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After much public demand, Marmot reintroduces their extremely popular Men's Randonnee Ski Pants. Telemark fiends shed tears when these Marmot pants disappeared, but now they're back with two-layer waterproof breathable Gore-Tex Pro fabric for excellent weather protection. The Randonnee Pants' full-length side zips allow fast and easy layering and ventilation, and the built-in gaiters keep the snow out as you enjoy the pow. These Marmot ski pants even have removable kneepads for tele turns and integrated suspenders with a high back for pow-pow crashes.
Bottom Line: The classic Marmot Randonnee Pants return.
Been wearing them since the 08/09 ski season 60 to 90 day season. Rain, ice, heavy snow no issues with wetness. No issue other then normal wear and tear to material. Like that I can layer underneath as need for conditions. Most used @ resort and some slack country skiing. Suspenders do tend to fall so I just cross them to stop the issue. Knee pads are supper nice and can removed if not needed.
I bought these bibs sight unseen based on their rep and spec list. On paper, they seemed to have exactly what I wanted. In reality, they have all the features, it's the material that's the problem. The outside of these bibs are not made for any type of abuse. Case in point, first bc trip in these - I sat on a rock and ripped a 2 inch hole in the seat. Marmot fixed it, but not under warranty, so it cost 40 bucks. At least they added a cordura panel to the seat so that it won't happen again. If you are looking for something burly, this isn't the pant.
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These pants are very good for blocking out the harsh weather and the half bib length is perfect for keeping unwanted snow out. They are as previously stated not very durable so keep that in mind when out in the elements. The full length zipper is very convenient when you are too warm, just zip them off and stow them in the pack, they compress into small spaces very well and are lightweight.
Guys, There are so many choices it seems as to which pant i should go with. I am going to be doing some mountain climbing in april.... In Alberta (the Rockies) this will just be for some training for Kilimanjaro next year. Are these pants good for this or will they be too hard to put on or off. Noisy? overkill for this trip.... Are these just a shell? any advice would be appriciated im getting lost in the sea of goretex :) Thanks
If I were you, I'd recommend looking around for a pant or a bib that uses a 3-layer membrane as opposed to the two layer membrane used on these pants. The pants will be lighter and pack smaller, which is always important when talking about mountain climbing. Gore-Tex pro Shell is good stuff, although it is also the priciest on the market. While I like bib-style pants or pants with suspenders a lot, you probably want to experiment to make sure that you are comfortable wearing a reasonably heavy pack over top of the suspenders - I've known people that found this extremely uncomfortable. Also, as you get into fuller bib-styled pants, you start having more and more material acting as another layer of clothing on your upper body. It's not necessarily a problem, but you need to experiment with your layering to make sure that it works for you. I've seen many guide services recommend pants over bibs for this reason.
Things I would recommend rather than the Randonnee pant: from Marmot, the Torre or Exum pants; from Mountain Hardwear, the Argon ice pant or the Beryllium Bib or from Arcteryx the Beta AR pants, Theta AR bibs, Alpha SV bibs or Alpha LT pants. These are all 3 layer Gore-Tex pro shell pants from some of the common manufacturers. You might also consider pants made from eVent - backcountry.com's Stoic brand has a 3 layer eVent pant, and Rab and Westcomb make pants with 3 layer eVent also. In my experience eVent breathes better (it becomes less clammy inside), but it is also not as warm as Gore-Tex because of the increased breathability. If you don't want to pay for the Gore-Tex Pro Shell, you can look for pants using Gore-Tex performance shell, or alternatively look for pants made using each company's proprietary waterproof/breathable material (for example, Marmot has Membrain, and Mountain Hardwear has Conduit). I would just strongly recommend looking for pants that are made using 3 layer constructs of any of these materials. Hope that helps!
I had to wear these as part of our company uniform this past ski season. Qaulity of the stitching is sub par, sizing is odd, material starts to fail after a half a season of wear espically around the bottoms, I would prefer a snap closure on the side for the full length side zipper instead of the velcro, suspenders are at the wrong angles and the straps tend to fall off the sholders.
Had the 1995 version in a large but a ski resort rope wrapped around my legs and rope burned thru to the gore-tex. Resort is replacing them for free but I used to weigh about 190# and am 6'2" and now weigh 170#. Put them on for this season and they seemed quite baggy now. Went to a local Marmot dealer and tried on a medium but in the Cargo pant - fit great! Will I find this same fit in the Randonnee pant now? Length seemed fine and even though I don't like new school look and fit, these looked good. Any help out there?
I wanted to love these pants. Super comfy and full side zip, but the material is pure junk. I have skied them for 8 light days inbounds and they have holes all over them. I have pants that are 6 years old that show less wear and tear.
Finally decided to take the plunge and buy a set of lite shells for the BC...these certainly do not disappoint. The fit is very good, and the pants are very durable. The knee pads are a big plus, especially for touring when you frequently take a knee to strap your skis on the pack or take gear out. Only gripe is they seem to have a rather long inseam. Not very noticeable when skiing...but gators are definitely advised if you plan on climbing with crampons.
Perfect amount on bulk for the backcountry (don't overheat, but keeps you warm on blizzard days. They are very functional and move well. No problems with durability. Suspenders are easy to adjust. The suspenders have a tendency to slip off from time to time... it could be a slippery layer underneath, but it would be nice if the straps had a little more grip. Also, I sometimes confuse the side pocket zipper with the side zips (right next to each other and they feel the same).
If you are looking for something to keep the snow outside of your pants... I highly recomend these. I have used them now for Skiing and Ice Climbing I had to scramble through rocks, hit trees, and Even accidently got a little "wild" with my ice axe;however, these pants still are seemless and I have not had a problem with durability. The Side pocket side zip tend to look the same and i would recomend caution expecially if you didn't feel like wearing a base layer... Woops... Bottom line if you want a good shell these are not a bad choice and I am happy with mine.
Been wearing them since the 08/09 ski season 60 to 90 day season. Rain, ice, heavy snow no issues with wetness. No issue other then normal wear and tear more...
I bought these bibs sight unseen based on their rep and spec list. On paper, they seemed to have exactly what I wanted. In reality, they have all the more...