range.) The neck, shoulder and arm reinforcement has been changed to Deflection soft shell panels. The neck is is more elastic for a slightly tighter fit. The interior is lined with Schoeller NanoSphere; which has some technical properties not present in the old lining.(such as being softer, naturally water, and oil resistant) The cuffs are Mountain hardware's Jersey cuffs with the soft snug interior inside and deflection material outside.
            When I wore it out once I was so upset with the smaller zips and lack of inside pocket; that I sent it back, with an angry, letter. I stated how the purchase of Mountain Hardware by Columbia has inevitably lead to a situation where they cheapen the jacket to appeal to the general public and increase sales. I searched the web and located the old model, and returned the new model. I am thrilled that I was still able to find it. I and am very happy with my NEW, old model Mountain Hardware Windstopper jacket.

            However, upon reflection it is possible that I shouldn't have been so critical of Mountain Hardware's model changes. I own the Alchemy and wear this when am putting my soft shell to technical use or when rain is expected, if I don't want to wear a hard shell. I bought the Windstopper, to be my everyday jacket from about 40 degrees to about 60; with only occasional technical use. However, if you are buying this jacket primarily as a soft-shell, or technical jacket, the new model is the superior piece.

            The new reinforcement material, Deflection soft shell, is vastly superior to the old Polyester Taslan in its water resistance and wind deflection capacities. This new material is exactly the same as as that which is used in the arm tops, front and rear or my Alchemy; and that jacket is basically bullet proof in no small part due to this fabric. The jersey cuffs are certainly better for all technical and most other purposes then the power stretch (and I don't think they will stretch out and lose elasticity over time as the power stretch will. (Only down side is if you use mostly Mountain Hardware gear most of their jackets have these cuffs and the don't stack great) The neck on the new jacket makes for a tighter fit, with no air getting in. The list price on this jacket is $20 less then the old one at $165.
            In conclusion the old Jacket is the one I prefer but that is based on my intended use, and the fact that I own other soft shell's. The old jacket looks better and is my favorite everyday jacket but the new jacket is cheaper and is a much more weather resistant soft shell. The new model is very well suited for technical use.

            No Contest!

              I got my first Mountain Hardwear WindStopper Tech Jacket as a sophomore in high school. i bought another one years later as I finally accepted the fact that i outgrew the 1st one. i kept the 1st one, and now the wife wears it.
              I wear mine almost daily in my commute in cold weather. i wore it over a hoodie as a winter coat as a freshman in college where the wind chill with 40mph gusts got down to -50. last time i went backpacking and the temps dipped into the single digits, i layered with a 100% cotton long sleeve tee, this jacket and my rain jacket in that order. I was sweating like it was 90 and humid within 3 miles. i shed the rain jacket when the precipitation stopped and was fine the rest of the day. i find the DWR coating from the manufacturer loses its usefulness after about 20 washes. i have had good luck with the nikwax sprays. that's all i have ever used. this jacket still amazes me. the underarm vents work wonders. i have tried many other brands of fleece and softshell type jackets including columbia, the north face, spyder and patagonia. i still take this one with me in the backcountry every time. pockets are well placed and plenty in number. never snagged a zipper. i would recommend storing the jacket with the waist cinches in a relaxed position and they will lose some of their elasticity over time. my 1st jacket is over ten years old and this is just starting to happen. if you have a long torso like me or plan on having many layers underneath this, i recommend going a size up. i am 6'3" and am now down to 204. i have the XL. i would like to mention that i recommend against the sapphire. my 1st one was sapphire and faded into purple after a lot of washing and many years. i have caught this jacket on sale at the end of certain seasons for around 110. But you should know i paid full retail both times and would do it again if this thing should ever wear out.

              Perfect for skiing

                Used my WindStopper Tech Jacket to go downhill skiing in Wisconsin in 20 degree weather. Had a merino wool crew, a cotton shirt and light wool sweater as underlayers, and I was completely toasty! My weekend host insisted I needed a heavy winter jacket for my trip to the ski hill, but I most certainly did not.

                jacket

                  I BOUGHT MY HUSBAND THE MOUNTAIN HARDWEAR WINDSTOPPER TECH JACKET FOR CHRISTMAS.I ORDERED THE LARGE BUT THE SLEEVES WERE TOO LONG,AND HE HAS LONG ARMS.SO I REORDERED THE MEDIUM HE LOVES IT.YOU CAN DRESS IT UP OR YOU CAN DRESS IT DOWN.JUST A GREAT JACKET

                  solid performer

                    i love this jacket, on extra cold days i wear this over a TNF 100 weight fleece or my patagonia R1 and it's the perfect combo. although, one thing, i got the black and the microfleece is like velcro for attracting every single bit of lint, dog hair, and bar smoke. just saying, other than though, this jacket is invaluable!!

                    Nice jacket, great fit

                      So far this is a nice jacket that had everything I was looking for; pit zips, comfortable, solid construction, and based on previous reviews...hopefully long wearing!

                      I'm 6'5" with 36/37 sleeve length - hard to fit. Size XL fits great w/o being crazy baggy. Torso length good and breaks below waist. For other brands I've had to do XXL to get sleeve length but it's massive everywhere else! Only con, and it's minor, is that side hand pocket zippers go down to close vs. up like on other brands. Possible to lose items from pocket if only half-zipped. Pockets have some depth, so maybe non-issue.

                      Use has been as layer around town in windy and wet conditions and it performs nicely. Haven't tried in mountains yet but think it would do well. Not as thick as my last Millet, but still warm.

                      Unhappy with coat

                        I was disappointed. My husband has owned 2 of the same jackets we ordered, and my self have owned one. I ordered his 3rd jacket from backcountry.com and it is not the same. The inner chest pocket is not there. It was my husband's Christmas present and he was very disappointed. That pocket is important to a hiker. I called your company on 12/29/10 to ask them about it. The tag on the coat even says "Interior zip pocket for keys, ID, other small items", and the picture on the web site shows the inner pocket. Your company has still not called me back. I will be returning the jacket if I am not contacted soon and ordering one from REI. It's very disappointing that my husband can't wear what I bought him for xmas.

                        Heidi, I believe the previous years model had the inside chest pocket but this new model does not. I have seen some of the older models still on sale at other sites and you might want to consider returning this and ordering one of those. You might also checkout www.geartrade.com which is a site that Backcountry.com sells their returned and unsold merchandise. Just make sure the seller is Backcountry and you will get the same great service as from this site. The only difference is that you cannot return items bought from there. Hope this helps.

                        My new GO TO

                          I bought the large and it seems to fit perfectly! I'm 5'11" and 185lbs. There is enough room for a sweater underneath but not too much room. I own the MH windstopper vest and it rocks, so I'm sure this jacket will be my all around three season buddy for years to come. I highly recommend buying from BC! Their customer service is outstanding and their return policy is great too!

                          I paid for two day shipping but UPS couldn't do it. It came in 5 business days rather than the two that I paid for. I emailed BC and they promptly refunded my 15 bucks for shipping and sent me a conformation email telling me they were doing so. AWESOME company, AWESOME jacket!

                          Windstopper Design CHANGE

                            This is an excellent jacket that can be used in multiple weather conditions. However, the new design does NOT have the left inside zipper pocket. This is a major flaw in my opinion. I use this pocket for hats, keys, wallet, phone etc. Whoever designed the new Windstopper dropped the ball by leaving out the inside pocket.

                            Gnarly

                              This jacket is f'ing sick! It is windproof for sure, and I have found that that aids immensely in the warmth of the jacket. It's pretty thin, but, contrary to my first assumptions, it does the job just fine. In one of the reviews I read before I bought it, one person stuck their arm out their car window going down the street to check the windproof-ness. I did the same thing on the highway on a 45 degree day (so the wind was nippy) and it is really kind of a weird sensation.

                              This may be a bit subjective, but how well...

                              This may be a bit subjective, but how well does this jacket breathe? Does it breathe about the same as a Gore Tex Pro Shell jacket? Along those lines?

                              Best Answer

                              Kur. This jacket is made with a fleece that is laminated with a windproof E-PTFE membrane called AirSheild Elite. It is completely windproof and air permeable by design. Because of the nature of this fabric (thickness, construction etc.) it will 'breathe' much better than a Gore Pro-Shell and compares more favorably to Windstopper. I hope this info helps!

                              Can someone tell me how stuffy this jacket...

                              Can someone tell me how stuffy this jacket is? I like most fleece since it breathes pretty well and have never worn a fleece with a windproof barrier.

                              My blood runs pretty warm and I was looking for a jacket (with a fit like this one) that I could wear for outdoor pursuits as well as casually.

                              Hi I am 6"1, 210 pounds. I wear a large...

                              Hi

                              I am 6"1, 210 pounds. I wear a large in most Patagonia items (e.g. Patagonia Storm Jacket), and a large in North Face soft shells. A Marmot Zeus down jacket fits pretty tight in Large but I wear it with a thin sweat shirt only and layer over it with the shell.

                              I would use this jacket as a mid layer with a capilene sweater or maybe a thin wool jumper.

                              Will a large be okay?

                              Would you use this under a three layer goretex jacket with a good baselayer for skiing in the Rockies?

                              Thanks from Down Under!

                              ria. I would stick with a large on the Windstopper Tech Jacket. It will work great as a mid-layer on the coldest days of Winter and as a stand alone windproof fleece in the Fall and Spring. Again, if you wear large from the other brands then a large should fit you well from Mountain Hardwear. Cheers!

                              I don't know that I'd recommend the Windstopper as a mid layer. That windstopper Gore comes at the expense of breathability, and would get -super- hot. Just my preference, but I like my mids to be either primaloft (Nano Puff) or 200wt Polartec (Arc'Teryx Covert) that dump heat better through shells pitzips and front zip.

                              Would this jacket be sufficient to layer...

                              Would this jacket be sufficient to layer up and use for downhill skiing or snow kiting? I'm looking for something that is windproof but is still very flexible and maneuverable. If so would it be good to go up a size to fit thicker layers underneath? Thanks!

                              I'll be spending a few weeks in torres del...

                              I'll be spending a few weeks in torres del paine in the middle of their winter. Avg. daily low is around 25 F. I bought one of these fleeces a few months ago and love it. Would I be able to layer this fleece under a marmot trient jacket? Would I even need to? Would a plain 300g fleece (minus the wind proofing) be a better midlayer due to increased flexibility? I'm kind of a novice when it comes to these things.

                              A better question would be, what will keep me warm around 10-15 (I want to give myself a bit of wiggle room).

                              Thanks!

                              Best Answer

                              After looking at the Trient, I don't think I would layer this jacket under it, as I don't think you'd need to. The Trient is a great jacket whose capabilities overlap the Windstopper jacket only slightly. Standalone, the Windstopper is more of a 30-50F jacket, that blocks wind and rain effectively, with good core venting. As you noticed, the jacket, when paired with a midlayer becomes even more capable. I've gone snowmachining in 15F with a Nano Puff pullover and the Windstopper and been comfortable, even a bit too warm. The Trient is going to be a 5-30F jacket, with super insulation, water resistance and mobility. If I had to only pick one of the two for your trip because of budget, I'd go with the Trient. If you can afford the Windstopper and another piece of gear for your arsenal to cover more climates, I'd get the Windstopper and a good midlayer.

                              After looking at the Trient, I don't think I would layer this jacket under it, as I don't think you'd need to. The Trient is a great jacket whose capabilities overlap the Windstopper jacket only slightly. Standalone, the Windstopper is more of a 30-50F jacket, that blocks wind and rain effectively, with good core venting. As you noticed, the jacket, when paired with a midlayer becomes even more capable. I've gone snowmachining in 15F with a Nano Puff pullover and the Windstopper and been comfortable, even a bit too warm. The Trient is going to be a 5-30F jacket, with super insulation, water resistance and mobility. If I had to only pick one of the two for your trip because of budget, I'd go with the Trient. If you can afford the Windstopper and another piece of gear for your arsenal to cover more climates, I'd get the Windstopper and a good midlayer.

                              Hi Christopher,

                              Thanks for your advice! I've already got a MH windstopper, so I figure I'll hold on to it and just pick up a nice midlayer. Any specific models that you recommend? I was looking at the Marmot Powder 8, Patagonia Better Sweater, Arc'teryx Strato, or the Marmot Power Stretch but I can't really decide (i.e. I don't really know what I'm looking for haha). I'm willing to shell out for quality stuff that will last a long time.

                              Sorry I missed your question, Alex, the RSS feed doesn't extend to other answers, just new questions. The midlayer I use depends on conditions. In the picture, it's an Arc'Teryx Apache AR. On that trip, I also had a Patagonia Nano Puff pullover that I used as a mid, which, when paired with the Windstopper, was a really solid and warm combination. If you can find a good deal, I'd totally recommend the Nano Puff pullover. It is phenomenally useful, not just as a mid or outer, but for almost instant warmth anywhere. I use mine as a face shield for my sleeping bags. Keeps my face and shoulders warm, without drafts, and regulates the temp inside the bag. The temperature range it covers for unexpected cold snaps combined with the packability makes it super useful. The Apache AR from Arc'Teryx is useful as well, with 200wt Polartec fleece, reinforced elbows, and DWR finish.. but it's not quite as versatile as the Nano Puff.

                              Can the collar on the new version still...

                              Can the collar on the new version still fold down, or is it sort of an "always up" kind of deal? I tried on an Android, which is made of the same deflection softshell material that's along the arms, shoulders, and collar of this new version of the Windstopper Tech. I didn't like the Android's collar because it was too high to leave flipped up all the time with the front not zipped all the way up, but too stiff around the zipper to fold down. I use a hoodie under my old-version WS Tech and it's nice to fold the collar down when I have a hood flopped over the outside of the jacket.

                              Thanks for checking. The old style is what I have now (which is on its death bed), and it has just a nylon/denier sort of material across the collar and shoulders. I think there also may be a slightly different cut to it. I'm debating between buying the new version or scrounging up a new-old version online, and my distaste for the Android collar is what prompted my concern about the new WS Tech collar

                              Best Answer

                              My mistake, it's not the deflection material, it's just the old reinforced nylon taslan stuff. I think the real dealbreaker might be the lack of interior storage. The new jacket is a step in the right direction with the tough fabric all over, but it needs the pitzips, interior pockets, plus the colors of the old style (ranger, rattler and otter), a bicep pocket and 300 weight Polartec, and I believe it might be -the- perfect softshell.

                              I commiserate with you on the search for a great softshell. I wear a Sierra Designs Gnar Hoody under my old style windstopper, and it's a bomber combo.

                              I'm retiring a 13+ year old MH Windstopper...

                              I'm retiring a 13+ year old MH Windstopper Tech (took about 5 of those years just to grow into it!). It's had a good run, but the Gore laminate is finally coming apart in the chest. I was all set to buy another one but I'm pretty disappointed to hear that the internal chest pocket has been nixed. I used it more than the external since it was vertical, even though it meant unzipping the jacket.

                              Owners of the new version, how do you like the softshell material on the shoulders and arms? Does it feel any stiffer in the arms now?
                              Can anyone recommend an alternative jacket to consider that is the same versatility, weight, and packability of this guy? It seems like pit zips are few and far between anymore, but I think the windstopper/pit zip combo is what let me do EVERYTHING in this jacket. I'm open to fleece or a softshell that plays more of the role of a mid-layer than a "shell," much like this jacket.

                              Everything else has been answered - thanks...

                              Everything else has been answered - thanks everyone!


                              Just some questions on the collar:

                              1) size - is it relatively close fitting or a wider one (in circumference)?
                              2) collar height - close to the chin?
                              It appears to be a closer fitting, higher collar - which is what I am looking for when zipped up - better wind protection.

                              Thanks!
                              Marc L.

                              Hi Christopher,

                              I am guessing an XL is the ticket: I'm 6' 2", ~196 lbs, 35.5" sleeve length. My neck measurement is 16" near the base of the neck and just over 15" just below the chin. My riding jacket has a 3" collar and it's fairly close fitting at 6.5" at the top of the collar. Does that help clarify things?

                              Regards,
                              Marc
                              Marc

                              i am 6'3" 204. the zipper on the XL comes to right under my chin. as neck circumference goes, i would recommend something underneath, as this is not tight enough to provide complete wind protection around the neck, but it does offer some. for a little more money, you could get a softshell with a hood. i have a personal affinity toward mountain hardwear because of this specific jacket. i like the dragon softshell, but it has different material, fewer pockets and is warmer. hope this helps.

                              Question on sizing... I want to order...

                              Question on sizing... I want to order this for my hubby, he's 5'7" about 155, but have very broad shoulders. Reading the sizing that people have talked about, I normally buy him large so he doesn't look like he's strapped in a straight jacket, but wondering if I should order a medium...

                              Thoughts?

                              Best Answer

                              two options get the Large, i feel like it fits pretty true to size, or you can order both large and medium and return the one you dont use, you will have to pay about 6$ return shipping but its worth it to make sure Xmas morning he has one that fits perfectly. Nothing is worse than getting an AWESOME jacket and having to return it because it doesnt fit just right and having to wait an extra week.

                              GOOD LUCK

                              I was wondering. The 09' version of this...

                              I was wondering. The 09' version of this jacket looks more like traditional fleece whereas the 10' version looks more like smooth semi-hardshell material. Product descriptions are the same but the look is different. Are they different?

                              JoshK. The jackets are pretty much the same. As mentioned in other answers, the only difference between '09 and '10 is price and the fact that we use Deflection Softshell in the shoulders and wear areas instead of a nylon taslan. In '09 we used a nylon taslan fabric in these areas. The fleece areas on the jacket are the same in both years. I hope this clears up any questions. Thanks!

                              also bought a '10 model and returned it. Had a WindWall from TNF since 2004, and its time to be replaced, I always like the look of the WindStopper, but I didnt like the tech fabric they've used. Its a nice jacket, and would be a pleasure to climb in with the cut, but its just not what I want from a fleece. I guess I'll get another Windwall...

                              Hi. I recently bought the previous version...

                              Hi. I recently bought the previous version of this jacket on sale (original MSRP of 185), haven't used it yet. I'm thinking about getting this new one to check out the differences. Which one would be better to keep, the '09 or '10 version (both in grill)? I'd be using it around the city mostly, for wind protection and/or light rain.

                              Mine is 8 years old and is now showing it's age. It still blocks the wind but has softened up more over time which makes me believe the Gore membrane has been compromised. I've used it for everything and recommend not doing that. Use it for the purpose you bought it for and you'll get a lot more life out of it than mine. Don't over wash, spot clean when necessary. Always hang to dry. Mine was taken care and functions as intended but just overly used for things other than the reasons I bought it. New one looks like an improvement over the old and I'm may consider getting it for a few more dollars over what I already have.

                              I guess I should have been clearer: I got the 09 version a few weeks ago, it still has the tags and hasn't been used. I'm now thinking of getting the '10 version, and returning the older version (as I only need one of these). I'm hoping that's a wise decision, as sometimes the newer model is not necessarily an improvement.

                              Juan Sierra. First off, both are great jackets. The main difference between the '09 and the '10 jackets is that on the shoulders and wear areas your jacket uses a Taslan fabric. On the '10 we moved to using a fleece backed softshell fabric. It is the same fabric we use to make the entire Android Jacket. Either way, you are psyched! I hope this info helps!

                              I have only seen pictures of the '09 and I own the new one. It seems the cuffs on the '09 are elastic, where the cuffs on the new one are straight with a fleece-y stretchy inner cuff. I really like it and when I saw a picture of the cuffs on the '09, I said out loud, "Yikes!". I'm not saying the '09 cuffs suck, obviously I don't have one, but the cuffs on the '10 are great.

                              I'm looking at this as a gift for my son...

                              I'm looking at this as a gift for my son - he's approx 5' 11'', 140 pounds. I usually buy tops in size large (think Life is Good t-shirts). But have seen some comments on MH products that seem to suggest a size small would be a good fit. Recommendations???

                              Get the M, It will give him better coverage in the arms and torso than the S, but he won't be swimming in it like the L. (Assuming he's a young adult), It will also make the jacket fit him for longer if he happens to fill out some.

                              For the record, I'm 6'1" 185 and like Medium in Mountain Hardwear, but its sometimes a little short on my torso. Should be perfect for him.

                              I'm looking at getting the windstopper...

                              I'm looking at getting the windstopper tech jacket, but I was wondering what the comfortable temp range for this jacket is. I'm looking for a nice fall/spring and probably some winter use as well here in Ohio.

                              This jacket is a midweight and windproof fleece, and is designed to be versatile in a wide range of mild to moderate weather. Comfort depends on your body type, metabolism and activity level. This jacket would be great over a t-shirt for an evening stroll in 50º weather, or hanging out at a bus stop at 65º. For winter use, this will work nicely as a layering piece underneath something more substantial

                              hope that helps

                              Today it was in the low 40's and I had to make a stop at the mall. T shirt is what I had on underneath it. I love the breath-ability of it because you will not need to take it off and carry it when indoors like at he mall. If I do get warmer, unzipping does the trick. Not the best insulator though because it's breath-ability. For winter use you are looking at this as more of a layering piece.

                              I have this on order but I've been reading...

                              I have this on order but I've been reading about the MH G50 and it seems like a better buy. The G50 seems to be very similar to the Windstopper Tech except the G50 is, based on a bunch of reviews, a lot more water resistant, and warmer. From what I've read about the G50, I think I'm going to send the Windstopper Tech back, and order the G50. Any thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.

                              Both jackets happen to be very good. The Windstopper is cut a little larger so you can layer underneath it I actually find it warmer than the G50. It has pit-zips which should not be underestimated. Since it is a fleece exterior, it will absorb water (even with dwr) but....windstopper (the membrane in-between) is highly water resistant. The g50 is more of a classic soft-shell. The body is cut to the waist (ie...right at the belt line, so not that long). Conduit is probably more water resistant/proof than the windstopper. The exterior, being nylon or something with a dwr, will shed the water better.

                              Both jackets are durable, but if you plan to be on rocks, abusing your jacket or in wet environments, then go the G50. If you are looking for more of a hiking/backpacking jacket, warm mid-layer under a hard-shell or casual jacket, go with the Windstopper. Mind you, both are very capable jackets.

                              If you're still undecided, order the g50, try them both, and eat the 6.99 return shipping fee. Small price for peace of mind.

                              How is this Jacket different than the old...

                              How is this Jacket different than the old style?

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                              in_iraq. Contrary to the answers below, the jacket is exactly the same as the old jacket in design... exactly. The one major change for F'10 is in the fabric of the arms and shoulders. It was changed from a Taslan to a air permeable and warm softshell! The same softshell fabric that we use in Mountain Hardwear's Android Jacket. Also, the colors between the fabrics are now tonal which give the jacket a very different look overall. The fit and everything else stayed the same. We literally just updated the fabric. I hope this info helps to clarify!

                              Jon,

                              I just pulled my 7 year old Windstopper out of the closet, and basically, you're right. My mistake. The different cuffs, the hem and the fabric make it look a far cry from the one I'm used to seeing. Mike and I both own an older one, and we both thought we were looking at something else entirely.