Marmot Ultimate Guide Glove - 2008 BCS

These are the best gloves I've ever owned. I've used them in temperatures ranging from below 0 to raining and with the liners in they are very warm, just take the liners out for warmer days. I haven't noticed any of the problems some of the other reviews have mentioned, I can buckle my ski boots and open and close the zippers on my jacket without removing the gloves.

I just ordered these. Holy crap are they stiff. I can barely bend my fingers. I have issues gripping a ski pole completely. I comfortably wear a large glove and bought these in large, but they are a very tight fit. My hand feels constricted within the gloves, but the finger tip lengths and general dimensions are right so I don't think a larger size is the solution. Also, the shell feels as if it wasn't sized properly for the already snug liner, so wearing both feels extra tight. Lastly, getting in and out of the liners is a pain as for some reason the designers felt they should make the opening just barely big enough to put your hand through, making it quite an ordeal to pull them over your hands. The liner interior wasn't cut/sewn all that well and you feel the edges of the fabric at the seems, which I think is poor craftmanship as I don't have this issue with other liners. Lastly, I wasn't happy that there's no back of the hand pocket for warmers and such, but might not be necessary on such a warm glove.

With all the negativity, I will say that the build quality is generally excellent. I do like that there's hook and loop to hold in the liners, which is a key factor in my purchase, although with the liners' snug fit the hook and loop often doesn't keep them liners from pulling out on your hands. The gloves feel like they'll keep me very warm, used for the coldest of weather. I don't know for sure as I am most likely going to return them.

Liners aren't wool despite the description here.

Very warm. Solid consrtuction. The inner glove is great. The inner liner is a leather trimmed $50 windstopper type of glove. I like the liner by itself. When you put the goretex gauntlet shell the trouble begins.

Problems: Very big and bulky. The palm has way to much extra room. Stiff. Stiff. Stiff. I can baerly make a fist for a minute before my hand starts cramping. These are not very good for skiing. It is hard to flex your hand for any peiod of time. Dexterity is not very good.

I got them on sale and will use them for everything but skiing. I have a pair of Black Diamond Prodigys that are a better choice for skiing.

I'm a mitten-wearer at heart, but ever since I started backcountry skiing, I needed the dexterity of gloves so I could attach my skins in the driving wind and snow, and adjust my bindings, and use my avalanche beacon, and adjust my poles. You get the idea. So, the mittens had to go. Like most women, I suffer from extremely cold hands, and these gloves have performed better than I thought they would. I feel like I almost had to train my fingers to get used to being in gloves. When I first started using them, I was miserable and my fingers felt like they were going to fall off. Over time, it's almost like my fingers got used to being on their own rather than a big happy family in a mitten and were much warmer. On really cold days (sub-zero), I do insert hand warmer packets. I really like the windstopper liners because they allow you to remove your outer gloves if you have to and your hands won't completely freeze. In reading the other reviews and how people think the fingers are stiff - I don't agree. But then again, coming from mittens, any kind of dexterity is a bonus.

-Dexterity: 1 turn. Very rigid

-Removable liner: 4 turn. Best of breed - truly 3 gloves in one. I would pay money to have just the liner (windstopper Goretex fleece with very usable tacky grip - great for skinning.

-Wrist fit: 3 turns. 2nd best wrist strap of them all.

-Palm material: 0 turns.

-Overall Construction: 3 turns. Great glove even without the liner, very usable as a stand alone - I just could not see the palm material working out as planned.

-Verdict: 2 turns. I had high hopes as I was looking to replace my older Marmot Ultimate Ski gloves with a glove with a liner....the new palm material on this glove is very stiff and not lending itself to dexterity.

Not sure why these gloves are getting ripped. Just came back from Steamboat and loved them. No issues with construction of any kind. Liners are very durable and easier to get hands out of without removing them from the glove like others I've tried. It was in the teens in the AM and with the liners I stayed toasty warm. Mid-afternoon the it hit 32 degrees and I skied without the liners for perfect temp. Overall a very versatile glove. Probably the only thing I think should be improved is the clasp for holding the gloves together or on a jacket loop. The snap is pretty small and doesn't look that durable. Hestra does a much better job in this department. That being said, I used the wrist loops instead and rely on the clasp only for storage. I've got pretty big hands (8" wrist to fingertips) and bought XLs. They fit snug width-wise with the liners, fine in length with a little extra at the tips.

I got these earlier in the season and have since worn them in temperatures ranging from 0'F to 32'F. As a disclaimer I have to say that I have Rainods syndrome (and can't spell). That means the capillaries at my extremities constrict when it is cold and so I perpetually have cold hands and cold feet. In the single digits with wind they do not keep my hands warm. Above 10 degrees my hands weren't cold but I can't say they were particularly warm - for me that is completely acceptable. Anything above 20 and my hands are almost too warm. The liners are a great value. They can be worn as a glove by themselves as they have a leather palm. It is kind of hard to get your hand into the liner because the elastic cuff is tight; however, this also means that when you take the monstrous hardshell off you still have a softshell glove on your hand (always comes out when you take the shell off) that is nimble enough to use your cell phone, mess with ipod, and a number of other things. I didn't find the shell to be overly bulky like some people did, but I'm used to a heavy hardshell glove. I've never had a thin glove that can keep my hands warm.

End result: If Marmot hadn't given me such a good deal on them (turned in an old pair for 1/2 off) I would've bought the Hestra 3 Finger Military Gore-Tex glove.

I bought these gloves because I suffer from cold fingers while skiing, I ski in the NE and it can get quite cold. I skiied in Quebec in 10 deg weather and my hands were warm and toasty. Marmot puts out a great glove.

Great gloves. These gloves aren't quite as dexterous as the BD Prodigy's I had before, however they are much more versatile. The shell on the marmot has the water proof membrane as well as some insulation, making it a nice glove on it's own. The liner mine came with is windstopper fleece which is great for approach hiking or the uphill skinning/climbing. Overall I find my hands are much drier than with my BD Prodigy's (since those shells were just leather), which translates to much warmer in the Cascades.

The downside on these is they are expensive, but that's the glove market, these are certainly competitively priced with any other gloves I've seen. However, the finish quality on these gloves is *MUCH* higher than my previous BD gloves.

I'd buy these again.

The men's XS runs true to size, and is way to small for my female hand. The innner liner is pretty cool, in that its a glove its self. This system would be nice for when you need a light glove for a little bit for a sweaty activity, and then need a real winter waterproof glove. The outer glove is pretty burly. I don't think this glove would be good for a super cold day, as the liner glove is thin.

Very nice glove and durable construction. Removable liners are great. I am going to unfortunately return this item. The fingers are just way to tight especially with the liners. I couldn't even grip an object like a ski pole.

I purchased these gloves with the belief that theywould be good for extreme cold conditions. I used them snowmobiling in temperatures in the low 20 degrees and while using handle bar heaters I also needed heater packs in my gloves to keep the tops of my hands warm. Without the additional warmers my hands were not warm in the gloves. They worked at keeping my hands warm when the temperatures were in the30's. I was willing to pay the high price for gloves that would keep my hands warm in exteme cold but ended up paying a high price for gloves that are only ok. Not worth the high price.

First glove I've owned where I didn't feel like I needed to dash for hand warmers. Skied in temps ranging from upper teens to upper twenties and these gloves performed great in keeping my hands warm and dry. However, had issues with getting my left hand (with liner glove on) into the outer shell while on the trails. The pinky of my left glove seemed to get caught/stuck in the inner lining to the point where I just skied without the liner on my left hand. Recommend sizing up.

I got this glove thinking the Windblocker liners would be good for around town and then use the Gore-Tex shells for skiing. The liners turned out to be too thin for using solo, and with the shell it was just too much fabric in the palm and stiff for my taste. I could see fatigue being an issue when trying to grip poles. Returned them to try the Hestra Heli, based on the customer feedback they look like they'd be worth a try.

Supple, warm, form fitting and perfect for skiing Sunday River in Maine on a -15F breezy day in January. The best gauntlet gloves I've ever owned.

I found the gloves to be very stiff and too snug even going one size above what the sizing chart called for. The elastic cuff is poorly designed and does not release when you squeeze the spring loaded draw string clasp plus they are tiny making it difficult to squeeze them. The gloves are rated at 0-20 degrees, after 40 minutes in 16 degree weather with no wind my fingers were very cold on both hands.

For me you really have to deliver an amazing glove to
command a retail price of 160.00 especially in this economy
Your saying this is as good as the black diamond guides
Sorry marmot not even close way over priced .
Lacks in almost everything.