If thirty-mile runs are a regular part of your training, you’re just right for the Masochist.
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Great, durable all rounder
I'm on my third pair of these. They're beefy enough to hold up over long runs on technical trails but light and responsive enough to wear for runs and races over shorter distances. On pavement sections, they feel fairly soft as well. All around, this is among my favorite trail shoes I've ever owned. I generally get 500 miles out of a pair.
MM Trail Running Shoe
I have been pretty happy with the MM shoes overall. I used them for training as well as racing a couple of ultras with no major issues. The traction is solid and the shoes were pretty durable. My foot is a slight wider than average and i did experience some "blow-out" on the outside of the toe box to the point that I could stick my finger in the opening. Aside from that, they were simply a great all around trail running shoe.
Montrail Mountain Masochist Trail Running Shoe - Men's
I got these in April 2011 and have been very pleased. I would have to say they have one of the best out of box fits out on the market. I personally haven't used them as a trail runner I have used as a light hiker and have put many miles on them. the traction is great and the TPU plate is very nice and haven't had any issues with rocks getting at my feet with pack weight. I feel very confident that I will be able to get at least another year out of them since they have held up so well. (I am normally between an 11 and 11.5 in other brands and went with an 11.5 in this shoe.
they are very good
I wore these for a R2R2R run in grand canyon and they worked great. I especially enjoy how they have a nice snug fit and good arch support.
Love these for hiking
I hiked 76 miles of the PCT with 45lbs on my back and these worked fantastically. Just supportive enough, super lightweight, grippy on the trail. I have the non-GTX and was really happy with how much they breathed and how quickly they would dry after getting wet.
Love 'em, highly recommend 'em.
Sturdy and lightweight. My first use was for an 18 mile trail run and they felt broken in right out of the box. A vast improvement over the last pair of Montrail shoes that I bought
Mountain Masochist from Montrail
Great shoe but I just don't love them.
These shoes have lived up to all my expectations. I wear them pretty much non-stop but something about them just is comfortable to me. I wear them for running on and off road and also as casual sneakers. The have been extremely durable, they have yet to fail me in grip, and all around what you want in a trail shoe. I guess its just personal preference and I think I'm going to go back to Salomon's when I retire these shoes.
I have to spend a lot of time on my feet...
I have to spend a lot of time on my feet at work during the day and need a very comfortable shoe. For awhile now, I have been using Asics trail runners, as they seem to be the most comfortable with the least amount of fatigue at the end of the day. The issue is they wear out quickly, and I wish there was more toe room.
I have been looking towards more trail oriented shoe to try and get more toe room, but they all seem to lack in long term comfort on concrete.
I tried on the Mountain Masochist shoes at a local store and they seemed comfortable with more toe room, but I am wondering how long they would hold up used primarily on concrete and how comfortable would they be after wearing them all day long.
Anyone use them like this?
Don't expect you would wear your trail cloths to work,so why would you wear these to work?
Don't expect you would wear your trail cloths to work,so why would you wear these to work?
Most comfortable shoe
I was in search of a new pair of hikers/trail runners for a while. I tried on numerous pairs from numerous brands and just wasn't satisfied with the way my narrow flat foot felt in them. As soon as I put the masochist on I knew I had found the shoe I was looking for. Right out of the box these shoes felt extremely comfortable, as if already broken in for me. There is a great deal of cushion in the heel and great arch support. I use these shoes for hiking and also working out. They are very flexible and give great ankle support. they aren't waterproof and if a cold breeze blows you can feel it through the mesh. I plan on ordering the Masochist GTX (which has a Gortex liner) and ordering the Masochist Mid GTX shoe. If you are looking for a flexible extremely comfortable shoe, this is the one to get.
Great for muddy conditions
I really like the way the feel on the trail. Solid. I have run in muddy to semi-muddy conditions with no issues. The feel true to size on length and width. I did by a half-size up. I normally wear a 8.5 dress shoe, but 9 in running shoes. One issue I have is on wet concrete. The shoes are like running on ice in those transitional areas from trail to car when wet.
Best Trail RUNNING shoe
These shoes are made to run in.
They were my second pair I plan getting a 3rd real soon. These shoes are light and comfortable they handle just about any trail. If your going to be running in sandy conditions I suggest the gore-tex version. The upper is super breathable which is great for long hot days.
If your looking for a great trail running shoe these are them. If your looking for a hiking shoe, well then refine your search and look for hiking shoe.
I train primarily in the foothills and mountains of Boise, ID I've run several ultras in these bad boys. I even ran 2 road marathons within 14 days of each other recently. I have a hard time putting any other shoe on my feet when it comes to running.
If you don't require any motion control due to any pronation these are the shoes for you.
I started my trail running way back when with the Continental Divide then the Hurricane Ridge, back to the Continental Divide. Continental Divide was a great trail shoe but I think the Mountain Masochist is just as good if not better. I run 3 days on the road and 4 days on a very ruff trail (lots sharp edged rocks) and the Masochist so far has handled very well.I have yet to roll an ankle so I can say I like the support. I just bought the Masochist GTX for winter trail running and I hope they do as well as the Mountain Masochist.
PS: I have not yet run an Ultra trail race in the Masochist but I bet they do well.
Light and Fast
The Montrail Streak shoe did not fit my feet so I was thrilled with the comfortable fit of the Mt Massochist. I have used this shoe on everything from short runs to a rocky 100K. There was not quite enough cushion for a 100K (for my feet at least), but these are great shoes for training runs of 20 miles of less. There is minimal cushion and upper protection on these shoes so if you are pront to kicking rocks and roots, these may not be for you. These are a great shoe to add to the quiver of any trail runner who is looking for a light weight shoe.
Tip Top Trail Runner
I personally love the Masochist. Have owned a handful of Montrail Streak's which I love as well but this takes the cake for the Montrails that I have owned. Great traction, fits like a glove on my size 13 medium width shoes.
Is true to size, nice toe box protection, roomy toe box too. They are pretty B.A. Barackus if you ask me.
In the end, I decided to keep these. For me, in most shoes, the issues are in the forefoot. My pinky toe often is unhappy and I need good protection in the forefoot, especially from pointy rocks in the metatarsal area due to an old injury on my right foot.
I was a fan of the original Hard Rocks for the bash shield and the roomy toebox, but over time I got sick of the crappy quality. After I destroyed a pair on my first run (tread lugs came off), I swore off Montrail. Since then I've cycled through New Balance trail runners, which I found great in terms of fit and being light and low profile, but I felt *everything* in the forefoot on the rocky trails I run. Lately I've been on the Addidas Supernova Revolution (the trail version of the Supernova... or is it the other way around. It might be the Revolution Supernova actually). Anyway, great fit, tons of cushion, but a pretty beefy, soft shoe. My forefoot is happy, but it's a bit of a soft ride.
I decided to try something new and bought the MM, Montrail Rockridge and The North Face Single Track.
The Single Track had a wide, but very low volume toebox. So that was out.
The Rockridge seemed like and awesome shoe. Everything was great except the very narrow toe box. Probably the narrowest of any shoe I've tried in many many years and at least 6 brands. After an hour of wearing these around the house, I could see that was not going to work at all.
So that left the Mountain Masochist.
The MM does have more room in the toe box. I would say it's on par or ever so slightly narrower than the Addidas or New Balance I've had lately. I traditionally run with Superfeet or some type of insole like that. With these shoes, not only do I not need that, I find the heel cup excessively deep and as a consequence the arch rather high. I'm afraid at higher mileages that might be an issue. I've worn them with an overnight pack (so 25 pounds?) for 10 miles or so over a mix of trail, talus and other scrambling and it wasn't a problem, but it is a surprise to have a shoe with such a high arch out of the box.
In terms of performance, I've liked them both running and backpacking. Good protection from pointy rocks, reasonably stable and all in all okay. I would agree, with the person who said there is a little bit of a high-heel effect happening (he said they promote heel-striking). I think the jury is still out on the heel strike versus mid-foot and most elite marathoners heel strike, but it does feel like a more extreme heelstrike than I'm used to. I could see that if your natural stride is midfoot, this shoe might push you into heel striking.
Finally, my size 8.5 weighed in at 10.8 ounces, which is the published spec for size 9.
Like the previous reviewer said, I wanted to like the MM and the Rockridge (especially that one), but a few minor issues with fit/design made me return the one and feel like I'm in testing mode on the other (when I find a shoe I really like, I usually buy several pair right away before they go off the market. I'm definitely not there with these guys).
win some, lose some.
really wanted to like this shoe more than i do. fits loose in the heel for me, and my foot has gotten bruised running in this versus my previous 5 pairs of cascadias.
Decided to give these a go and have been running in them for a few months now. I ordered two pairs (one orange the other green) and have put a solid 30+ miles on each pair each week since I received them and enjoyed most of it. After a nice 31ish mile long run today I decided that I love them.
They are true to size I wear 13s got 13s and they fit wonderfully. A lot more cushion than I am used too and a bit more weight (usually ran in flats or maybe a little more.) I was really worried about that at first but the weight and the cushion have not interfered with my stride, at least I have not noticed any change, and my feet don't feel like they are on fire after hard downhills so...
If you are into trail running or hiking these shoes are amazing.
Light and protective
These shoes are great! I've had mine for about 6 months and they still look pretty new. I run in them a couple times a week and hike with them 3-4 days on dry rocky terrain. The protection under the arch (trail guard) is perfect for trails with jagged rock. The fit is pretty true to size. I usually wear a 10.5 but fit into a 10 just fine in the Masochist. I would recommend these to any trail runner or fast paced hiker.
Sweet Jesus, pretty decent shoes.
I put a pair of these on out of the box for a 15 mile run today and I'm psyched on the fit and cushion of these Montrails. Though I used hardrocks for years as a general purpose shoe, I've never found a Montrail that feels narrow enough for my B width feet as a dedicated running shoe. These things felt locked down without being overtight from the beginning of the run until I was drinking a recovery Pabst. Compared to my other two shoes--the racing flat-like New Balance MT100 and the middle of the road LaSportiva Crosslite--these Montrails felt almost over cushioned at first. However by the end of the run I was glad for a soft midsole.
One aspect of the mechanics of the shoe about which I'm uncertain is the posting in the heel of the shoe. I have a medium arch and a pretty neutral stride, and although these felt quite natural out of the box, the posting felt designed to push me into more of a supinating stride, and this made my feet a bit tired by the end of the run. Of course, I'm coming from a bunch of running in super light shoes with no support, and a few days in Crosslites, which are truly neutral as well, so I was a bit disoriented in my footwork and I think it may have made my feet a bit sore. Of course, one should expect those things on one's first run over ten miles all year...