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A big-mountain hoss like the Moment Night Train doesn't care much for formal introductions or idle chit chat; it just wants to destroy powder. So don't go asking it about its rockered tip and tail, or how its flat-camber, 123mm underfoot provides more stability for your ride than Germany's economy does for the Euro zone. Sure, while slashing the steeps or hitting that big booter, you might be tempted to ask the Night Train what about its carbon-fiber stringers make its already bomber wood core even lighter and stiffer. All we can say is, don't do it; unless, that is, you like lookin' for trouble.
Twin rocker profile matches a flat underfoot with an early rise tip and tail for excellent flotation and maneuverability in variable snow and powder
Aspen and pine core provides a strong flex, a lively rebound, without being unnecessarily heavy
Carbon fiber stringers help reduce weight and adds durability
Sidewall construction enhances durability and increases stability at high speeds
All Moment ski cores are sourced from FSC-certified lumber mills in the US for supply-line consistency and to ensure sustainable harvesting
This is the ultimate ski when the conditions are anything close to pow or crud. There are a lot of fat, early taper skis out there and a lot of camber/rocker designs to pick from. The keys to the Night Train are: it's super light, and it's 100% FLAT underfoot. No camber. So it NEVER hooks up, never feels sluggish, never dumps you on your ass when that fluffy pillow turns out to be a mogul. Throw it sideways going like a bat out of hell, and it just surfs along with you. Point it through a crud field, and it just floats over all the ruts. Then get out on a nice groomer, and even with a half-ass tune you're putting down trenches like a race coach...and that makes it pretty much a no-brainer.
Personally... No I do not have any experience, but I am good friends with a few guys that tele on both of those skis. Of the guys I know they prefer the Night Train over the bibby to Tele. With the effective edge moved back from the tip and the tail it is a bit more Loose or floaty than a bibby, which is what I have been told is the reason they prefer it. Hope that helps.
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I'm deciding between this and the Bibby Pro, anyone want to argue for one or the other? I have last years obsethed which have a fat rocker, how big is tip/tail rocker? Does the flat camber hold well on groomers, between pow lines?
Hey there, I've skied both extensively, as I work for Moment. Both are great skis, but they do feel different, despite their similar dimensions. In my mind, the bottom line is the Bibby is a more powerful 'charging' type of ski, while the Night Train is a more 'playful' type of ski. That's not to say that each can't do the other, but each is more centered in that category. With traditional camber underfoot, and a stiffer flex, the Bibby rails turns harder and stomps. With a longer rocker profile and more taper in the tips and tails, the Night Train is more slashy/floaty/playful. I hope this helps. For an in-depth comparison, check out this review: http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2011-2012-moment-night-train-186cm
While shopping for a fatski, I rode a few different types of skis. Here are a few that came to mind: the K2 Hellbent, the Moment Comi, and the Moment Ruby. I liked them all in their own way. The Hellbents were super playful and great for chop. The Comi's were also great fun and incredibly stable at high speeds. Finally, the ruby's were a solid mid-fat ski, but not what I was looking for. I wanted something in between the super playful Hellbent and amazingly solid Comi. The Night train fit the bill. With a flat camber and slight rocker of the tip and tail they seem like they'll hold up just fine at high speeds on the hard stuff. But plenty soft and wide enough to play around when mother nature decides to give out free refills. The best part, they're super light! I can't wait to use them.
So I have ridden both skis, and I would say that the Night Train is a backcountry jib ski. The main difference between the two is the Night Train is a stiff ski, and is meant to be mounted 5cm back from dead center. However when I mount my Night Trains I put them 2.5 back to still land switch in the pow. However the NT is stiffer and can get after a bit more than the bentchelter.
Depends what you're interested in doing. The BentChetler is more of a backcountry jib ski. Where the Night Train is more of a big mountain ski. Both have rocker and twin tips, but the BentChetler has more of a center mount, where the Night Train is mounted a little bit further back and is more directional. Both great skis, just different purposes. I will see this though, Moment's build quality and durability is definitely top notch.
The mounting point isn't really that far back from center to begin with. I don't know of anybody who has mounted them at true center. I would imagine that doing that would make them ski really funky, as the spot being pressure during turns isn't the sweet spot/center of the sidecut/turn radius. Keep in mind too that this isn't meant as a backcountry jib ski like the moment bibby or the pb & j. If you are looking into center mounting both of those would be much better options. This is more of a big mountain pow ski.
This is the ultimate ski when the conditions are anything close to pow or crud. There are a lot of fat, early taper skis out there and a lot of camber/rocker more...
While shopping for a fatski, I rode a few different types of skis. Here are a few that came to mind: the K2 Hellbent, the Moment Comi, and the Moment Ruby. more...
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