Marmot PreCip Full Zip Pant - Men's - 2007 BCS

I use these as shell pants for skiing. Wear them (usually) over some marmot 3/4 polartec fleece pants. They shed snow beautifully and are very wind resistant. Full zip is always nice as well. The zippers on the front pockets occasionally get stuck and those pockets are probably unnecessary anyway, but either way - for the money, these are a fantastic shell pant.

These kept me dry when I needed them to; on a rain-filled 3 day backpack in Yosemite. They do seem rather fragile though. I got a small tear near the left cuff, about a 1/4 inch in size. I guess that's why you wear gaiters. I'd be careful where I kneeled and sat as well. They fended off snow while snowshoeing and survived a couple falls while xc skiing. As long as you don't abuse them, these should be fine. Pack 'em and forget 'em light. Great rain pants for people who know they need to buy rain pants but don't really want to.

I purchased these pants last summer from a local outdoor retailer. I have rarely used these pants; in fact they are so new I still have yet to wash them. Recently I went on a 2 hour hike and in Oregon fashion it was raining the entire time. Back at the car I peeled off my Arc’teryx jacket to find typical dampness from trapped condensation, no big deal. On the other hand my nylon pants under my PreCip rain pants where completely soaked. It seems to me that using the descriptors “PreCip® Dry Touch Technology, Waterproof/Breathable” and “100% Seam Taped - For Full Waterproofness” are incredibly misleading and could lead to tragic situations if someone was relying on these claims to keep them dry (thus warm) for longer then a day hike.

I contacted the company directly to and received nothing but cold cocky altitudes and pre-scripted responses. Despite claiming that these pants are “full-protection rain pants” Marmot responded stating that the “Zippers are not waterproof, so water can penetrate them.” The zippers are located on the outside of each leg and if one is walking even a small amount of water is likely to find its way to the zipper resulting in less then full-protection from the rain. It seems to me that claims about this product have been stretched in order to increase sales not caring about the end consumer.

two detractors from these otherwise solid rain pants.
1) the velcro waist taps struggle to stay put.
2) the wetted out to quickly for my liking or use. after two hours of a moderate downpour, the thigh area had wetted out.
as a light piece for a day or weekend trip in moderate conditions, they are ok.

Backpacked with these in New Zealand in 1"/hour rain for 6 hours straight. My legs were wet all the way up the zipper line after a couple of hours. The water then ran on the inside of the legs and I was pretty much damp for the day. I wouldn't recommend these for heavy rains. Alternately I wore them on a high alpine trek for light rain/wind resistance and they were fine. Didn't like the extra weight of the zipper - at low altitudes the weather doesn't change that rapidly and you really should have a good idea of precipitation on the way and should have time to stop and suit up. At high altitudes where the weather changes quickly you should probably just be wearing some type of protection to begin with (I normally am backpacking in the late fall to early winter). Really regretted settling for these pants in the long run. If there is one thing that I would always recommend it is this: get what you want because in the backcountry you have to rely on your gear for protection.

I'm really happy with the third pair of Marmot Full Zip Precip Pants. I'm 5'9" and 160 lbs and first ordered a medium regular. The length was fine but the waist was too tight to layer over anything but a thin base. My wife got these. Second order was for large regular. The waist was good (but not baggy) but they were too long. Can't have crampon conflicts, right? Then I ordered this pair, the large short version. What a nice fitting, great rain pant. I'll have these with me for a winter climb of Mt. Washington this weekend.

Even though the full zip version is somewhat heavier, the time saved by not having to remove your boots is worth it. Very important when time is of the essence. This version seems to be more rugged than the pull-ons. Heavier duty material. Great for winter activities.

I bought a pair of these recently and put them to a pretty solid test as an overlayer this past weekend snowshoeing and winter camping on the Superior Hiking Trail in northern Minnesota.

The full zip was very easy to use for venting while actually on the trail, and afterward we spent hours in hip-deep snow piling and excavating to make a quinzhee shelter.

Standing, kneeling and crawling in snow for hours, and I was completely dry at the end of it.

I was a little suspicious of the velcro tabs at the waist, but with a hip belt on, pulling a pulk and snowshoeing for hours, I had no issues.

This is good gear at a fair price and it performs as promised.

Hiked on the AT in VA and TN with my new full zip precip pants. Fortunately our weather was very pleasant and mild. Only had one day of rain. It was however enough rain to fully test my new gear. The Precip pant kept me very dry and thanks to the full zip, I was able to get into them easily, without having to remove my boot. It was also great to get the air flow by leaving them partially unzipped!!! I am very pleased for the most part~
If there was a negative at all, it was the velcro waist closure. The grip on the velcro is not very strong! Bending over and squatting while in the pants proved to be quite annoying, as the velcro waist tabs easily separated from each other. Marmot definitely should put a more heavy duty strength velcro at the waist!! The pants were the proper size to allow for my base layer and shorts beneath, still had plenty of room!! A different strength of velcro is all that is needed to make this a 5 star gear rating in my opinion!

I can fairly say I put these to the test: they were the shell pant I used on my 31-day NOLS course in the Wind River Range. Through that time I found them to be plainly decent - no more, no less.

Good side: Light as shell pants go, full zips are INCREDIBLY useful for taking on and off, I would never buy anything but a full zip, reasonably waterproof/breathable, and a great price.

Bad side: Zippers are pretty poor; I'm not a big fan of the precip technology, neither my jacket nor my pants perform well at all; the pant is not very durable. At the end of my course I not only had a rip in the thigh (not their fault, I did it by accident, stuff happens) but also the pants had worn through in the butt and on the knees from use on rock.

A good starter pant, but only buy them if you can't afford better.

Great light weight pants. Packs small, breathable and waterproof. I too found the zippers a little stiff. I put some lube on them and fixed the problem. I haven't tested how tough they are. I have snow pants, so the no gaiter issue is not a problem. I was just looking for a waterproof, breathable rain pant and found them.

You should definitely go ahead and go for these w/the zips. The convenience makes the extra ounces/grams well worth it. These pants are easy on/off, repel water well, and the elastic waste is a nice plus.

These aren't gortex or Arc'teryx, but at $80 you can't beat 'em.

The pants are a little snug in the thighs. For winter use the is not much room for insulating gear. Overall they perform as intended. The full zip allows easy exit after a long trek. They are very durable with the rip stop nylon shell

These are horrific rain pants. They have never kept my really dry, they tear really easy, and the internal membrane is anything but durable - mine is shredded. I have the inside covered with gorilla tape at the moment from doing field repairs. Just garbage - never again

I've used these mainly for spring backcountry skiing where the only real use for any pair of pants is keeping you cool on the skin up and keeping things dry on the ski down. The fabric is very delicate, so if you crash on a rock or get too close to a tree, be prepared for a snag. My only other reservation is that the full zip, when used as a vent, requires both hands and a little too much coordination to zip up again. No gaiters means that you're better off using something more technical for powder. If I hiked in rainier weather than the Wasatch and Tetons they'd have a perminent place in my summer pack.

My wife and I were on a cruise to Alaska and planned some hiking for two of the ports. We were there in Sep which is their wettest month so we needed some good rain gear.

I bought these for this trip and used them nearly every day. They performed extremely well and kept me dry on hikes as long as six hours. The full zip is the way to go; it allows easy venting when hiking and makes it effortless to get over your boots.

I had to buy the Long Inseam version as I am 6'3". These pants fit very well in the waist and the length was perfect as the pant bottom went all the way to the boot and had a little length left. I will use these in the snow this winter for a couple of events and see how they perform then, so far, I am very pleased with their performance.

Absolutely loved these. Just got back from the Boundary Waters and used these quite a bit. Note to anyone thinking of the partial zip ones vs. these. GET THE FULL ZIP! Made things so much easier to get on & off w/ dirty/muddy boots. They were pretty durable though I didn't put them through the ringer or anything. Matched up great w/ the PreCip jacket.

Good lightweight rain pant. Love the long size... Finally a size for tall, thin people.

On the positive side, these pants proved to be waterproof, lightweight, breathable and did the job on the Boundary Waters Canoe Wilderness for 6 days. Negatives - I'm a 33 waist and after exchanging a medium for a large I found the large was still pretty tight over even shorts. I have no idea what a larger person would do to get a good fit. If you totally unzip the legs, don't expect to get them back on fast in a rain shower (or when the mosquitoes are eating you alive!) Oh, and keep your 100% DEET away from these guys! One of our party had the DEET eat their rainpants! I also found that I had to be careful when kneeling on rocks etc - they do feel fragile. Bottom line - If I were buying again I'd try a different brand. I love my precip rain top, but can't say the same for the pants.....(as anyone who was on our trip with me will attest to!)

Fit my 6'4" son perfectly..he is thin too, and I got an XL.
In truth, have not given them a season of rain to test that part though.

So these rainpants are pretty do-able for a good price. They are pretty hard to get on, and once they're on they're not easy to drop for a quick tree. They do block rain, and have ventilation, add a good pair of gaiters, Sierra Designs jacket, and gortex boots and be set for a rainy hike.

Great pants for easy hikes in mild weather. great for beginning mountaineers

These are what I take backpacking, hiking or as an emergency waterproof layer on alpine climbs to go over my softshell pants. They are pretty durable for their weight and a good medium fitting pant (not tight or loose). They shed the water very well. Would like to see a waterproof zipper running down the sides to reduce bulk and weight more.

Though the pants had good breathability and waterproofness, the full length zippers are overkill and repeatedly got stuck in the underlying flap of material during the course of one year's wear in the backcountry. Made quick on/ off difficult, a true must for the Montana Rockies.

For any backpacking, this is not the right pant. Due to the full side zips, there is no good waist tightening system. No belt loops so that is not an option either. when I fist bought these pants i loved them but as soon as i wore them with my backpack on they would start to slide down. If you are not planning to be carrying a pack while wearing the i would recomend them because they are comfortable and have pockets to store things.