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A lightweight shelter that offers heavy-duty protection.
There's no need to carry a heavyweight, bombproof shelter when the ultralight Marmot Force 3P Three-Preson Three-Season Tent keeps you just as dry and weighs a whole lot less then many other tents (under four pounds). While the mesh walls help keep weight down, they also keep air circulating, which prevents condensation from turning your tent into a drippy cave. The fully seam-taped fly also has a vent to encourage circulation even when you've battened down the hatches against the storm, along with two large vestibules to keep boots and packs from getting rained on.
Pitching a tent should take just a few minutes, not half an hour, so Marmot used color-coded clips to make sure the DAC NFL aluminum poles were super easy to slip into place. They're also optimized to provide extra space for your head and feet, letting you sit up and lay down comfortably. Two D-shaped doors provide easy entrance and reduce the likelihood of trampling, and all the Force's zipper pulls are designed to reduce jingling, so a light breeze won't turn into a sleep-ruining ordeal. Inside, the Lamp Shade headlamp pocket helps provide ambient, lantern-style light to the whole tent, while the other accessory pockets keep your small gear safe and easily accessible when you're sleeping under the stars or riding the storm out.
- Mesh body
- Vented fly
- Fully taped fly and floor seams
- Two D-shaped doors and vestibules
- Extended head and foot zones
- DAC NFL aluminum poles and color-coded clips
- Lamp Shade headlamp pocket and interior stash pockets
- Noiseless zipper pulls and reflective points
- Item #MAR00J4
- Q & A
Light but not durable
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I understand that lighter backcountry gear is more fragile but the materials and quality control seems to be lacking a bit with recent marmot tents.
This is my third marmot tent (after a stormlight and fuse 3p). The stormlight was burly although quite a bit heavier. The fuse was fairly strong but failed after a season and about 40 nights out. The force already is showing the same weak points as the fuse. The mesh is very thin and came from marmot with several small "snags" where the mesh does not seem to run straight and overlaps. These areas as well as high tension areas along the doors and along where the tent clips to the poles all developed holes in my fuse3p and are already showing similar signs in the newer force3p.
The tent's strengths are its large size for its weight and a strong light rainfly. Other than this is is not super strong in the wind unless you face it certain ways and guy it out extensively. It also has not inspired great confidence in the rain or in sand since the mesh runs almost entirely to the ground. During heavy rain or windy rain some water does get in on the lower end.
That being said marmot's warranty department has been great and replaced my fuse with this force so I can't complain too much. I now use it strictly for backpacking when weight is essential to limit the use on it.
What a great tent, recently caught in a desert wind/rain storm. Was able to hunker down with 2 dogs and stay perfectly dry and safe. It has a relatively low profile that allows it to not blow around as much. Set up is a breeze
Marmot Force 3P Comprehensive Review
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
Sorry to start on a negative point but I wouldn?t call the Force 3P an ?easy? tent to set up (not idiot proof, anyway). While the arch poles at each end of the tent are fitted with hubs, the spine pole has little plastic washers between the last two segments that have to be snapped into the hubs each time you setup the tent. I?ve done it a few times now and I?ve gotten the routine down, but compared to designs in which the poles are permanently connected by hubs (e.g. the Limelight), this is far more ?fiddly.? I?m not sure how much fun this would be to setup in a downpour; Marmot advertise this model as having ?bare bones setup? ability (ground sheet sold separately) but I?m dubious that it could be ?dry-pitched.?
In terms of overall design, the Force 3P seems very structurally sound. I?ve only had it out in fair weather, mind, and will have to report on waterproofness and wind stability later. But let?s get down to brass tacks: the space ? there?s loads of it. For such a light tent, it?s incredible. I do not possess the camera equipment capable of conveying the sheer cavernousness of this tent. Marmot?s new design of extending the ends of the tent beyond the footprint really does make a huge difference. This tent could sleep 4 adults in a pinch and comfortably accommodates 4 sitting cross-legged without as much hunching as you?d expect from a typical X-frame dome tent. My two-year-old?s first impulse upon entering the Force 3P was to start doing laps around the inside of it!
The tent comes with:
? 6 simple round alloy stakes with a crook at the top which are 15 grams each compared to the 18 gram hexagonal stakes from the previous generation Limelight 2P,
? cheap non-reflective guy line and plastic tensioners,
? an alloy tube for splinting a broken tent pole,
? and 2 generous sized pieces of waterproof rip-stop with an adhesive backing.
With everything in the bag, it weighs in at 1,945 grams (4lbs 4.6oz) on my kitchen scale. Awesome.
While there are many tents on the market that achieve lighter weights than the Force 3P, they do so by shedding, what are for some, critical features. Comparing this to other freestanding tents, I am very happy with the purchase. It is lighter and yet significantly more spacious than, for example, the MSR Mutha Hubba NX (which made a big deal of itself when it announced a massive weight-loss last year). Did I think seriously about getting the Fuse 3P instead for the added assurance of that bombproof fly? Of course. I just hope that the weight savings with the Force 3P doesn?t come with too many compromises and that my toddler doesn?t put a stick through the fly in the middle of a backpacking trip.
Here are some design elements that I think could do with improvement:
? As stated above, permanently link the poles together with hubs.
? The ends of the kickstands that prop the vents open are fitted with the ?spikey? hook and loop rather than the ?fuzzy? side. While the spikey side faces the inside of the fly (up) when the vents are closed, it managed to snag the mesh of the tent body the first time I set it up, causing a small run in the mesh of the tent body; I don?t think a mosquito could fit through, but it?s a run nonetheless. I?m not going to cast judgement on the durability of the all-mesh tent body so early into testing, but I?m definitely going to be keeping an eye on it.
? The cordage used for the stake out loops is reflective while the cordage included for guying is non-reflective and larger diameter. While it may be slightly stronger, I can?t help but think it more likely that it?s simply cheaper. This is a premium tent, Marmot. Give us reflective guy lines.
? Due to the new headspace design, when the fly is guyed out there is a space above the head of the tent body like a mini-vestibule. It would be nice to have zippered access to this area like Sierra Designs is doing with its 2015 line, calling them ?gear closets.?
Marmot Force Tent: 3-Person 3-Season
Sorry, I don't think I worded it right: how much does it weigh when set up with the footprint, fly, and poles (no main body).
Hey! How much do you think this tent weighs in the barebones setup?
Hey Chris - The Poles, Body, and Fly of this tent weigh 3lbs 15oz (1785g). Feel free to contact me directly with any additional questions.
- Kyle L. - Expert Gearhead
Whyfore I can not find any info about this tent anywhere on the interwebs? I would like to see more pictures and maybe a cool video before dropping a bunch of cash on this tent. I like what I see so far, but would like to know more.
It's a brand new design for 2015. I expect more information is coming. It appeared here and on REI's site long before it showed up on Marmot's own site. Pretty impressive looking; larger yet lighter than the Mutha Hubba NX...