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good but not great.
im really dissapointed in the new age of parkas coming out of china. the jacket over all is good but not worth 650 dollars. the hood and pockets are great, not fleece lined but are like putting your hands in sleeping bags and will warm cold hands very fast. my biggest complaint is the sleeves, the down always moves to the back of the sleeve and this is the second az that has done that so im guessing china is dropping the ball there. there are also minor cool spots around the welds in the sleeve. my arms dont get very cold from this but is annoying that this happens with such an expensive jacket, luckily i got it on sale so its tolerable for me as the jacket is very warm and has tons of down in the body and does its job for the 450 dollar price i paid, but if you want true quality for the 650 dollar range then go with canada goose they take extreme pride in there parkas. DO NOT BUY THEM ON EBAY THOUGH. 5 out of 10 cg parkas were fake. im 5' 10" and 210lbs and the medium fits great with room for layers. it is a large fit so if you normally wear a large then go medium and so forth. also the jacket is good in 30 degree weather as long as your not exerting yourself. walking the dogs or watching the stars its perfect, ive been in 10 degree windy weather with just a t shirt on and was fine but you will notice the cool spots in the sleeves more so wear a long sleeve shirt.
has anybody had a problem with the down...
has anybody had a problem with the down moving to the back of the sleeves? mh says its not supposed to.
Throw it in the dryer with some tennis balls at a medium heat, and the down will redistribute itself.
its only a temperary fix.
Nope, it shouldn't do that and sounds like you have a defective jacket.
Recommended - a good fit
Just received. It appears to be all that is advertised. Size large is just right. I'm 6'3", and around 210 pounds. The coat is roomy but not too big, and the sleeves aren't too short, a nice suprise.
Warmest of the warm.
Whether you know it or not you have probably seen this jacket, or its full suit brother. This has long stood as the professional athletes choice for a high altitude insulated jacket. The 800 fill down is incredibly tight, and welded baffles prevent the cold zones inherent in sewn through baffle construction. In addition to this the fully watertight design is not only breathable but cuts out 100% of windchill. If you are serious about mountaineering you need to own something like this.
ULTIMATE DOWN PARKA + TOPS FOR MOUNTAIN CLIMBING!
THE MOUNTAIN HARDWEAR ABSOLUTE ZERO PARKA PROVIDES ULTIMATE WARMTH AND PROTECTION!
REASONS THIS IS THE GREATEST PARKA YOU CAN BUY:
1) Twenty (20) ounces of 800 Fill Down = Great Warmth!!!
2) Baffled Construction- Protects You From Icy Winds!
3) Waterproof! Conduit Laminate Outershell! Sealed Seams!
4) Great Hood: Head Protective and Face Protective.
THE ULTIMATE PARKA for the most frigid weather you can possibly encounter - Mountain Climbing or Anywhere Else!
1) Buy this Great Parka if you are a Mountain Climber or will encounter similar icy weather for extended periods of time.
2) It is The Best Parka Manufactured and The Warmest!!!!!
FOR ALL OTHER ICY CONDITIONS - THE MT. HARDWEAR CHILLWAVE IS THE TOP MT. HARDWEAR PARKA FOR 2011
1) It will protect you down to Zero Degrees Farenheit temperatures and below, and to "Real Feel" Temperatures of - 30 Degrees, due to 20-30 Degree Wind Chills.
2) Has 13 ounces of 650 Fill Down.
3) Is Water Resistant with a DWR Finish
4) Has New Air Resistant Technology!
5) Has A Great Down Filled Hood - with Head and Face Protection.
Strong and built to last many seasons - no cold spots here!!
Is the outside tough meaning it wont rip...
Is the outside tough meaning it wont rip on a briar right?
yes that is correct, it will/should not snag on a briar. it is made from the same conduit laminate as my Mountain Hardwear Epic rain jacket that i have beaten the hell out of. seriously, i have done everything to that jacket but take a knife to it and it is fine.
but, this is an "8000m" parka. unless temps are way below zero where you are bounding about, this is a way above the tree line coat. in any other situation you will probably sweat your ass off. think like you are wearing around your -20 or -40 degree sleeping bag---compare the down fill weight in some of the sub-zero sleeping bags to the down fill weight in this jacket.
check out the Mountain Hardwear SubZero Down parka to see if that's not more of what you are looking for before you buy this guy.
I do alpine climbing with my girlfriend....
I do alpine climbing with my girlfriend. Ice climbing, the works. We sleep out and always have to hit the sleeping bags before the tempurature plummets. I know this has a stuff sack. Is it completely unreasonable to think the AZ can be placed in a pack as a tent site jacket? Does it breakdown real small or will it take up half of my 50L pack?
The large fits into a medium size compression sack -- the same I use for my 0 degree down bag. In fairness, the bag is a tighter squeeze, but the AZ is definitely not small. Unless you need a totally bombproof jacket for extremely cold and crappy conditions, I'd recommend something lighter (maybe the SZ, or for some more warmth and super compression, the Feathered Friends Volant).
It sounds like the Sub Zero SL is probably better for you either in jacket or parka form, like Mads said. The Sub Zero SL will compress down into a thermarest stuff sack.
For those who wanted to know how the...
For those who wanted to know how the Mountain Hardwear Absolute Zero Down parka and Pants compared to Marmot 8000m collection here are the following numbers.
Marmot 8000m pant-296grams / 10.44 oz
Marmot 8000m parka-504grams / 17.77 oz
Marmot 8000m Suit - 692grams / 24.4oz
Mountain Hardwear Absolute Zero Down pants
257grams / 9.1oz
Mountain Hardwear Absolute Zero Down parka
593grams / 20.9oz
Hope that clears up which one is warmer, Also the difference in down weight or load from size to size is about 1.2-1.4oz. For example a Small has 1.2-1.4 oz less down than a medium.
Not quite sure this is a question. But for the record, fill weight does not NECESSARILY determine warmth. For example - there is more fill weight in the combined Marmot 8000 Meter park and pant than in the suit, but the suit will certainly be warmer because of its design. Other factors, such as distribution of material and construction (stitched versus welded, material of shell, etc) also contribute.
The shell should have almost zero influence on the warmth of the product. The material of shell is mostly designed to keep out wind and water. Virtually all 8000m products and one piece suits use a waterproof/windproof membrane. Goretex, Marmot Membrain, Mountain Hardwear Conduit, eVent. The only difference between the two are the Waterproofness measured in (mm/24 hours) and Breathability (g/m2/24 hours).
The MOST important factor in the warmth of a product is the actual Fill weight! Its the actual down insulation that makes the product retain heat. If you don't believe me look at sleeping bags made my Feathered Friends. The lower the sleeping bags rated temperature, the more insulation there is. All of their sleeping bags use 850+ FP.
Best parka ever
If you can't stay warm in this parka anyplace on earth, stay indoors! I purchased it for cold northern Michigan winters and it's a super performer. At 5'9", the medium seems a bit large, but I can live with it. Be warned, this is serious extreme cold weather gear. If your winters are moderate (20-30 degree range) the parka is overkill. But if you need comfort/protection for the absolute toughest winter conditions, you can't go wrong.
This parka is the ultimate puffy jacket. When you put this thing on, it envelops you in soft down and you immediately get warm. I slept outside in -20 degree weather with this parka on and stayed toasty warm...that's right, slept...I had no sleeping bag and this thing kept me as warm as my -40 Darkstar sleeping bag. It's very warm. There is one design flaw in this parka however. It only shows up when it's extremely cold and very windy. You may be able to feel the chill come through the zipper area when it below zero and very windy like on many summits, especially if you don't have many layers on underneath.
Hi, I'm thinking of this parka and wondering...
Hi, I'm thinking of this parka and wondering what size is right for me. I have L NorthFace Himalayan Parka, which fits just to me. I am 5'10" tall and weigh 76 lb. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks.
Kimi. I am guessing that you meant 176 pounds? If so, I think you would be most comfortable in the large. I am 5'9" - 155 and wear a medium. I hope this info helps!
Hi Kimi, I am 5 feet 10 inches tall and weigh roughly 160 pounds. The size large fits me well, with some extra room. You should be very comfortable in the size large as well. Good Luck. Great Parka!
I have been wearing the Absolute Zero Parka for about 1 month now and I really love it. I wear it outside for work and I have had it out in -10 F with strong wind and it was still very warm even though I was out for more than 1 hour. If you have the hood up and your back to the wind you dont even know that you are outside. If you have to face the wind or walk into the wind then you can just pull the zipper all of the way up and it will go up over your nose to keep your whole face warm. I have also worn it up to about 20 F and it is not too warm. If you get warm you can just pull the zipper half way down and control your comfort that way. The pockets are extremely warm also. I normally wear the black/white Hestra Heli 3 finger gloves with this coat and they are ok when you are walking but if I stand around for a while then I find that it is warmer to just put my hands in the pockets. I expect to have it out in -30 to -40 F degree conditions this winter and from what I know so far I expect that it will still keep me plenty warm.
the size does seem to run a little big. I am 6'2" and 240 lbs and I ordered the XL. It is perfect for me. I can wear several layers under it and the coat is still plenty loose to move around in. I do not wear it in the car though, I think that it would be too bulky and warm to wear in a warm car. So I just keep it at my office and put it on when I need to spend more than a few minutes outside.
My son is 5" 10 1/2 and weighs a very fit...
My son is 5" 10 1/2 and weighs a very fit 170....what size should I buy him? The reviews say it runs large....
jan. I would buy him a large. I think this would fit him just fine and he'll be VERY warm. I hope this info helps!
Just wanted to chip in and say that I'm 5'6"/135 and a size S is HUGE on me. Almost debilitatingly so, even...it's hard to do things while wearing it that require a high degree of ambulation. Mine has high-altitude dinner spill stains on it, for example.
I just don't think a size L an a 5'-10" dude would be the right choice. Maybe a medium? Just my two cents...
Size Medium is the way to go, Jan. I'm 6' 185 (fit) and wear a Medium in the Sub Zero Parka.
Mountain Hardware Absolute Zero On Aconcagua...
As warm as my house...nearly as voluminous...
Ultimate Extreme Cold Parka
This is an awesome piece of gear; it lofts so high it's hard to believe. It is very highly water resistant, that is, virtually waterproof. The cut, the workmanship, the overall design are unsurpassed. This is a parka I'd bet my life on. It has replaced my Marmot 8000m parka as my go-to piece for serious, killing cold (neg. 30 F, neg. 40F; that kind of cold.) If you think it's too expensive, take it out in that kind of weather; you will no longer think it's too expensive. You need to wear this coat for a while, to get used to how huge it is. I did, and I'm more than ok with it. If you have the experience with really extreme cold, and use your head, this coat will get you there and, above all, get you back.