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Is there anywhere too cold for the Marmot 8000M Parka? Not on this planet.

Explore the highest, coldest places on earth with the high-loft warmth of the Marmot Men's 8000M Parka. Created for places like the summit of Everest and the North Pole, this Marmot jacket packs 800-fill down inside a waterproof breathable MemBrain shell for the ultimate in cold weather protection. The 8000M Parka has reinforced shoulders to protect it from pack abrasion on your summit push, and hand-warming pockets bring the feeling back to your fingers after you snap your summit shot.

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3 5

Good with some flaws

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: Runs large

I have been wearing this parka regularly around town. (I do not hike or climb.) This parka, in spite of a number of flaws, is a keeper.

The plusses: This is a very warm parka.

There are an adequate number of good-sized pockets. Storage for a water bottle, was excluded.

The minuses: The 3000M does run a bit large, which is not a problem in my case.

The snow skirt design and it placement is absurd. Without a "bib" the use with which the skirt was designed (according to Marmot) puts the skirt at the wrong height. I am not a climber and do not know what a "bib" is but the snow skirt is the wrong shape. Its ends are at an angle rather than being perpendicular to the skirt itself and its width at the ends should have required a third snap to close it. Two is not enough.

For those reasons, the snow skirt is virtually worthless and I may remove it.

The 300M is warm though. I have tried a number of expedition and very warm parkas and will keep this one, assuming Marmot can fix the serious problem with the zipper, (It is a double pull zipper and that's convenient.) in spite of the 3000M's shortcomings.

The zipper is a nightmare. It cannot be zipped up without the slider catching on the interior material. I complained to the Marmot Warranty department who said that if I ship the parka to them they will sew a "tape" into the lining that will allow the zipper to slide up without catching. (We'll see.)

The hood has one adjustment, around its front edge. Adjusting it to become snug around the head and ears, pulls the front of the hood down over the eyes. So, if you order this parka, also order a climbing helmet to take up some vertical space in the hood to allow it to be snugged around your ears.

The exterior pockets are cargo pockets. They are good for storing things since they are closed with zippers and have a flap over that , but they are not nearly as warm as would be hand-warmer pockets with soft fabric linings, since the cargo pockets have none.

4 5

Crazy warm but too puffy

  • Gender: Male
  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: Runs large

I've been looking for a super warm jacket for this crazy Chicago winter and with the exception of it's puffiness, I thought that the Marmot 8000m was great. Size wise it ran big--I'm 5'10, 200 and the large fit but I had plenty of room.

5 5

Warm and Toasty

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times
  • Fit: Runs large

This jacket ran 2 sizes too large. Now that I have the medium it is perfect. I LOVE it. We just happen to have an especially cold winter in Michigan this year. This is perfect for walking my labs 4-5 daily

Does these newer ones still have a Powder...

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Does these newer ones still have a Powder Skirt?

I love the Powder skirt.

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Hey Jake,

This does still come with the Gripper Elastic Powder Skirt.

5 5

WARMEST JACKET

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
  • Fit: True to size

I have used this jacket sitting still in minus 37 degrees with 40mph winds for 3 hours plowing my driveway with an open tractor, and never got cold.

It is a bit poofy for active adventures but is great for the end of the day when you stop for camp.

I am greatful for the offer from Marmot to offer me a discount on a replacement after my wife sat too close to the fire and slightly melted the shell. Though they did nothing wrong, they were willing to help out.

5 5

Toasty at -40F

  • Gender: Male
  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

Took the Parka and Pants on my Arctic Ocean Expedition this past February they performed amazingly! Between the overstuffed parka monster hood and easy full zip pants this unit is solid for any extreme cold situation! The Full zips made it a snap to pull on an extra layer while resting without popping off my skis or snow snows. and the oversized jacket fits over every other layer i have making it the ultimate over suit!

Toasty at -40F

Why not just go 900 fill? I mean you're...

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Why not just go 900 fill? I mean you're making a $600 jacket you call "8000M". Just use the extra 100 fill for god's sake!

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My guess would be that there were design and pricing desicions that were made that did not make 900 fill down the right choice here. 900 fill down is not all that readily available and it is exponentially expensive. The main benefit of using 900 would likely be a little bit more compressability which is more of a concern on fast and light ascents and in trimmer pieces. In a high altitude parka, you are already bringing the kitchen sink so a little less compressibility for a decent price reduction was likely what they envisioned their target user wanted. If you want a 1000 fill down parka I would take a look at the Patagonia Encapsil, if you can find one ;-)

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I just wanted to add some info for the original poster.
The number before -fill refers to the fineness (think particle size) of the down, not the weight of the down that particular item has in it.
The higher the number, the finer the down. Like Arthur said, it packs smaller and it insulates better because the finer down makes for more surface area and dead spaces.

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Here are the issues I have with Arthur's answer:
-Benefit would not just be better compression, but better loft, therefore more warmth for equal weight (higher fill = better insulation for less weight). This is useful in all cases.
-900 fill is more expensive, but not exponentially. I have a 900 fill sleeping bag for example, that has 14-15oz of down - the bag cost just over $400. If you are going to spend $600 on a jacket and go risk your life in a remote area potentially above 8000m, you might as well spend slightly more and get the max warmth/weight possible.
-Patagonia Encapsil has a high fill #, but not an especially generous amount of that down (the entire jacket weights I think 16-18oz). I know they are already working on a 1200 fill version, glad to see the advances in technology.

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It's a bit shortsighted to assume that higher fill power is immediately better.

For a summit parka designed for extreme conditions, a major consideration is how it will fare in extreme winds. A slightly lower fill power down will be less compressible and thus create puffier, sturdier baffles (which won't collapse as easily under high winds). This is why you will see many high-end summit parkas opt for 800 fill goose down or 700+ fill mature duck down (which has a smaller proportion of quills to down clusters).

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Higher fill power is not always better. First, you can always compensate or slightly lower fill power by using more ounces of the lower fill power down. Fill power does not equate to warmth. Secondly, higher fill power (the really light and lofty stuff) also loses loft very quickly when it is exposed to humidity (like your body's sweat loss), and a 900 FP down jacket will look anemic when exposed to sweat and humidity or dirt and oils when compared to a 700 FP down jacket of the equivalent warmth. Lower fill power down is more resilient to those short-term loft losses.

Unless you care about the ultimate light weight compressibility, the fill power argument is really overblown. Also, there is no such thing as 900 fill power unless you're talking about the Patagonia Encapsil stuff which has been treated. Fill power ratings are so overblown and overestimated that people who claim 900 FP are almost always exaggerating. The highest quality down in a Valandre garment or a Western Mountaineering sleeping bag won't be claimed to be 900 FP even though I know it is as good or better than anyone else's down that is claimed to be 900 FP. Some manufacturers don't exaggerate their down quality while others do. If I am getting 93/7 or 95/5 down from mature European geese, I won't be asking for the fill power rating because I know I'm getting some of the best.

Thirdly, you need to assess the cost-benefit analysis for the manufacturer. You could use the highest quality down possible and add another huge cost to the selling price. Now that the wholesale cost of down has more than doubled in the past 1 1/2 years (this is written in January 2014) you would be looking at nosebleed prices if everyone were to look for 850+ fill goose down in everything. There's a reason why manufacturers have shifted to high quality duck down as an economic alternative.

Anybody know, if it comes with a stuff...

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Anybody know, if it comes with a stuff sack, and what dimension does it compress to? Can't seem to find that info online..

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Hey Joe,

Yes, this comes with a stuff and storage sack. Also, no exact dimensions when compressed, but it is probably about the size of a football.

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I've gotten it into a 10L drybag with a roll or two, and into an open-ended 5L OR drybag

5 5

Hottest gear ever

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

Simply put: You could be naked in this at forty below and be comfy.
This jacket is the definition of warm. I am riding my bike to go to work in the YT, no matter the temperature. -45 in this jacket is a breeze. Too hot. Sweating.
I usually don't take time to write a review...but this one deserve it. I have seen some people with MH jacket Absolute Zero, they are not as puffy as the Marmot 8000m.
This jacket, combined with a good layering, is ready for -70�.

Hi All,

I'm looking at the North Face...

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Hi All,

I'm looking at the North Face Himalayan suit, the Marmot 8000m and the Mountain Hardwear Absolute Zero suits.

My main question is, are these suits actually designed as outer wear or are they designed to be worn with a windproof and waterproof shell over the top, particularly if conditions turn nasty?

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Windproof yes. Not sure you would encounter liquid water at the temperature those suits are going to be in.

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They are made to be outer wear. They are so puffy that you can't put anything over else. You won't even climb Denali with it during the day, too hot. When the wind goes up and the sun goes down, you put this thing over all your layer. It is a shelter.

I am 5'8" tall and 160lb. Mychest size is...

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I am 5'8" tall and 160lb. Mychest size is 39.5". Which size is best for me? For temperature at 10F is 8000M the best product. Or I should Marmot Greenland ? Are both waterproof?

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This one will be too hot for 10F. Go with the Greenland.

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I'd rec a lighter jacket like the Rab Neutrino or a Norrona at 10F. For cold temps, this is hard to beat for durability and warmth but above -10 there are plenty of good options

Do you ship your selling items to Taiwan?...

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Do you ship your selling items to Taiwan? I am interested in buying things from you. Do you accept credit cards ( visa/mater card) issued overseas? Henry Lee

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Hey Henry, you probably already have an answer to your question, but for future reference BC's International shipping policy is in the FAQ at the bottom of the page. Best of luck!

5 5

Winter in Alaska

Skied in and tried to climb Mount Drum two winters ago with this jacket. Ambient temperatures down to -45F. Awesome jacket! Wore this every morning and evening while cooking and put it over my feet for extra warmth at night.

5 5

Toasty hot

I took this jacket up Aconcagua and I couldn't believe how warm it was. After all my conventional layer wouldn't cut it in the cold weather this guy made it all go away. I found it to be too cold once I really started getting active.

denali summit

denali summit

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My favorite parka. Wore it on Denali. Pulling into camp and slipping on this gem was heaven. The front pockets instantly warm your hands and the massive interior pockets swallow a waterbottle, spare mittens and some snacks easily. Summit was -30 F with windchill. Stayed there completely exposed for 30 minutes before needing to get moving. Otherwise, was warm the entire trip.

So, I've been trying to decide between a...

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So, I've been trying to decide between a few options for a down parka/jacket and discovered it's rather difficult to track down the down fill weights.

After finally getting them, I thought I'd post them for easier comparison by others.

product (sz. L) weight (oz.) fill weight (oz.)
MHW A0 45 20.9
Marmot 8000m 40 19.17
EB peak XV 34.6 13.6
Marmot greenland 31 10.5


From EB customer service on fill weights for the peak XV jacket
S M L XL XXL
FILL WEIGHT (OZ) 12.08 12.76 13.6 14.5 15.31


MHW A0 (source: other commenters)
Marmot 8000m (source: other commenters)
EB peak XV (source: EB rep)
marmot grnlnd (source: backcountry rep)

Enjoy.

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Yes very helpful. Although I own the Peak XV and feel it is worth pointing out the fill power is 850 and not 800 as with the others (true of both the 2010 and 2011 versions).

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Good point on the 850 vs. 800 fill power.

A rough, first-order, conversion between the two is possible, assuming full loft, etc., by simply multiplying the weight of 850 fill-power down by 1.0625 to arrive at an 'equivalent' weight of 800 fill-power. (850/800=1.0625).

Thus, the 13.6 oz of 850 down in the EB is 'equivalent' to about 14.5 oz of 800 fill-power down.

Also, I got some info on the new Mountain Hardwear Nilas Jacket (850 fill-power):

weight fill weight
22.25oz 7.6 oz (~8.1oz 800 fill-power equivalent)
631g 215g

Any Size M or S available?

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Any Size M or S available?

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Nope, that's why it's clearance price.. which means it likely will not be restocked in those sizes..

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Tama, these are past seasons products and they do not usually get more stock. One other place you could look is www.geartrade.com where BC sells their returned merchandise.

2 5

were is the DOWN ?????

THIS PARKA COULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS FULLY LOFTED. not Everest or arctic ready no way . I tried a XL along with the
rest of them. the specs are wrong !!!!!! all the major brands need more down call it a overfill or a shortage .
don't freeze, to death, be careful , the garment should be firm everywhere so strong wind won,t flatten any area.
marmot knows better. I could write a short book on down jackets and sleeping bags,

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MY PERSPECTIVE:
YOU WILL NEVER GO WRONG IF YOU BUY THE MOUNTAIN HARDWEAR ABSOLUTE ZERO DOWN PARKA! IT HAS OVER 20 OUNCES OF DOWN, WITH EVEN BAFFLED CONSTRUCTION AND WILL KEEP YOU WARM IN THE WORLD'S WORST, COLDEST AND MOST WICKED WEATHER!!!

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Captain Caps you are insane and I would never read such a book. This jacket is tight and flawless and performs perfectly. It's all my outfit uses and recommends to our clients. Did you wear the plastic bag it came in by accident? ;)

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I disagree. The Marmot 8000m is more puffy than the Absolute Zero Parka. I have seen both, bought the Marmot finally.

My son is 5' 10 1/2 and weighs 170 pounds...

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My son is 5' 10 1/2 and weighs 170 pounds and fit. What size should I buy?

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This is right between sizes. I think I would start with a Large.

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I'm 6'0" and 150 lbs. I am happy with large ... leaves a bit of room if you want to layer underneath (rarely need to though).

Hi, I have a 8000m parka and I found a...

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Hi, I have a 8000m parka and I found a hole (about an inch long) in the shoulder area (between the shoulder and the neck). Does anyone know which would be the best way to fix it? Thanks

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You should probably just talk to someone at marmot. They have a lifetime warranty so they should be able to fix it for you.

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Thanks James, I'll try hat, I appreciate it.

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if not, maybe some iron-on seam tape (find it in the tent repair section) or some very strong fabric glue.

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Surprisingly, I found that a ripstop nylon tape repair kit works great. I used an REI kit on my down jacket and it's holding up great, even through a machine wash and tumble dry.

However, matching the color is pretty much out the window.

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Definitely send it to Marmot. I have sent in this jacket as well as my Bib pants and they fixed it for free.

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