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I carry one of these jackets with me on all of my Wasatch backcountry ski tours and pull it out on about half of them. It is a very light, very compressible jacket that provides instant warmth if you are hanging around waiting, eating lunch, digging a pit, etc..
I am normally a "medium" in jackets, but for this one, I go with a "large" so I can pull it on over the top of everything. This avoids having to strip down, get cold, then put everything back on.
About my only complaint is that the shell material is very fragile, which I suppose comes with the territory in a jacket like this. I've put man little tears in mine, which are easily replaced with Seam Sealer.
Mountain Hardwear Phantom Down Jacket - Men's.
So far I love the jacket. The quality is just what I would expect from Mountain Hardware, Very Good. This jacket is super light and compactable. The intent is to use this as a mountaineering jacket and with layering. It should be perfect for that purpose
The fit is very comfortable. I was hesitant to buy a medium with my size, 5'10" at 180 with an average length torso, but it fits very well. As others reviewers have noted, the length is none too long, but I find that it is not short either.
Only time will tell about durability, but I am very excited to take this to the mountains
Is the phantom being continued next year?...
Is the phantom being continued next year? I was wondering because its no longer on the mountain hardwear website and there is very limited quantity. I was looking at getting one but there are no colors and sizes I want.
James. The Phantom IS definitely being continued next year. The reason it is not on the Hardwear site is because the site has switched over to Spring product. It will pop back on the site sometime the first or second week of August when the fall product comes around again.
This jacket broke my heart
I loved this jacket from the time I bought it until the first time I wore it in the woods. I bought it to wear on summits and around camp. Upon arriving at camp, I put it on and was immediately toasty. Then I went to answer nature's call and the sleeve tore open on a tree branch. Feathers were flying everywhere. I was crushed.
If you're looking for a super warm, super light jacket to wear around town, this is the one for you. Just don't wear it around trees. If you're looking for a jacket you can wear in the mountains, you'd do well to look elsewhere.
how do i fix a hole in my down jacket
how do i fix a hole in my down jacket
They make sticky back ripstop, (google ripstop repair kit). You my try contacting Mountain Hardwear (http://www.mountainhardwear.com/FAQ.aspx)and i bet they can fix it a little prettier if that matters. or if your referring to the MontBell jacket mentioned above... (http://www.montbell.us/custserv/faq/)
Nicest weight to warmth ratio of any layer I own. Very simple and clean design. A hood would be a nice option.Spent a few really cold nights in Yellowstone this winter and the Phantom was great to have along. Works well as a pillow stuffed in the sleeping bag.
loses too much down
the jacket was great in its first winter. but now in its 3rd winter, its leaking down like crazy. it keeps me warm though in ice cold iowa city. the fit is ok. i bought a medium and i am 6'1. sleeves could be a little longer and the fit could be a little more athletic. a good jacket overall. no major complaints.
super comfy and ultra light
so far I love this jacket for it's so comfy and light. I can toss it around, and stuff it in my backpack when I go biking, it's just all around good down jacket.
Con: well, people don't like the fit, I have nothing against it, it fits well on me, 5'11, I got a Large, but it does make me look like a puffy marshmellow. it's just I don't really care.
2. the main reason I didn't give it a 5 star is, for $200 some bucks, I really hope this jacket is lot warmer, come on, 700 fill down jacket, I was thinking I can go out on a cold morning walking my dog just throwing this jacket on top of my t-shirt will do the trick, but no, definitly need one more layer under neath, it's not as warm as I expected.
I purchased this for my husband as a Christmas gift, it now seems to be a permanent part of his body! Its warm, light and very comfortable. He does look a bit puffier when he wears it but with our cold weather this year its been awesome!
This thing is simply unreal. Less than a pound, packs down to about the size of a Nalgene bottle, and toasty warm. I just came off a trip camping in 10°F, and at camp the first night (likely around 13-14°) all I had on under the jacket was a superlight wool t-shirt, and I was plenty warm. The only things I could possibly complain about are that only the front sides of the pockets have microfleece on them, and the construction is sewn-through instead of baffled like the Sub Zero, but changing either of those things would, of course, add weight, and this is meant to be an ultralight jacket. And ultralight it is!
I'm 6'2" and 195lbs, and the Large fits perfectlybig enough to wear over my softshell, and small enough to wear alone or under my gore-tex pro shell when things get really nasty.
I got this jacket to use in the cold weather in Vail, CO and it kept me warm. I had a t-shirt on underneath the jacket and I was just fine, the temperature was around 20 degrees. I am 5' 10", 200 lbs and the large fit me fine.
I had the Sub Zero and it was too short...is...
I had the Sub Zero and it was too short...is the Phantom also a short fit?
If the Sub Zero was too short, definitely size up on this one. It's a much more trim fit. I've owned Mediums in both and there is a huge difference in sizing, since the Sub Zero is supposed to be a burly jacket and this is more of a down sweater. So yeah, the Phantom is a short fit.
I am considering the MontBell permafrost,...
I am considering the MontBell permafrost, the the Mountain Hardwear Phantom, and the Feathered Friends Helios Jacket. I am looking for a light packable but warm jacket for BC skiing, hut trips, and yes, cold days in town. All are about a pound. Does anyone know the fill weight on the Permafrost and the Mountain Hardwear Phantom? FF lists 8 oz of fill.
Both jackets are an 800 fill down jacket, so there is not much difference there. The one main difference is the gore-tex windstopper coating on the Montbell Permafrost. Hope this helps.
I'm fairly certain I read somewhere that the Phantom has 8-9 ounces of down inside. The Montbell Permafrost Light has 4.0 ounces while the Permafrost Parka has 9.0 (but it weighs 26 ounces). The Permafrost Light is the same weight as the Feathered Friends and the Mountain Hardwear but has significantly less down. It does have the windstopper lining but you'll have to decide whether windproof is better than extra down for your needs.
ok, update, after rereading my review of this jacket below it looks like the Phantom has 7 ounces of down; so:
Permafrost Light: 4.0 ounces
Phantom: 7.0 ounces
Helios: 8.0 ounces
So warm, so light
I just got the Sapphire color in a large last week and it's super. The jacket is amazingly light for the warmth it provides. I've read that MHW puts about 7 ounces of down into this jacket in case you want to compare it to others. The shell is quite thin (one of the ways they save weight), but I don't think it's thin to the point that I'll be scared to wear it. The length is good on me (I'm 6' tall) and the fit is somewhat athletic but unrestrictive (don't look for it to be roomy and loose). All in all, it was everything I was looking for.
love this jacket. it's the warmest jacket i own. it comes with me on in the backcountry. it packs down small in the backpack and is great when the temps are super cold. the pockets are lined which is nice. i wanted it as light as possible so although i'm a medium i bought a small and it's fine. just feels a bit short by the waist. to keep it light, the outter shell material can puncture easy. so far in 2 years i've had to patch one hole that was letting feathers out. quick and easy to fix though.
i recently picked up the MHW Dragon...
i recently picked up the MHW Dragon softshell. I am wondering if this will make a good fit over the Phantom. I want to use it to protect the Phantom from any stray embers while sitting around the campfire lol. I currently own the millet belay device jacket and it is a little too big to go under the Dragon.
Jimmy. I've used the Phantom Jacket under my Dragon Jacket and been happy on the coldest days. But, if you are gonna be hanging around a fire... might I suggest a Carhart Jacket as your outer layer? This combo of Phantom and Carhart works well as well! It's my Indian Creek fire suit! Cheers!
Thanks for the suggestion. While chatting w/ a gear guru on BC I changed my mind and purchased the MHW compressor for my mid layer. If this does not work I may return it and try your combination Cheers!
I have the Mtn Hardwear sub-zero and really...
I have the Mtn Hardwear sub-zero and really hate it - the fit is too short and wide in the body, making the thing really drafty...the cut of the arms is also not the greatest for mobility.
So I'm looking for a replacement, but want something more athletically cut...comparisons with the Phantom
This thing is dope money. But so is the MontBell Permafrost Light...
Look at two things here: Weight and warmth.
Which do you think is better?
The Phantom is 15oz and has a 15 denier fabric which will be very, very susceptible to tears and snags. Also it won't be as weather resistant as a thicker fabric would be...
Enter the Permafrost. 30 denier fabric, 800 fill just like the Phantom, weight is 14 ounces but here is the catch: Permafrost has Gore WindStopper, the well known, long proven windproof and fairly waterproof lightweight and stretchy Gore laminate.
Our results: Permafrost has WindStopper, 800 fill, Ballistic 30 denier fabric, and comes in lighter and more packable than the Phantom. Plus, when the Phantom isn't on sale, both jackets cost the same.
I've used both because I am an avid Mountan Hardwear guy, but the MontBell Permafrost Light takes the cake when comparing the two.
Check it out, here on Backcountry.com.
Featherly Light and Featherly Warm!
Super light weight and super warm! That about sums it up. I use this on my winter backpacking trips. Whenever I get to camp I throw this on, and am instantly toasty. I also use it when walking to class in frigid Bozeman, MT. -25 this morning and was toasty warm in only a t shirt underneath! Also packs super small!
So it should come as no great surprise that this is a great jacket. I wish i could say more great things about this jacket, but to really appreciate it you need to try it out. My one complaint is that it could be a bit longer in the torso (i'm about 6' and I have a large), however all the other aspects of the jacket are nice... especially the deep fleece lined pockets, nice to warm your hands in or stuff a few pieces of fruit in for breakfast. I've not had the occasion to test out the ripstop on the jacket but i'm hoping that i wont have to. A little bit pricey, but you'll soon forget about that if you've ever worn it on a cold night
Excellent athletic fit; I'm 6'0", ~165 lbs, ~41" chest and a large is perfect on me with room for a few thin layers underneath. It's roomy in the chest and shoulders and sleeves are plenty long. The cut of the body is short- don't expect it to cover your butt. Unbeatable warmth to weight ratio- my large weighs 16.8 oz. Definitely not a durable outer shell on it so you wouldn't want to wear it hiking thru brush without a shell over it. Love it. The model I have is a yr or two old so it may be a bit different from current.