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Is there anywhere too cold for the Marmot 8000M Parka? Not on this planet.
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Toasty at -40F
Chris Latta Expeditions
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- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Took the Parka and Pants on my Arctic Ocean Expedition this past February they performed amazingly! Between the overstuffed parka monster hood and easy full zip pants this unit is solid for any extreme cold situation! The Full zips made it a snap to pull on an extra layer while resting without popping off my skis or snow snows. and the oversized jacket fits over every other layer i have making it the ultimate over suit!
Why not just go 900 fill? I mean you're...
the outdoors are fun and stuff
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Why not just go 900 fill? I mean you're making a $600 jacket you call "8000M". Just use the extra 100 fill for god's sake!
Arthur Debowski
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My guess would be that there were design and pricing desicions that were made that did not make 900 fill down the right choice here. 900 fill down is not all that readily available and it is exponentially expensive. The main benefit of using 900 would likely be a little bit more compressability which is more of a concern on fast and light ascents and in trimmer pieces. In a high altitude parka, you are already bringing the kitchen sink so a little less compressibility for a decent price reduction was likely what they envisioned their target user wanted. If you want a 1000 fill down parka I would take a look at the Patagonia Encapsil, if you can find one ;-)
Pat Palmer
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I just wanted to add some info for the original poster.
The number before -fill refers to the fineness (think particle size) of the down, not the weight of the down that particular item has in it.
The higher the number, the finer the down. Like Arthur said, it packs smaller and it insulates better because the finer down makes for more surface area and dead spaces.
the outdoors are fun and stuff
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Here are the issues I have with Arthur's answer:
-Benefit would not just be better compression, but better loft, therefore more warmth for equal weight (higher fill = better insulation for less weight). This is useful in all cases.
-900 fill is more expensive, but not exponentially. I have a 900 fill sleeping bag for example, that has 14-15oz of down - the bag cost just over $400. If you are going to spend $600 on a jacket and go risk your life in a remote area potentially above 8000m, you might as well spend slightly more and get the max warmth/weight possible.
-Patagonia Encapsil has a high fill #, but not an especially generous amount of that down (the entire jacket weights I think 16-18oz). I know they are already working on a 1200 fill version, glad to see the advances in technology.
Anybody know, if it comes with a stuff...
joep366849
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Anybody know, if it comes with a stuff sack, and what dimension does it compress to? Can't seem to find that info online..
Josh Chapman
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Hey Joe,
Yes, this comes with a stuff and storage sack. Also, no exact dimensions when compressed, but it is probably about the size of a football.
Hottest gear ever
jre5637998
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- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Simply put: You could be naked in this at forty below and be comfy.
This jacket is the definition of warm. I am riding my bike to go to work in the YT, no matter the temperature. -45 in this jacket is a breeze. Too hot. Sweating.
I usually don't take time to write a review...but this one deserve it. I have seen some people with MH jacket Absolute Zero, they are not as puffy as the Marmot 8000m.
This jacket, combined with a good layering, is ready for -70�.
Hi All,
I'm looking at the North Face...
thep251180
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Hi All,
I'm looking at the North Face Himalayan suit, the Marmot 8000m and the Mountain Hardwear Absolute Zero suits.
My main question is, are these suits actually designed as outer wear or are they designed to be worn with a windproof and waterproof shell over the top, particularly if conditions turn nasty?
peip323429
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Windproof yes. Not sure you would encounter liquid water at the temperature those suits are going to be in.
jre5637998
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They are made to be outer wear. They are so puffy that you can't put anything over else. You won't even climb Denali with it during the day, too hot. When the wind goes up and the sun goes down, you put this thing over all your layer. It is a shelter.
I am 5'8" tall and 160lb. Mychest size is...
Henry Lee
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I am 5'8" tall and 160lb. Mychest size is 39.5". Which size is best for me? For temperature at 10F is 8000M the best product. Or I should Marmot Greenland ? Are both waterproof?
jre5637998
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This one will be too hot for 10F. Go with the Greenland.
Do you ship your selling items to Taiwan?...
Henry Lee
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Do you ship your selling items to Taiwan? I am interested in buying things from you. Do you accept credit cards ( visa/mater card) issued overseas? Henry Lee
Steven Jones
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Hey Henry, you probably already have an answer to your question, but for future reference BC's International shipping policy is in the FAQ at the bottom of the page. Best of luck!
Winter in Alaska
benstill870094
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Skied in and tried to climb Mount Drum two winters ago with this jacket. Ambient temperatures down to -45F. Awesome jacket! Wore this every morning and evening while cooking and put it over my feet for extra warmth at night.
Toasty hot
Rem4531123
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I took this jacket up Aconcagua and I couldn't believe how warm it was. After all my conventional layer wouldn't cut it in the cold weather this guy made it all go away. I found it to be too cold once I really started getting active.
denali summit
scottschmi2091173
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So, I've been trying to decide between a...
stocktonjc1110464
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So, I've been trying to decide between a few options for a down parka/jacket and discovered it's rather difficult to track down the down fill weights.
After finally getting them, I thought I'd post them for easier comparison by others.
product (sz. L) weight (oz.) fill weight (oz.)
MHW A0 45 20.9
Marmot 8000m 40 19.17
EB peak XV 34.6 13.6
Marmot greenland 31 10.5
From EB customer service on fill weights for the peak XV jacket
S M L XL XXL
FILL WEIGHT (OZ) 12.08 12.76 13.6 14.5 15.31
MHW A0 (source: other commenters)
Marmot 8000m (source: other commenters)
EB peak XV (source: EB rep)
marmot grnlnd (source: backcountry rep)
Enjoy.
Ryan Hamilton
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Thanks, very helpful.
qua4310248
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Yes very helpful. Although I own the Peak XV and feel it is worth pointing out the fill power is 850 and not 800 as with the others (true of both the 2010 and 2011 versions).
stocktonjc1110464
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Good point on the 850 vs. 800 fill power.
A rough, first-order, conversion between the two is possible, assuming full loft, etc., by simply multiplying the weight of 850 fill-power down by 1.0625 to arrive at an 'equivalent' weight of 800 fill-power. (850/800=1.0625).
Thus, the 13.6 oz of 850 down in the EB is 'equivalent' to about 14.5 oz of 800 fill-power down.
Also, I got some info on the new Mountain Hardwear Nilas Jacket (850 fill-power):
weight fill weight
22.25oz 7.6 oz (~8.1oz 800 fill-power equivalent)
631g 215g
Any Size M or S available?
Tama
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Any Size M or S available?
Sam Matthews
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Nope, that's why it's clearance price.. which means it likely will not be restocked in those sizes..
Gone Fishing
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Tama, these are past seasons products and they do not usually get more stock. One other place you could look is www.geartrade.com where BC sells their returned merchandise.
were is the DOWN ?????
RICHARD ,NM
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THIS PARKA COULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS FULLY LOFTED. not Everest or arctic ready no way . I tried a XL along with the
rest of them. the specs are wrong !!!!!! all the major brands need more down call it a overfill or a shortage .
don't freeze, to death, be careful , the garment should be firm everywhere so strong wind won,t flatten any area.
marmot knows better. I could write a short book on down jackets and sleeping bags,
JEFFREY JAY LEVIN
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MY PERSPECTIVE:
YOU WILL NEVER GO WRONG IF YOU BUY THE MOUNTAIN HARDWEAR ABSOLUTE ZERO DOWN PARKA! IT HAS OVER 20 OUNCES OF DOWN, WITH EVEN BAFFLED CONSTRUCTION AND WILL KEEP YOU WARM IN THE WORLD'S WORST, COLDEST AND MOST WICKED WEATHER!!!
David
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Captain Caps you are insane and I would never read such a book. This jacket is tight and flawless and performs perfectly. It's all my outfit uses and recommends to our clients. Did you wear the plastic bag it came in by accident? ;)
jre5637998
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I disagree. The Marmot 8000m is more puffy than the Absolute Zero Parka. I have seen both, bought the Marmot finally.
My son is 5' 10 1/2 and weighs 170 pounds...
jan3922866
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My son is 5' 10 1/2 and weighs 170 pounds and fit. What size should I buy?
Gone Fishing
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This is right between sizes. I think I would start with a Large.
scottschmi2091173
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I'm 6'0" and 150 lbs. I am happy with large ... leaves a bit of room if you want to layer underneath (rarely need to though).
Hi, I have a 8000m parka and I found a...
haritz
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Hi, I have a 8000m parka and I found a hole (about an inch long) in the shoulder area (between the shoulder and the neck). Does anyone know which would be the best way to fix it? Thanks
James Molnar
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You should probably just talk to someone at marmot. They have a lifetime warranty so they should be able to fix it for you.
haritz
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Thanks James, I'll try hat, I appreciate it.
Blaine Shillington
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if not, maybe some iron-on seam tape (find it in the tent repair section) or some very strong fabric glue.
Fernando Octavio Brendinberger
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Surprisingly, I found that a ripstop nylon tape repair kit works great. I used an REI kit on my down jacket and it's holding up great, even through a machine wash and tumble dry.
However, matching the color is pretty much out the window.
Multiple reviewers have noted that Mountain...
Jesse Lind
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Multiple reviewers have noted that Mountain Hardware's Absolute Zero parka has issues with loft migrating in the arms. And multiple reviewers have note that The North Face's Himalayan Parka has zipper issues. Are there any notable issues with this jacket? Migrating down and problematic zippers are not something to be taken lightly at altitude.
Norman Kirk
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All down jackets have down shift from the inside of the arm to the outside unless extremely over stuffed or baffled at this location, This is due to the inside of the arm brushing against the body and arm flex at the elbow joint. Down shift with resulting cold spots is a major drawback in the use of down as an insulation. Requires regular "patting it back" to keep it well distributed.
Does it have pockets for water bottles?...
JJF
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Does it have pockets for water bottles? how many inside pockets? outside pockets?
Fernando Octavio Brendinberger
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There are two hand pockets on the outside.
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Robin
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I bought this Marmot 8000M Parka in 2003 to wear to the Playoffs for the NE Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, MA. The temps were 5 degrees with a wind chill of 17 below. Brrrrrr! I was toasty in my Marmot 8000M. The Mens size small fit me perfectly (womens jackets didn't seem warm enough for the New England weather at night in Gillette). We beat the Titans. We beat the Colts. We beat the Panthers. WE WON THE SUPERBOWL and I beat the weather in my Marmot 8000M!! YEAH!! GO PATS AND MARMOT!!
PS: As a Season Ticket Holder, I go to ALL the home games. And even though my seats are in the sky (where it's very cold, especially at night), I welcome the cold weather 'cos that's when the Pats play best and I know I'll be WARM in my Marmot 8000M! I LOVE this jacket!
By the way, that guru photo is not me.
Is this jacket made in America (Canada,...
geo2781837
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Is this jacket made in America (Canada, US, Mexico...) or is it an import from the the Far East?
hollytheho1661040
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albania
Woooo Soooo Warm!!!!!
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Boguslaw Czerkawski
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Magnificent
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