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Your internet home page is the avalanche report and you dream about deep powder all year long. We’re pretty sure the Mountain Hardwear Men’s Vertical Jacket is for you. This waterproof breathable Gore-Tex Pro Shell uses a performance fit, vents, and a removable powder skirt to keep you comfortable and moving in the backcountry. On the way up, unzip the vents and stash your energy snacks in the hand pockets so you can easily fuel up on your skin up. Pull up the zip-off hood when the wind blows, and engage the powder skirt for the descent. A high collar protects your neck even when you remove the hood on bluebird days.
Tom. Undoubtedly you would be the most comfortable in an XXL. The sleeves might be a little long but the jacket would fit well in the chest. I hope this helps!
For me, this shell is perfect, if I designed a shell this would be it. First off is material - Gore-tex Pro Shell, which is unbeatable in blocking wind and water while still being breathable and light. It really is surprizing how light pro shell is while still being so absolutely stormproof. The fabric is less stiff than some other pro shell jackets (TNF Free Thinker II, for example), not sure what that means other than it moves better. The jacket is fully seam sealed and built true to Mountain Hardwears legendary quality standards - no goofy or weak stitching and the like. The design of this jacket is superb. It's not minimalist where you end up making do with what you have, but it doesn't look over the top even though it's fully loaded and functional. It has all the pockets (wrist, chest, multiple internal), but it's not bulky or flashy. The pockets are well placed. The hand pockets aren't too high like on some shells - they don't need to be that high to be harness/pack compatible. The inside pockets are in good places and easy to access and operate. The core vents aren't in the armpits, but a little lower so they get good air exchange even if your arms aren't out. The powder skirt is removeable, so this shell can be used for multiple activities (like snow shoeing, for example where you don't need a pow skirt and it just makes your layers ride up with that kind of arm and torso movement). The hood is 3 way adjustable + removeable - if you know you aren't going to use it that day, you can take it off and not worry about it flapping in the breeze or snaging on stuff. The cuffs adjust well, the fabric doesn't bunch up when you tighten them down. The external zippers are all water tight with garages, except the main front zipper which is two-way and has a storm flap. There is a drawstring cinch cord at the collar, waist and hem for ultimate adjustibility. The entire collar has a microfleece lining to keep your cheeks and chin from getting raw. The fit of this jacket is great. Not restrictive in the arms, shoulders or chest. The torso is accomodating but not baggy. There is room to layer and go over your gloves at the wrist (if you choose) without being restrictive, but not enough to create excess that flaps around in wind. You will likely need to size up though, but who cares what size it says on the tag when the proper size fits so well? I have a Mountain Hardwear Cohesion and Downhill Down both in L and the XL in the Vertical is a perfect fit. Missing a recco but aside from possibly that, this jacket leaves you wanting absolutely nothing more from your shell.
Does anyone know if the Vertical jacket is 40,70, or other denier fabric weight. I'm one of those that kind of likes the stiff ultra durable feeling in the fabric. Is denier weight the main factor here or is it more about the number of Gore-Tex layers? Any suggestions for a jacket that still has that stiff durable feeling? I'm not particularly loyal to any specific brand at this point.
No idea on the denier. This is a 3 layer gore-tex pro shell jacket though, garaunteed to be the most durable and breathable. But...of the 5 gore tex jackets I've owned (MHW vertical (pro shell), Arc'teryx patriot(XCR), TNF Free Thinker II (pro shell), TNF Realization (performance shell), Columbia high alpine (?)), this is the least stiff, feels like a softshell minus the stretch (I like it, but to each their own). The others all pretty much had the same feel, which is stiffer than this jacket. Also, most proprietary waterproof/windproof fabrics trying to mimic gore-tex have that stiff feel, i.e. HyVent for TNF, etc..
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I got this jacket for x-mas and i must say that it is very breathable and had a great fit. As the other reviews said, not a lot of room for huge layers or upside down light bulb shaped people. I use skin tight base layer and Arcterx or MH ploar fleece mid wieght. I made 5 laps climbing up Murdocks peak to avoid the human slalom course and I did get overly warm a few hiking up but was pleased with how quickly the coat got rid of my sweat and I was comfortable. The closures on the sleeves hold well eventhough they have the velco ovals. The hood fits well over my G10MX and I don't feel constricted at all, however, out in the rain with the hood up and no helmet I feel gansta. Pockets on the inside seem sturdy, just have to see if they will stand the test of time, I have no doubt this jacket will hold up very well. The other jacket I have looked at is the Sidwinder SV, but got a better price on this jacket. I also prefer the pass holder that flips underneath as opposed to the sleeve hold on the Acteryx, those seem to turn yellow after a while in the sun. The shell also does not feel as stiff, at least when they are brand new as compared to the Sidewinder SV either. I suspect this jacket is just bombproof too. Lastly I got this jacket because my NF jacket ripped from snagging the pockets on branches, railings and door knobs. The sealed zippers won't catch any of these things or leak like the old NF. I've owned several summit series NF goretex shells and liked them as well as Steep Tech, Spyder, Marker and a host of others I can't remembner. This jacket blows all those away. Really there are only a handful of jackets in the league of the Verticle and this seems to be the best value. You may be able to get something for a bit less but this is it.The last thing I will say is I like the cut of the jacket, it is designed to move and is not restrictive and the venting works very well. Great job MH! I recommend, that's why my name is on this review.Update March 24, 2010:The only change I'd make to this coat is the velcro on the wrist closures, on bigger days snow clogs up the velcro and I find myself fiddling more than I'd like with the closures, it needs a solid peice of velcro rather than the ovals.When it's not snowing hard or I'm not sticking my hand down into wet snow they are fine but I suspect most velcor doesn't work much better in the same conditions. I have been poked by tree branches, skidded across some sharpies (rocks, ouch) and brushed up against all kinds of things and the fabric is holding up well no tears or holes yet after two seasons.
Opted to dump the cash on this jacket figuring I'd use it for skiing and mtb biking in cold, snowy conditions for many seasons. After a cold Christams week in Keystone and a few days in 18 degree weather on the bike I'm really happy I bought it. I used a good quality base, not-so-great mid and this shell and was very warm. I scraped many branches on my rides and have no ill effects on the jacket.
Good looking, durable material, intuitive features and lots of pockets made it a no-brainer for me.
Only reason it doesn't get 5 stars...when using the snowskirt it caused my midlayer to ride up my torso which was uncomfortable. I stopped using after 1st day.
I would go with an XL for sure, jacket isn't wide to begin with but with your height, you'd appreciate the XL. Definitely more of an athletic fit jacket. Get some!
I've used many 'high end' ski shells over the years, this is the best one. - arms flair nicely to put over your gloves and then velcro - velcro on the arm is only in elliptical patches, I'd prefer larger patches or a continuous band. it sticks well nicely now and crumples up well when cinching up the slack... but I wonder how long the velcro will hold up... - vents are back side- call 'em kidney vents- not under your arm like so many stupid jackets, these will actuall vent when you are not holding your arms over your head. - pockets are well placed, zipper pulls could be a grippy-er rubber, but do have nice nubs on the end to grab. - collar is plenty wide to duck your head in to on the cold ride up the lift, collar is pleny high as well, nice soft material lining it all around, not just over the zipper at your chin. - fit is athletic, skin tight base layer, plus medium insulating layer + mountain hardwear windstopper fleece and no room for anything bulky- but you will be totally warm as long as you actually ski and generate warmth- if you are poser, go buy a puffy Tommy Hillfiger jacket to stand around in. - plenty of arm articulation - shell has some sturdiness to it, kind of stands on its own, but is still soft and flexible at cold temps - removable power skirt is nice
So the difference between the Black and the Black/Grey is very subtle. The only difference between the 2 is the contrast around the pockets. The black is a smooth gray, the black gray is gray with bumps on it. It is a very small distinction. I will attach some pics in the guru photo area to clarify this.
Save yourself some money and get a more breathable Mountain Hardwear Xenon Jacket instead. It is made with Gore-Pac-Lite which is more breathable but only 2.5 layers so supposedly not as durable. They make up for that though with a really tough 70 denier nylon on the outside. Gore gets to tell the manufacture whether a shell is a "Pro Shell" or a "Peformance Shell" and I figure Gore didn't want to call it a pro-shell to make sure people kept buying the expense Gore 3L jackets.
Can anyone comment on the colors? I'm curious whether the pictures are accurate. The red looks ridiculously bright and the green looks a little too feminine for my taste.
The red color from MHW is usually pretty bright, but its not overwhelming. It's pretty true to color in the picture. I have never seen the green color in person though.
I love this jacket. Hand pockets where I want them (I hate how some north face raise them up), removable hood (that works well! even with a helmet) and powder skirt, plenty of internal pockets (mp3 player with passthrough from front chest as well as internal, goggle, chest pocket and arm pocket (nice for goggle cloth), flip down ski pass holder (velcros out up and out of the way if you don't need it, and is attached by elastic fabric for give), additional ring for attaching lift tickets, nice suede-like material inside the neck/chin area that is comfortable (don't see this on many shell jackets and it's a niiiice touch), a fold-over hook/loop overlap for the front of the entire main zipper (I prefer this to maximize wind protection), and lastly the fabric is looped over the top of the zipper so that the inner protection flap (that keeps your chin/lips from rubbing on the zipper) doesn't move (if you've had a jacket that has a flimsy flap this is a pain in the butt... like my Descente jacket). This is just a well designed jacket. The only negative is that the fabric doesn't feel like 3 layer pro shell, but I can't seem to confirm my hunch (comparing it to an Arcteryx Sidewinder SV I have which is the 480N 3-layer pro-shell). I unfortunately can't comment yet on how durable the jacket is, or how water/windproof it is as I haven't gotten it out to the slopes yet. At a glance though this is a badass jacket and I wish other manufacturers would take a look at these really simple features and add them.
The high pockets found on many jackets (not just TNF) are to allow for complete pocket use while wearing a harness when climbing, mountaineering, or drinking while hanging in it off your porch in a snowfall.
Herrman. I think you would be the most comfortable in a large. Especially when considering length. And if you are the same Herrman looking at the Vertical Pant... I would suggest now that you go with a Medium. The length will fit you better. Hope this helps!
Wore this last weekend skiing in the Cascades. It was freezing rain at the base and this jacket kept me dry as a bone. Hood is plenty big for a helmet and when it's zipped all the way up it covered almost up to my goggles. There are plenty of well placed draw cords to cinch up or release depending on how you need it. This jacket is definately high end and is well worth the $$$.
I'm 6'4'' and about 185 pounds. What size do you think I would be? Sometimes I need the length in the arms and torso of an XL, but if this jacket goes down to hip length I'll probably be ok with a L.
I am 6'4" and about 225 and the XL fits great. It has long arms and the length goes just below the waist. There are enough draw strings to adjust for a leaner frame.
I had the berylium - great coat! but lost it. I was a medium in that. Got the Vertical and it was way boxy, way bulky. Not great for someone 5'6" and slim. And much heavier - good for riding lifts, not for all around backpacking, skiing, etc. There was also no tighteners for the rim of the hood - weird - only cords to tighten the back, not the perimeter. Inadequate completely on that end.
There most certainly are cords to tighten the "perimeter" of the hood, there are tighteners on both sides. Mine has them, and you can see them in the pictures of this product even...
The Arc'teryx jackets you mention are both Gore soft-shell, which is water and windproof, but has a thin fleece laminated inside to add a bit more warmth than a Pro-shell. Scorpion is a thicker fleece, Stingray a very thin fleece laminate. Other than that, it's about fit and quality of construction...
Almost perfect. The fabic, construction, breathability, etc. are all top notch as one would expect from a $500 jacket. The men's medium fits me perfectly (5'4" and 150lbs. with a 41" chest). My only gripes are that it is a tad heavier than the Arcteryx sidewinder (which I did not get because I like to be able to open the zip and not have a collor flpping in my face), even with the hood off. Also the collar is quite high, so even with the center zip it still is flappy when open. The only other problem is that when you open the zipper from below to belay the fabric tends to catch in the zipper when rezipping.
How does this jacket compare to the Arcteryx Theta AR? I know this jacket has a powder skirt and removable hood and more interior pockets and the Theta does not, but has anyone owned or tried both of them and have any personal experience so I can get a better feel for them?
When considering these two jacket, i would take into consideration your planned use. This jacket will be better for skiing with is powder skirt, so if you are going to solely use this jacket for skiing, i would get this one. The Theta AR isnt a bad skiing jacket, but powder gets in way easier, even if you tighten the bottom hem. But if you are looking for a solid all around jacket, from skiing to hiking, etc, i would get the Theta AR.
I bought this jacket without even trying it on and I love it. I'm 6'2" 180lbs, 34waist and the L size is perfect. I can wear a light jacket underneath and I don't but feel any restriction in my upper body. The cut is perfect - the pictures don't do it justice.
Two small complaints. The front interferes with my mouth when fully zipped up. I guess lots of people like this feature because I've noticed that both MHW and Arcteryx have been following the trend of a higher neck in recent years. The other minor gripe is that the vents could be bigger. It is a ski jacket after all.
Can someone please tell me if the powder skirt on this jacket has the ability to connect to pants? Or is this feature as useless as the ones on the Arcteryx and other similar Mountain Hardwear Jackets?
Yea please explain your "useless" comment further. I've used a powder skirt (no pants atchmt) for 10 years and not once has powder gotten in my pants or up my jacket during falls.
Amazing jacket all around, but I feel like MH tried to make everyone happy at the same time. The adjustable collar doesn't stand tall in crappy condition like other jackets. If they had just gone with the stand collar it would be the bomb....
Is the "Green Flash" really the yellowish color in the image? Should I expect more greenish when I get it in my hands? Is the hood helmet compatible as some reviewers have suggested?
I have the MH Transition Zip T in this colour, and it is a tiny bit more green, but much more vibrantly yellow. Not quite hi-viz yellow, but pretty darn close. I actually quite like it, it has some character. And makes my that much more visible on my bike.
I have seen it in person and the picture is pretty accurate. It's sharp looking, but definitely bright and bold. Highlighter yellow or green flash would be accurate descriptions. I like it.
its a little bit greener than this picture. my bro has the beryllium in the flash green color, so it can tell you its a pretty sweet color if you want to stand out. i would recommend to look at the MH page and other retailer websites to get more pictures of this color.--------------------------------------The hood is helmet compatible as suggested and designed.
I personally prefer a single insulated jacket. I tried the vertical to see if i would like the layering concept for alpine skiing. The MH monkey fur pull over kept me very warm as a midlayer. I am six foot 180 and the large was perfect. It come down to a personaly preferance of layering or an insulated jacket. At this time i like an insultated, but if I do ever want to got with a shell for layering this will be it. Last comment is I did miss putting my hands in a soft lined pocket instead of a plastic felling pocket, and having a softer collar feel like my Spyder Alpen has.
Really torn between this jacket and the Arc'teryx Sidewinder. Like the Vertical because it has a removable hood and for days on the main mountain runs when it's not snowing, I don't know if I really feel like having a hood tag along. This jacket also looks like it has more pockets... true or not? Lastly, which jacket feels more like softshell fabric versus a noisy , crinkly shell?
If I recall correctly the sidewinder has one internal pocket. This one has three. I had the sidewinder SV and decided against it for this reason.This jacket is less "crinkly" than the sidewinder SV. Can't say for the AR. Neither feels like a softshell as neither is a softshell. The sidewinder's fabric is stiffer, which I believe is because it's 3-layer compared to this being 2-layer.
This jacket is more than I was looking for. No insulation so that I can layer as I see fit and capitalize on breathability. I use this for Apline skiing and wear an Icebreaker 320 as a midweight with similar baselayers. I have not over heated or sweated out my shirt yet. Tough fabric too. I have snagged branches and actually crashed this season into a lodgepole pine full speed. I was messed up but the jacket is still flawless. Highly recommended. Avoid nonbreathable midlayers. They defeat the purpose for a 495 dollar jacket.
This jacket is not insulated. It does seem to fit fairly close, but there's still enough room to wear a lightweight fleece or synthetic jacket underneath, although not a puffy down jacket.
It's windproof.-------------------------------It is wind and water proof utilizing GoreTex ProShell technology. Jackets do not get any more wind and waterproof. Cheers!
This is one of the most power packed jackets in our line. Here is a list of what it offers: Gore Proshell (utilizing 8mm tape on the seams for increased breathability) a zip-off hood, a zip-out powder skirt, arm pocket for a RF ski ticket, a clear PU flip down pass holder, and you get all of that for 26oz.! Pretty amazing. It is hard to match Gore Proshell in the market when it comes to breathability coupled with durability. Hope this info helps...
This jacket will fit fairly snug. There seems to be a bit of room for layering but not a ton of room. In my experience when manufacturers say "performance" fit they mean that they expect you to be working harder than the average joe so you don't need quite as much layering but that's just what I've seen. Hope that helps.I'm usually a Large in jackets, sometimes an XL, and on this jacket the Large was just too snug a fit that I wouldn't be able to layer well and it was a bit too snug around the ski pants. I am ordering an XL.
For me, this shell is perfect, if I designed a shell this would be it. First off is material - Gore-tex Pro Shell, which is unbeatable in blocking wind more...
I got this jacket for x-mas and i must say that it is very breathable and had a great fit. As the other reviews said, not a lot of room for huge layers more...