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Mountain Hardwear Kramer Softshell Jacket - Men's - 2009 BCS

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Kramer Softshell Jacket - Men's
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The Mountain Hardwear Men’s Softshell Jacket combines waterproof and softshell technologies to help you achieve serenity now on your next backcountry tour or day at the resort. A hybrid combo of waterproof breathable fabric and stretchy softshell panels give you an ideal balance of weather protection and mobility for winter conditions. Tons of pockets store everything from your goggles to your MP3 player, and the removable hood and powder skirt let you customize the jacket to the day’s conditions.

Bottom Line: The Kramer Softshell Jacket is out there, and it’s loooovin’ every minute of it.

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I am 5'6" and ~ 155 lbs. Would a Medium or Large be

I am 5'6" and ~ 155 lbs. Would a Medium or Large be the right size for me. I would like to have some room for a baselayer. Thanks!

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April 12, 2011

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If you're just interested in a baselayer beneath that, I think a small would work fine. If you're layering something down or Primaloft under it, a medium, maybe. I'm 5'1l" 155 and I think the smalls work for me, even with a thicker layer like down or Primaloft, but I like the compact alpine fit. If you prefer looser cuts, medium will work. I think you'd be swimming in a large.

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April 13, 2011

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Rating for this product: 4

Collar of a Lifetime

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February 21, 2011

I've used the Kramer Jacket on campus, throughout this grueling winter in NE Ohio. I have always been very please with the quality of a Mountain Hardware build. The jacket has an awesome fit and a EPIC collar. I am 5'5" with a slim athletic build and am very pleased with a medium fit. There is plenty of room to layer (MH Octans Fleece) without compromising the slender design. Along with three outer and one inner zip pockets, there is an internal mesh space for quick access to gloves or a beanie. The shoulder area is lined with a very plush "synthetic fur" for extra warmth. The Kramer Jacket supplies a good amount of warmth and performs very well in windy conditions. The water proofing could have performed a bit better, but I am very happy with this purchase. I would like to reiterate how ridiculous the collar on this jacket is. The Kramer collar alone is enough to keep you warm all season.

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March 5, 2011

Very bummed to say that this jacket was short on me--uncomfortably short. I'm 6'3 and I bought an XL and an L to try and they both received jeers from my girlfriend who thought I looked odd. If you're a string bean like me, this coat has a nice athletic fit, but is not very long.

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March 2, 2011

jackets bomb for biking. used to rock it layered up and still had room to move on the [fixie] commute.

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March 1, 2011

Hey Alan, I'm also from NE Ohio and will be strapping this Krame-dawg to exterior for the morning bike commute. I just ordered it, so I'll update my post with a "real" review once it arrives.

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Can anyone tell me how this jacket compares to the MHW Ascent

Can anyone tell me how this jacket compares to the MHW Ascent MCZ? Other than the hybrid softshell component, it seems very similar. Is it a bit heavier and warmer?

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December 14, 2010

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dlombard. The Ascent MCZ uses a Conduit Hardshell material throughout the Jacket with fleece welded strategically to the inside of the jacket (Micro Climate Zoning or MCZ) in where the body loses heat during activity. The Kramer utilizes the same MCZ fleece laminated around the jacket but now combines Hardshell and Softshell fabric combined in the shell... as you correctly identified. Due to the fleece backing of the softshell material in the Kramer it could be a little warmer overall. I hope this info helps!

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December 15, 2010

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Rating for this product: 5

A Maz Zing!

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February 14, 2010

I love this jacket. I'm a bit of a tall slender guy at 6'1" 185 lbs and have always had a bit of a hard time finding jackets that aren't a tent around my mid-section. Mountain Hardwear's slim athletic fit fits me perfectly, like nothing ever has before even Arc'teryx. Add to that the Kramer's combination of hard shell where you need it and soft shell where you want it, throw in taped seams and waterproof zippers throughout and you have a shell that can't be beat!

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March 14, 2010

I don't know if this will make it to you Matt, but would you mind telling me what size jacket your purchased? I'm roughly the same build as you and have an equally difficult time finding one that fits right. Anyway, it would really be appreciated! Thanks.

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Can do anything

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March 27, 2012

I love this jacket!

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Hi, I m 5`8" and 176lbs, which size do you recomend me?

Hi, I m 5`8" and 176lbs, which size do you recomend me? I have a good bargain for a M size, should I go for it?

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October 6, 2010

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This is a little late, it might help someone else.

I'm About 5'9" 151 lbs with a 40" chest and I fit into a medium nicely with NO layers. WITH layers (base + fleece), this jacket cramps up a little fast. You should def. go large.

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December 14, 2010

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Jorge. You will probably be the most comfortable in a large. I feel like medium would be a little tight in the chest. I hope this info helps!

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October 6, 2010

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Rating for this product: 4

Great Ski Jacket

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January 4, 2010

This is a bulletproof soft/hard shell jacket. If your on the mountain this unit will keep you secluded from the elements. I have been on the chairlift at -23C with a wind and been very impressed with the protection this jacket delivers. I wear an old school MEC fleece with a base layer and stay well insulated.

I note that this is a great SKI jacket. I have used it on a few snowshoe expeditions and it does offer the same protection, though I find that it does not breath as well and as a result did heat up went exerting. (That really is all I have to say in a negative manner) The two way pit zips take care of the issue quite handily.

The detachable hood leaves plenty of room for a helmet and offers as much if not better peripheral view of any I have tried. The powder bib is well thought out and works well, though I recommend still using a bib pant if you plan to be in the deep stuff.

All of the seams and zips are well taped - you can tell this is manufactured from experience and research.

One small critique: I really do question the 'pass holder' gadget. Anyone willing to gamble by attaching their seasons pass to this has much faith in light plastic. I also question the functionality of it... you would still have to unzip to present your pass.

That aside, I say well worth the investment.

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I am 6-3 180 pounds. Would the XL be the right fit or would

I am 6-3 180 pounds. Would the XL be the right fit or would it be too bulky with a 32 inch waist?

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July 24, 2010

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I am 6’ 2”, 205lbs (Fit) and 33” waist. The XL is a good fit. I tried the L but it was too tight. XXL would be way too big.

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January 26, 2011

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Rating for this product: 4

Great Shell

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November 21, 2010

I'm 5'10", 200 lbs, bought the Large. Size is perfect. FItted but not too tight with a fleece and capilene underneath. I've taken it on 2 winter climbs. Once above 12K ft and the other over 13K ft. Windchill was close to zero on both occasions. Snow on the first climb, strong wind gusts on the second. Blocked the wind beautifully. Used the pit zips to let the heat out. Excellent pockets, zippers, and craftsmanship. My only complaint is that I would say it's a bit short. I wear it with ski pants with no suspenders. Need to get some suspenders to wear them together.

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i just received my Kramer and noticed a disconnect with the posted

i just received my Kramer and noticed a disconnect with the posted specs. Backcountry, and other sites, list a total of 7 pockets. My jacket has 5. I do not appear to have the mp-3 pocket or the sleeve pocket.
Does anyone else have this issue?
Did they change the style mid year?

One other thing. Right above the powder skirt, above both hips, is a snap that hangs down from about a 2inch lead. Does anyone know what that is for? (to connected to integrated ski pants?).

Thanks for your help

Cheers,

Chris

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March 23, 2010

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I bought a Kramer in January 09 and it does in fact have 7 pockets, including the mp3 and sleeve pockets. I'm guessing they changed the style since then but never updated the description.

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May 5, 2010

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Chris S. The jacket has 1 chest pocket, 2 hand pockets, 1 internal mesh (water bottle) pocket, and 1 internal zip closure pocket = total of 5 pockets. Not sure why the specs say 7. The jacket has never had a sleeve pocket. Sorry for the confusion...

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April 11, 2010

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Yes the snap is for snowpants. Sometimes you can just put them through a belt loop too.

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April 8, 2010

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Rating for this product: 5

so far so good

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April 18, 2010

I got the jacket toward the end of the season when I'll wear it but I've been pleased with it so far. The fit is good and it feels comfortable. I wore in for a hike in the rain and it kept me perfectly dry.

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April 18, 2010

awesome jacket. Very very comfortable, xxl fit me well, with room for extra layers if necessary (i am 6'4", 230 lbs). The only knock would be extra pockets, maybe a dedicated goggle pocket below the snow skirt (despite the description, the kramer comes with 5, not 7 pockets). Jacket vented very well, definitely a step up from my various north face jackets...

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I am finding two different pictures of the pesto version of the

I am finding two different pictures of the pesto version of the kramer jacket. Backcountry has a mostly gray with green sides and the mountain hardwear site as the opposite. Which one is it?

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December 31, 2009

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Gordon. See the Q&A below... I think that will answer your questions. Thanks!

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December 31, 2009

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Rating for this product: 5

Great Shell

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April 22, 2010

Awesome jacket. Makes me wish I was in the mountains when I put it on. Plan to use it for snow activities and fishing in the mountains. No cons to say since I paid less than 200.

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The Mountain Hardwear website's picture of the Kramer jackets

The Mountain Hardwear website's picture of the Kramer jackets shows the Black/Grill color as being mostly black with gray accent panels. But the Backcountry website shows it as being the opposite...mostly gray with black accents panels. Which picture is correct?

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December 1, 2009

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Amy. Good catch. The picture on the Backcountry site is correct. Check out the gear guru picture for confirmation. Hope this helps!

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December 1, 2009

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Rating for this product: 3

I really wish this jacket fit me

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February 8, 2010

This jacket looks great and has all the technical items that I was looking for. I just wish it fit. The jacket is cut a little short and tight through the chest. I am 6' 200 lbs and the Large was too tight, and the XL the arms were too long.

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Write your question here...what is the best way to measure yourself

Write your question here...what is the best way to measure yourself to get the right fit for the kramer jacket with out orrying it being to small/tight like to make sure I can wear other things for layering. I am 5 10 180 lbs snowboarder

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November 23, 2009

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Marcel. Not sure on the best way to measure yourself... but, we have a sweet sizing chart on our website that you can access from the product pages. If you want to skip that measuring part at 5'10" and 180 you would more than likely be a large in the Kramer Jacket. Hope this helps!

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November 25, 2009

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Rating for this product: 4

Great jacket…fit is a challenge

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January 6, 2011

Finally found this jacket after purchasing 3 other Mountain Hardware shells. I was looking for a “technical” looking shell that would keep the elements out and keep me warm as long as I used layers. I also wanted a jacket that I could use snowboarding and wanted the functionality of the POW skirt and hood. Well, this jacket seems to be what I was looking for! The craftsmanship is top notch and the design is cool. The only frustrating thing is the sizing! Mountain Hardware has different sizing for different jackets. One jacket fit me in an XL and another jacket XL was huge! I’m a fit 6’2 guy 210lbs and the large is a little tight…so I tried the XL and it’s a perfect fit!! The only true flaw that I found is that the jacket is a little short in the waste. MH could have designed this jacket to be about and inch longer.

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January 7, 2011

Ok—sending back for a XL. Hopefully last time returning….

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One last question, I think I like the versatility of the Kramer

One last question, I think I like the versatility of the Kramer as opposed to a shell. Would I need a another jacket keep warm when the temp falls, or would I be better off with layering. What items would you recommend.

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October 27, 2009

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Hey Joe. The Kramer itself is not overly warm I would recommend layering with it. If you like Mountain Hardwear the Monkey Man Fleece is pretty kick-ass to layer with. I have last year's model and it's super warm. Also the Nitrous Jacket is a very nice down-insulated layering piece. If you want to look outside Mountain Hardwear, there's another down piece by Outdoor Research called the Transcendent Sweater which I own and really like. I would also suggest you look at the Repoint Jacket by North Face. It's a synthetically insulated jacket which will also layer nicely. Hope that helps.

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October 29, 2009

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Rating for this product: 4

Solid Jacket

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December 14, 2010

The Fit: I'm around 5'9" 151 lbs with a 40" chest. The medium jacket fits perfect with my dimensions without layering and I would consider it an Athletic fit similar to Norrona's only a bit more generous. With a base layer + fleece, it became too small for my liking.

Everything Else : I owned this jacket for a little less than a year and it did it's job. The micro climate zoning is very nice and helps with warmth when you are only wearing a baselayer + the jkt. The pit zips work like they should dumping heat when necessary. The waterproofness is very good, but it's not gore-tex so it will eventually soak through. But with this being a winter sports jacket.....how much does being completely waterproof really matter? The collar on this jacket is high and was a feature I really really liked about this jkt. The hood is a bit on the large size so accommodating a helmet shouldn't be a problem. The Conduit Softshell material seems pretty burly, but I never really tested that out. It has ok breathability but the pit zips help with that. The softshell material doesn't stretch very much either.

In the end it was returned due to size issues and to get Polartec's new Powershield Pro softshell material.

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What is the advantage (or disadvantage) of the Kramer verses

What is the advantage (or disadvantage) of the Kramer verses the MH Flume jacket. I know the Flume is rated as a hard shell but looking at them both seems like there is little difference.

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October 27, 2009

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Scott. The Flume Jacket is a hardshell utilizing the Conduit DT laminate coupled with strategically placed fleece on the inside of the jacket for extra warmth. We call this well placed fleece - MicroClimate Zoning. The Kramer Jacket is a hardshell/softshell combo that utilizes a Conduit 3-layer Shell fabric coupled with a Conduit softshell fabric (fleecy back) all packed together in one sweet jacket. It also has the strategically placed fleece as well. The feature set is similar between the two jackets. So, in short, one is a hardshell and one is a hardshell/softshell combo. Hope this helps!

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October 27, 2009

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Rating for this product: 3

snug fit, short waist, nice materials

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August 15, 2010

I used the fitting table for the product. I am 5'9", 165lbs with 33" arms and 41" chest. The table recommended medium. The coat fit snug like a dress shirt. The arms were too long. The back of the coat barely made my waist. If I was bending over or sitting on a ski lift, my lower back would be exposed. You would need to wear bibs not to have this problem.
The appearance, materials and craftsmanship of the coat are good, but I do not like its fit/design. I returned it and will get something else from a different manufacturer.

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How does this compare to hardshells made by other makers? What

How does this compare to hardshells made by other makers? What are some of the benefits of choosing a the Kramer instead of a gore-tex shell.

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October 26, 2009

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Hey Joe. The Kramer has a few benefits over a Gore-Tex shell. The Kramer has a bit of insulation on the upper arms and shoulders in the form of flat-back Monkey Phur. It helps to hold the warmer air on your shoulders a little bit better than a typical shell would. There is also a body-mapped micro fleece backer on the jacket which provides extra breathability under the arms but provides a little bit of heat retention across the back.

Insulation aside the only other benefits the Kramer has stem from it's ski/snowboard centric design. If you're not going to use it for skiing or boarding, then there are better jackets out there. Simply put, the removable snow skirt, goggle pocket, lift pass holder, and oodles of pockets are suited best for spending a day on the hill.

I have the Kramer and a Gore-Tex shell. For skiing, the Kramer is sweet. It's my fair weather ski shell, since I find it fits a little slimmer than most ski shells. The breathability can't be beat. In my opinion MHW makes some of the most breathable proprietary alternatives to Gore-Tex. That being said, this jacket is not for activities such as ice climbing. That's where the Gore-Tex shell proves its worth. Alpine pockets, unbeatable waterproofing, super hardy face fabrics, and a fit that you can seriously layer under make my hardshell my best friend with heading outside at -25 C.

So to answer your question in short. The Kramer is better for skiing, in my opinion, than typical hardshells. However, keep it on the hill. It has a few shortcomings when adapting to other activities.

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October 26, 2009

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does this have wrist gaiters? i wear my gloves/mitts underneath

does this have wrist gaiters?

i wear my gloves/mitts underneath my sleeves, but like to have a wrist gaiter to keep dry.

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October 26, 2009

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No, just velcro on the outside of the sleeves

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October 26, 2009

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Is the hood on this MH Kramer Softshell large enough to comfortably

Is the hood on this MH Kramer Softshell large enough to comfortably use with a ski helmet?

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October 24, 2009

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it will fit over the largest helmet you could possibly find.

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November 5, 2009

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Scott. Depends on the brand of ski helmet. With that said, we did design the hood with helmets in mind. The hood is also removable for those days when just the ski helmet is enough. Cheers!

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October 25, 2009

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What exactly is a powder skirt? How does it keep snow out?

What exactly is a powder skirt? How does it keep snow out?

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October 17, 2009

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Scott. A powder skirt in jackets refers to a flap or skirt of fabric that sits on the inside of many ski jackets at waist level which is designed to keep powder snow out when skiing... or more precisely when crashing while skiing. There is usually an elastic element incorporated into the design to keep them snug around the waist while skiing as well. Some people like them... some folks don't. All of the powder skirts in Mountain Hardwear ski jackets are removable via a zipper interface for this reason. Hope this helps!

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October 19, 2009

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Collar of a Lifetime

4 star rating

By: Alan Herschman February 21, 2011

I've used the Kramer Jacket on campus, throughout this grueling winter in NE Ohio. I have always been very please with the quality of a Mountain Hardware more...

A Maz Zing!

5 star rating

By: Matt Oliver February 14, 2010

I love this jacket. I'm a bit of a tall slender guy at 6'1" 185 lbs and have always had a bit of a hard time finding jackets that aren't more...

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Material:
Stretch Twill AXF (100% nylon), Synchro SBT AXF (50% polyester, 50% nylon) 
Fit:
Slim, loose, etc 
Center Back Length:
29in (74cm) 
Core Venting:
Underarm zips 
Pockets:
2 Hand, 1 chest, 1 sleeve, 1 MP3, 1 internal mesh, 1 internal zip 
Seam Taped:
Exterior, water-resistant tape 
Powder Skirt:
Yes, removable 
Hood:
Yes, removable 
Weight:
1lb 15oz (874g) 
Recommended Use:
Skiing, snowboarding, ice climbing 
Manufacturer Warranty:
Lifetime