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Brave even the coldest at-altitude adventures in the Mountain Hardwear Chillwave Down Parka. Built with rough-and-ready ripstop nylon and filled with insulating 650-fill down, this parka laughs off even sub-zero gusts. A removable hood lets you keep it casual back at base camp, while ample pockets store your essentials and survival gear.
Bottom Line: Enjoy the insulating power of the aptly named Chillwave.
Pretty warm, definitely good amount of down filling. However, I concur with other comments, I'm 150lbs and 5'7", athletic physique so I don't have massive shoulders or chest to fill the jacket out, but the arms still felt about 1 to 2 inches too short (NB: all I had underneath was a long sleeve merino baselayer, a very thin cashmere sweater, and I was very comfortable in about -10'C weather with a wicked wind).
UPDATE! THE MOUNTAIN HARDWEAR CHILLWAVE PARKA IS WATER RESISTANT!! The Mountain Hardwear Chillwave Parka is water resistant! Mountain Hardwear, the Manufacturer has validated that this 2011 Chillwave Parka is Water Resistant. It has a Durable Water Resistant (DWR) Coating which will prevent water or snow from penetrating the parka. Great News! I CAN NOW RECOMMEND THAT EVERYONE PURCHASE THIS PARKA! REASONS ARE: 1) Lots of Down - Has more than 12 ounces of down fill. 2) Baffled Construction - No sewn through seams. 3) New Technology to prevent wind gusts from penetrating. 4) Great Hood- Face Protective. 5) Water Resistant - DWR Finish - as already stated. CONCLUSION: The Chillwave Parka is very very similar to the popular Mountain Hardwear Subzero SL Parka - which was discontinued. If you liked that parka, you will also like the latest version - the Mt. Hardwear Chillwave Parka!!! Go for It! I will buy two of them this year! Keep Warm!
I am just wondering about sizing on this parka. I'm 6'4" and about 200 lbs and I'm just wondering if I should get the Large or XL. With the XL I'm just worried about having way too much extra room under the parka.
I am 6' 2" and about 185lbs. I wear a large in this, so i think you should probably grab the XL. The length will help with your extra height and the extra weight will fill it out enough, i suppose. Hope this helps!
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I am buying a down jacket for my sone who is going to college in massachussets in the fall. He has a MH monkey man jacket, a waterproof shelll/fleece combo jacket for the fall and rain etc. So i would like ot buy him a nice warm down jacket with some degree of water resistency that is not stiff and bulky like alot of the parkas. This is what I am down to: MH chillwave, MH hunker down, RAb Neutrino endurance, marmot ama dablan, marmot trient. Any advise? He is 5'8' 150 lbs, big shoulders (is a springboard diver) thanks
You could also try a Mountain Hardwear Kelvinator Jacket, which utilizes 215 grams of 650-fill down, is a little less bulky than the Chillwave, which utilizes 350 grams of 650-fill down, but does not have the same weather protection (Airsheild.) The Kelvinator does have a great 80-wash DWR that would keep a bit of the weather at bay. I agree, the Trient is a nice jacket but it is insulated with 100 grams of synthetic insulation (not down) and will not be a warm. It is very similar to a Gravitor Jacket from Mountain Hardwear, which I own, and when it gets cold outside I go for my Kelvinator every time. I hope this info helps!
Marmot Trient is what you want. All the jackets above except for that are quite bulky, and far warmer than what he'll need for Massachusetts in the winter. It's also waterproof.
What is the difference between the Airshield laminate technology in the Chillwave Parka and the Conduit SL in the older Subzero SL Parka? Are there any performance advantages?
From what I've seen, there is no real difference. Consider Airshield to be comparable to Gore Windstopper, and Conduit as regular goretex. Basically the same thing. MHW isn't very helpful on their website with the differences between Airshield Core and DryQ Core, so I would assume they're basically the same thing, perhaps with slightly different fabrics being the main difference. Expect the same performance or better with the new one. MHW puts a lot of effort into having great products, so you can trust they didn't cut corners.
Does anybody out there know of an 800 - 850 fill down coat with a removable hood? I'm one of those cold people!! I currently own a Lands End 650 fill parka as my winter coat. I still freeze my @#$ sitting on the chair lift. I want something warmer, but that I can still move in and take off the hood most of the time. i don't trust the warmth of a 650 fill parka. Thanks
david, Look at the Feathered Friends IceFall Parka. It features 850+ fill down, and has a removable hood. It is possible you have had bad experiences with 650 fill jackets because there was simply not enough down inside the garment. There are a bunch of 650 fill jackets that are top quality, and offer top warmth. In my opinion, the Chillwave is one such jacket. I've worn the SubZero SL (model before the Chillwave) in some of the nastiest, coldest conditions in the lower 48: Neg 20 F with wind chill around neg 40 - neg 50. Good luck with your next parka!
Short version: are the parkas sized knowing you'll be wearing multiple layers beneath, or do you need to size up?
Details: I picked up a large MH Sub Zero SL hooded jacket on a closeout and it barely covers my base/insul/shell layers (girthwise, not lengthwise), but I'm wondering if I should have gone with a medium parka. I am a medium chest-wise (39-40), but am 6'1" which normally means long/large.
I'm thinking of returning the sub zero and getting the Chillwave parka in medium to have the 3 additional inches in back (parka vs. jacket), but I'm wondering if the medium will still be sufficient to fit my shell and insulating layers beneath: is this taken into consideration when they size the parka?
I'm about the same size as you are and I wear 35/36" sleeves in dress shirts. I ordered a large and the sleeves on the Chillwave were not long enough for me and I returned it for a MontBell Frost Line. Can't speak to your layering question since I never got outside with the parka due to the sleeve issue. Hope this helps!
With the loss of the Sub Zero and Sub Zero SL products offered by Mountain Hardwear the Chillwave does an excellent job of filling in this space.
A slightly less heavily insulated version than the Absolute Zero, this particular jacket utilizes the new Dry.Q waterproofing technology. I would consider this a significant improvement as it involves the partnership of eVent and Mountain Hardwear, making it one of the most comfortable weather resistant jackets on the market.
I personally found that it ran slightly larger than some of Mountain Hardwear's other products, however nowhere near as large as companies like Columbia Sportswear or entry level North Face apparel. I am 5'9 and 140lbs. The reason I mention this is because when wearing the Chillwave in size small it sat about 2 inches below my belt line, which offered decent but not full rear coverage. The sleeves sat comfortable at my wrist, extended about an inch beyond the wrist line.
Let's talk about features. The velcro adjustable cuffs were a nice touch, however they tend to rub the material around them a bit creating some abrasion wear. The storm flap zipper covering is nice, but a waterproof zipper would be a preferred choice. I also enjoy that it is fully windproof, however I am curious as to why they would back the face fabric while not taking the extra step of taping the seams for waterproofing. This is a glaring oversight at a $340 MSRP.
I also enjoyed the micro-chamois lined collar. It gives a lightweight velvety feel that I found made me want to lean my face against, due to its soft and warm texture. I also enjoyed the way that the insulation was held against my body, offering warmth but in a non restricting manner.
Overall I would say that this jacket is a good choice for the price, but leans closer to the 3.5 out of 5 star mark rather than 4.
Thank you for the additional information! It makes a great deal of sense, and I wondered (as most of us did on the Mountain Hardwear E-Comm team) why the name was changed when the Chillwave / Hunker Down looked so much like the Sub Zero [SL]. While I can understand not using baffled construction, I am a little disappointed that the Chillwave is not waterproof as the Sub Zero SL was. While the Absolute Zero is an excellent jacket the 800 rated down fill can be a bit of overkill for the slightly cooler climates, where snow slush and precipitation are more likely to occur.
Mike. A couple of comments and answers to questions:
-The Sub Zero and Sub Zero SL are still in our line. We just had to change the names of the jackets to the Chillwave Jacket and the Hunker Down Jacket. This was due to an unfortunate conflict around the legality of naming things and Sub Zero was already taken despite being used in our line for 12 years. This is confusing to customers and we try not to change names on awesome product but sometimes it is un-avoidable.
-The AirSheild fabric and laminate used in this product is not an eVent product but rather one wholly created by Mountain Hardwear with our own fabric mills overseas. We partnered with GE (the creators of eVent) on the laminate but not the entire fabric. This may seem like splitting hairs but it is an important distinction when discussing textiles and where they come from.
-If we taped the seams and or 'welded' this baffled jacket to make the shell waterproof we would have a slightly under-stuffed Absolute Zero Jacket ($650) that would probably come in around $450 or $500 for the exact construction. The Chillwave's construction is not an oversight but is instead planned in our line to comes in at a great price, under $400, for an extremely weather resistant, overstuffed, baffled down jacket with removable hood! Also, considering cold weather for which this jacket is designed often mutually excludes really wet weather as it is often very dry when it is very cold.
I hope these answers and comments make sense. Thanks for a good review! Much appreciated!!
San. If you are looking for a down parka that is waterproof... look no further than the Down Town Coat from Mountain Hardwear. Although it does not say it on the product page, this urban beast is actually a waterproof, taped, insulated down jacket utilizing Dry Q Core. It will stand up to freezing rain!
Here is the link to it on the Backcountry.com site (cut and paste): http://www.backcountry.com/mountain-hardwear-downtown-down-coat-mens
And just to clarify, in addition to an industry leading 80 wash DWR, the Chillwave Jacket utilizes AirSheild Core, which is a laminate, for windproof-ness and weather protection, and will keep the majority of the weather off in cold conditions. It is not, waterproof because it is not taped... but, it is extremely weather resistant. I hope this helps!
Hope this helps! The Mountain Hardwear Chillwave Parka is NOT designed for constant exposure to the rain, meaning standing in icy rain for hours. It is water resistant with a DWR (Durable Water Repellant) coating. This helps. However, I suggest a Gore-Tex outer shell on any parka in which you will be dealing with consistent icy rain!
Got this on sale. Now its been awhile since I had a good winter jacket so keep that in mind! Man, as soon as I put it on I figured I had just tried on the most comfortable winter jacket I have ever worn. Went snowshoeing in -13 degC weather and I felt zero cold or wind at all. Having said that, this was too much coat for snowshoeing and likely other activities that cause a guy to sweat. Having said that, a person with layers could stuff it in the stuff sack that comes with the jacket and tuck it away in your backpack for later. The hood is great, the pockets are even super comfortable as they're lined with some type of fabric, so if you had no gloves for whatever reason they would stay toasty warm in the pockets. When zipped up the fabric by the chin is nice and warm. I found I no longer needed a neck warmer. I did sweat in this thing and simply turned it inside out at night and it was dry within a few hours. No big deal. Its got a pocket on the inside designed for a water bottle but I did not use it as it makes the jacket feel very lobsided. All in all a great, warm winter jacket!
What would be the lowest temperature with the moderate wind to use this parka in urban conditions? Assuming the air is rather dry and additional sweater or polar vest under the parka.
This is going to take you down well below zero, with 650 fill, a hood and additional layers. The problem won't be your body, but keeping your face warm.
I recently purchased the north star, and I'm returning it for the chillwave. The north star did not impress me when I spent a weekend in the colorado mountains where it was 15F at the worst. I'm heading to eastern russia soon and I really don't think there is anyway it would hold up against the cold that I will be facing, -35F..... Hopefully my new chillwave will prove to be the better choice.
Ito. Based on the info I can find on their website the North Star utilizes 200grams of 800-fill Ukrainian goose down. The Chillwave Jacket utilizes right around 350grams of 650-fill Gray European Goose Down for a men's large. Although the Down fill number is lower (650 vs 800) we use 150grams more down fill in our jacket than the North Star. More down = warmer. On top of that, the shell fabric called 'Air Sheild' is actually a laminated fabric that keeps the wind and the majority of the weather at bay even on the knarliest days. If I was going to Ulaan Baatar in the winter... I would take a Chillwave Jacket over the North Star any day. Cheers!
This is a coat made for really cold, nasty weather...weather that's worse than where I live. I couldn't feel right about keeping a coat that I might wear one time a year; the coat is too valuable for that. So, I returned it. Not because of anything lacking in the coat; instead, I could never put it to the kind of use that one of you who are reading this can. Sort of makes me wish I lived in Alaska, just so I'd have a real reason for owning this. Whoever needs a really well-made, warm beyond belief winter coat, go for this one. Enjoy it!
I really wanted this parka and liked the construction and features when it came, but the sleeves were too short for me. The product description says the sleeves are 35" and I wear a 35/36" sleeve in dress shirts, but the sleeves on the parka just made it to my wrists with my arms by my side. Moving or lifting my arms made the sleeves ride up my arms, so it just wasn't going to work. I returned it for a MontBell Frost Line which has much longer sleeves. I would say this is a great parka but it wasn't a good fit on me unfortunately,
I really like that parka but there is something werid about sizing... I had before Men's Medium size SubZero SL parka from Mountain Hardware and it was almost too big form me (I'm woman 5'8'' around 160lbs) The sleeves were perfect kind of tiny bit too long which I love a lot and I could still put fleece under if needed. Well... the new one... sleeves about and inch shorter and when I extend arm in fromt of me they are too short, and it's tight fit, just regular sweater and nothing more. I just gave it away to the lady that is 5'6'' and it fits her way better... I really can't imagine how it is men's size medium... Very small for men's Medium or they have some kind of manufacturing problem or labeling. Other than that it's very well made and very good quality. i would recommend it but take at least one size bigger than usually if not two.
The chillwave parka is awesome, super warm, constructed with excellent materials but unfortunately i have to return it. I'm a pretty small guy 155lbs 5'6" and i took a medium, sadly the the way the arms are constructed causes them to ride up pretty bad when you lift your arms up. To me this is a major issue especially if its freezing cold outside unless you plan on having your arms facing south your entire trip. I'm sticking with the Rab Neutrino Endurance jacket which is lighter and its arms move very much like the angel wing movement on Marmots line of jackets.
I recently returned the North Star Jacket from Montane for this, the Chillwave and I could not be happier! When I buy a jacket I usually look for 4 things...
1. Warmth 2. Construction 3. Style/Fit 4. Extras
The Chillwave has exceeded my expectations in every single category. It is by far the warmest jacket I have ever owned. I will be spending time regularly in temperatures that average in the -20's (F) and I could not be more confident. Granted the Absolute Zero has it beat in the warmth category, but the Chillwave is just such a good deal. The Construction of this jacket is simply SUPERB and the fit is excellent. Im 5'11" 188lbs and a large fits me perfectly with ample room to layer appropriately! I love that the hood is removable, and that the pockets on this model are fleece lined.... in my last few jackets they were not and that, to me, makes a big difference.
All in all this is my first buy from Mountain Hardware, and I will be a customer for life. This is a fantastic parka!
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