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Guess who's invited to the mustache party?

Like a titanium throwing knife, the Moment Bibby Pro Model Ski is light, stiff, and flies with deadly precision. Moustache Rocker helps it float through pow in ways that knives never could. Why all this talk about knives? Because Mr. Bibby loves a good knife-throwing session just like he loves to stomp hard landings, ride deep pillows, and torch blisteringly-fast exits from tight chutes. Point this surfy, wood core slayer at something steep, watch it shine through the chop and the chunder and dominate when things turn truly terrifying.
  • UHMW Sidewall makes this ski extremely durable with great swing weight
  • Hand-laid Aspen wood core creates a stable, powerful platform for soaking up chop and stomping hard landings
  • Mustache rocker puts 15mm of rocker at the tip and tail for Powder, and 3.5mm of positive, regular camber underfoot for carving groomers
  • Reinforced binding mounting point ensures that your binder stays firmly attached through brutal falls and seasons of abuse
  • Carbon-fiber stringers and the VDS dampening system help this ski maintain a poppy feel that won't turn twitchy and unpredictable at high speed
  • Tough-as-nails DuraSurf base protects the core against destructive rocks and shark fins waiting deep below the snow
  • All Moment skis are handmade in Reno, where the only thing better than the boards are the slot winnings

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5'9" 210lbs strong, powerful ski style....

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5'9" 210lbs strong, powerful ski style. Like to go fast 50mph + Mainly ski Snowbasin. 190 or 184?

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I would go with the 184. I am 6'3" and have skied 185's before without any issues. They should be long enough for big mountain and sturdy enough for your need for speed.

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Great Big Ski

If you aren't familiar with the skiing style of Josh Bibby, I recommend you stop reading this article right now, turn on any Level 1 or Voleurz Movie, and find his segment. Watch it on repeat.

Done? Good. Now Keep reading.

As you are now aware, Josh Bibby has a certain adeptness to his skiing style that allows him to have fun everywhere on the mountain. From park and pipe to big mountain spines. His style and creativity are unique, and set him apart from almost any skier on the mountain. He is sometimes found in the park, but is a self-proclaimed powder skier, he won't be caught near a table top anytime it snows more than a couple of inches.

If this sounds like you, you are going to love this ski. If this doesn't sound like you, well read on anyway, the ski might surprise you.

It had snowed 3 feet the night before I took this ski to Snowbird for the first time. I woke up early to beat the crowds. Snowbird had received very little snow all year, less than 300", and it was already March. Not having skied deep snow seemingly all season due to horrible snow conditions, I was extremely excited to get on the lift.

Traffic up Little Cottonwood Canyon was moving extremely slow. Everyone in Salt Lake City was suffering from chronic PowderPanic, a serious but not fatal illness. When I finally reached Snowbird it was 9:30, but nothing was open yet. Avalanche danger had kept most of the resort closed. Trams were running, but only Regulator was open.

Fast Forward to 10:30. I was one of the first people heading up the Peruvian Chairlift all day. I got off the chair, hurried over to Silverfox, lined up one of my favorite doubles. As I looked around I realized that nobody had touched this cliff band. I took a few steps uphill and decided to air over the whole double as a single. I pointed my skis. Popped.

Now let me tell you, this ski is extremely poppy, especially for a 190cm ski. I think if the tail had a little bit more rocker it might be slightly poppier, but I'm happy with it overall. That being said, I am used to skiing powder skis with quite a bit more tail rocker than this. When a ski has too much tail rocker, if you land too far backseat off of cliffs, you will end up on your back. This has made me a habitual front-seat lander.

This instance was no different. I cleared the lower drop, put down my landing gear, and PLOMP... double tomahawk. It was at that moment that I realized this ski wasn't quite the same as my JJ's, S7's, or ARG's. In fact, its pretty different from most skis in the category.

I mounted this ski at +1cm from recommended. This might have been a mistake. Jury is still out on that one. I think mounting it at the recommended line might have been better. The reason I think this is the case is because of the camber profile of the ski. The ski has much less tail rocker than almost every ski I am used to, so while it is traditionally great for me to be a little further up the ski in a neutral position (to accommodate for the rocker), I don't need to be that far forward on this ski. That said, 1cm is not a huge difference and I got used to how it skis, after many tomahawks.

Fast forward another 15 days. I have now skied in just about every condition on this ski. Here is a quick overview of what I have found:

Powder: This is is honestly not my #1 favorite powder ski. Yes, it has a lot of pop to it, so you can bounce around through pillows and deep snow like you are on a much more rockered ski, but because it doesn't have very much rocker to it, and because it has a noticeable amount of camber underfoot, it doesn't want to slide, slarve, and surf around as much as I would like it to. My favorite powder skis; like the Armada ARG, Praxis Powder Boards, and Moment Donner Party; are all true reverse sidecut skis, with full length rocker to them. That shape makes much more sense in powder, and is honestly more fun. That being said, this ski is 118mm underfoot, has a fairly fat shovel, and a medium stiff flex, so you will not have any problem skiing deep deep deep snow on them. Just ski it a bit more traditionally and you will have fun. Off cliffs though is where I had to make my biggest adjustments. Normally on a rockered ski I need to land a bit more forward than I used to, to keep from landing on my back. This ski has very little tail rocker so you can land a bit more backseat than I am used to. And in fact, you should. Just be careful not to get TOO far back there.

Crud: This ski is actually pretty great through crud. It is stiff enough that if you keep your stance just slightly behind the center of the ski you can open it up fairly well and blast through just about anything. A little extra taper in the tip, with slightly more rocker would keep it from getting deflected, but it holds its own.

Groomers: With a 26m turn radius you aren't going to be making slalom turns on this ski, but if you open it up with a little speed it has PLENTY of camber underfoot and you can really put it on edge. Don't be afraid to arc a little bit longer of a turn, and remember there is still some tip and tail rocker on the ski, so if you get scared its not too hard to wash it out and slow down.

Park: Well, I haven't taken this ski in the park. I have spun off a few natural lips and cliffs though. I can tell you, the ski weighs NOTHING. Seriously, it might weigh less than some park skis I have been on recently. It's swing weight is seemingly non-existent. For a ski chat can charge through crud this hard, in the air it feels like nothing is on your feet. Seriously, get in the air with the ski, you will love it. Would seriously be one of my favorites for a BC jib ski.

Bottom Line: Moment makes great skis. This ski is not an exception. It is not my #1 favorite powder ski in the world. It is not my #1 favorite ski in the world. But it is a great go-to ski for all conditions. When you wake up in the morning and you aren't quite sure what the day will bring, you can be certain that you will have fun and not have to limit what or where you ski because you brought the wrong ski. This ski can kill quivers.

Powder - 8.5/10
Crud - 8/10
Groomers - 8/10
Overall - 8.8/10

note: overall scores do not reflect an average of all other scores. it reflects the ability of the ski to be used all over the mountain.

- skijosh.com

Does the Marker Dukes 110 brake fit the...

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Does the Marker Dukes 110 brake fit the 190 Bibby Pros or do these need the 132 large brake?

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I would use the 110 and bend them a little.

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I have the bibby 184, which has a slightly narrower 116mm waist. The 110mm brakes on the marker griffons fit without any manipulation. I would think that the same width brake should fit the 190 with a 118mm waist with only slight bending.

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Very Fun Ski - 190 Pro Mounted Manf. Sugg. Center

First off, I don't ever give 5 stars unless the ski is so amazing that it makes me want to quit my job, leave my family and live out of my car at the base of the mountain. This was a 4.5. My stats: 204 lbs, 6'2", ski about 35 d/y, Mammoth Mtn.

Needed a new pow ski so tried the Super 7, 196cm. Really liked the ski but actually had to lean back in thick pow in some cases. Did a ton of research and bough the Bibby Pro 190. Worried about length at first but it ended up not being an issue. One day of pow on each board but here are the differences. Bibby was more stable in crud, slightly quicker turning, but now as good on groomed carving as the S7. Both very close in pow, but I could stay more centered with Bibby. One thing with Bibby, maybe i need to detune the tails, but in compacted bumpy chopped pow, I noticed the skis tended to hook more the the S7. But, usually my pow day is done by that time. Ski felt overall short at 190, with a more center mounted boot than the S7, but that short feeling never translated to the performance of the ski. It felt solid yet quick. Great at stomping in questionable snow also. Held its line very well in windbuffed pow. Did lose a couple edges when hitting slick/bumpy spots. But overall amazing ride and made me want to charge harder than I am used to. Confidence inspiring ski. If had to do one thing over, may have mounted these back a cent or two. I do an occasional 3 off a drop but not a BC park skier. Felt a touch nervous, but again, didn't seem to impact my lines - just a feeling if that makes sense.

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So what's you overall suggestion? Im 205 6'5'' and Im between ak JJ, Bibby and...? Would the bibby 195 work better?

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Confidence Inspiring!!!

This is a confidence inspiring ski. Due to the stiff and damp ride quality, handles the chop and crud amazingly well. You can just blast through anything in your path. On groomers, carves well although I have never ridden it on bulletproof. Floats well in powder. Adept at small, medium, and large radius turns. It is amazingly agile at making quick, short turns as you navigate through a field of firm chop. A great balance between agility and stability. I mounted mine 1cm toward center of recommended, or 5cm back from core center. I ride forward direction only. Only go backwards unintentionally. I think I will keep it there. No nose dive, very nimble at this position. Cant wait to take it out again. Bravo, Moment!!!

I am 5'5" 130lbs I ski mostly very tight...

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I am 5'5" 130lbs I ski mostly very tight trees and occasionally groomers. We get about 4 feet of snow each season. Should I get the Night train or Bibby pro?

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Hey Cleary,

Interesting question. I think the 174cm Bibby Pro would be best in this case as it would thrive at that size in what you are skiing conditions and terrain wise.

The Night Train would have more than slightly better float, but definitely won't do as well on the groomed or the tight trees due to it's camber having more rocker in the tip and tail.

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Goodbye, quiver

I love this ski, it is super fun in all conditions. I'm an ex-racer, 5'11', 170, and ski the 190. On groomer days this thing can rail turns at speed on even the eastern hardpack. I skied 3 days of 2+ feet of Colorado pow on them and while a more devoted powder ski would float better, the rocker in these still allows them to stay on top. I would choose a different ski for a bottomless day, but I don't get enough of those anyways. Where this ski really shines is its stiffness. Mounted right on the recommended line these feel balanced and powerful, but somehow they are still quite playful and poppy. You can arc turns through crud without feeling the bumps, drop cliffs onto hardpack and straightline sketchy exits with the confidence that your skis will rage through whatever's down there. This ski is also surprisingly light and agile for its size. Once you get used to it (took me a couple days) it does great in soft moguls and tight trees or rocks. The boys at Moment do a great job putting it together in Reno, the bases and edges can take a beating. Ski looks great top and bottom and it's going to keep my happy for years to come. Thanks, Moment!

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Awesome

Yowza! What a fun ski. Took my new 184's out for the day with the kids and my concerns about their abilities on the groomers was put well to rest. Playing around on the edges and in the trees was a a dream. Going from full speed on the groomers into the chopped up edge snow was as smooth as silk. These are my first pair of modern skis (Went from old(ish) school 2001 Evolution skis to these) and have never had more fun on a pair of skis. These will easily be my one ski for all over the mountain. I was going to tune up my old evolutions for groomer days but I think I'll save my money. Don't think I'll be off the bibbys any time soon.

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Anybody compared the bibby to the...

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Anybody compared the bibby to the rocker2

Bibby vs JJ vs Chetler

Know these are all...

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Bibby vs JJ vs Chetler

Know these are all great powder skis but wondering, of the three, which is the stiffest and performs the best on the groomers and hard pack?

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Would have to say that the Bibby pro's are the stiffest out of those three. The Bibby's are more of a stiff, big mountain charging ski. While the JJ and Bentchetler are softer, and more focused towards playing around in deep pow.

After about two months of shredding on the 190 Bibby Pro's in Whistler, I'd have to honestly say that they are very similar to a stiffish park ski that is alot wider, and agile in deep snow. It charges in deep pow, stomps any size of cliff you huck, and holds a great edge while tracking the groomers.

A great all mountain fatty

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Yep, Bibby Pros are the stiffest out of the bunch.

Freeskiing World Tour Edit

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Video compilation from 2011 FWT season on the Moment Bibby Pro 190

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I am going into my 3rd season of skiing the 190 Moment Bibby Pro. I bought the ski to mount with Dukes and use primarily in the backcountry to complement a pair of 192 Moment Garbones (105mm version). After a few months of switching back and forth, I realized that the Bibby is capable of everything the Garbones can do. It has no speed limit. I've been maching through cut-up, bumpy garbage time and time again, and never have I reached a point where the skis felt too floppy or unstable. No matter the speed or conditions, if you have the power in your legs to make a turn, the Bibbys can handle it.

What is really amazing about these skis, as there are many skis that can handle speed, is that they are at the same time immensely playful. Just as they are comfortable going 50mph in day-old crud after landing a big cliff, it doesn't require any significant thought or effort to make short radius carves or smear turns, load up the tails and pop off a bump or lip, land or ride swich, or throw up a wave of snow for the camera.

I rode the Bibbys all season on the Freeskiing World Tour, and they never disappointed me. What surprised me was that I wanted to ride them no matter the conditions or terrain I was going to be skiing. I truly believe that they are the most capable, fun ski available, and should be at the top of anyone's list for a do-it-all ski.

I am 6'4" 190lbs. and was wondering if i...

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I am 6'4" 190lbs. and was wondering if i should get the bibby in 190cm or 196cm. It would be used for all over the mountain but mainly backcountry.

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If you're more into big lines and not concerned about weight, then I'd get the 196. If you're more of a tree or tight line skiier or concerned about weight, then I'd hit up the 190. Personally, if I were your size, I'd go with the 190.

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alright thanks for your opinion

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I have the 190s and about your weight and height, but I just got them and haven't used them yet (still rock skiing here).

Remember the 190 and 196 are totally different skis. Id say the 190 is an all-rounder, and good for jibbing with. Meanwhile the 196 has no camber and a much wider shovel. The 196 is also more pintailed, and the tail itself doesn't have as much rise as the 190. I suspect the 196 will feel more directional (ie: better with tips always pointed downhill).

I would choose the 196 if life was all big AK lines. But that's not how I always get to ski. So: 190 bibby pro for me. (Unless, of course, you can afford a big quiver)

I am 6'4" 190lbs. and was wondering if i...

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I am 6'4" 190lbs. and was wondering if i should get the bibby in 190cm or 196cm. It would be used for all over the mountain but mainly backcountry.

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You seem like a big guy...go with the 196. Also it depends on your style of skiing.

I'm 6'0 and 165 pounds, im a fairly agrssive...

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I'm 6'0 and 165 pounds, im a fairly agrssive skier, i like to charge big turns in deep snow when ever i can, but im from B.C. so also alot of tree skiing and pillow lines, and being able to bust through crud would be good too, so should i go bibby pro 184, or armada JJ 185?

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Go with the 184 bibby it will get the job done.

Bibbys in the trees

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I love my Bibby Pros

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Greatest Ski

I've skied most rockered skis out there and owned more than I want to admit. This is the first ski that totally blew me away! I'm 5'11, 180lbs and on the 190 with a duke.
Skis that I've liked:
186 ehp
185 Blog

Skis I didn't like:
185 Chopstick
189 One life
Hellbents

This ski rips! It can play around at slow speeds and blast the crud like a true charger. On hardpack, just tip it on edge and let it run. Only downside is it can be a chore in the bumps but if you're on this ski, you're probably not seeking out moguls.

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Can you comment more on your experiences with the Bibby vs. the EHP?

I currently have 186 EHPs and am looking for a ski with similar flex but a bit more sidecut to help with 2D snow. What I really like about the EHP in pow is that it can make short turns no problem but is also extremely comfortable running straight. Would you say the Bibby gives up some of that smoothness at speed due to its increased sidecut or does it do bigger turns pretty well?

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Also, lengthwise, does the 190 Bibby feel like a longer ski than the 186 EHP?

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why did you not like the hellbents?

Bibby Rocker Profile

Bibby Rocker Profile

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Decambered/weighted Bibby rocker profile. Taken at the Moment factory in Reno, NV.

Bibby Base

Bibby Base

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Bibby base, taken at the Moment factory in Reno NV

Bibby Rocker Profile

Bibby Rocker Profile

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Moment Bibby rocker profile unweighted, taken at the Moment factory in Reno, NV

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