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Marker Griffon Schizo 12 Ski Binding - 2009 BCS

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Griffon Schizo 12 Ski Binding
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A lighter, lower-din version of the Marker Jester Schizo binding, the Marker Griffon Schizo 12 Ski Binding offers the same bomber performance, minus a few ounces of weight. As with its big brother, the Jester, this binding offers the option to slide your stance forward or backward a few centimeters without even stepping out of the binding. Thus you can ski at your primo potential anywhere on the mountain, whether you’re set back for deep powder turns or set forward for aggressive spins through the park.

  • Compact, fat footprint provides superior lateral control and allows the ski to flex naturally
  • Triple-Pivot toe and Inter-Pivot Heel absorb energy to prevent premature release and offer excellent contact area with boot lugs
  • Wide mounting pattern transfers power to powder skis with a minimum width of 76mm
  • Binding slides forward or backward 3cm from center stance, so you can adjust for powder, all-mountain, or park / pipe turning
  • Turn the screw on the toe piece to slide binding—and you don’t need to step out of it to do so

Bottom Line: The next step in binding technology--in a compact size.

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Since this binding only comes in the 90mm brakes can I take them

Since this binding only comes in the 90mm brakes can I take them to a shop and exchange brakes width because I want to mount them on a pair of Volkl Chopsticks (2011 model) but there is no option for wider brakes?

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March 16, 2011

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Hey Pete,

Yes, we used to carry the wider brakes but have since sold out, the shop should be able to take care of you.

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March 17, 2011

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I was just wondering if the 90 or 110 mm brake would work better

I was just wondering if the 90 or 110 mm brake would work better on the Coreupt TJ Schiller 183 cm length if either would fit at all. Thanks

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February 21, 2011

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Rating for this product: 3

A necessary evil if you want the versatility

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March 7, 2010

So I got the Griffon Schizo to be used on my first twin tip/park skis (2010 Armada Pipe Cleaner) because I simply had no idea where I should mount the bindings. For that purpose alone, this does a great job and overall, I'm satisfied with the purchase. The bindings feel very solid, and I like how the binding clamps on to my boots with authority when I step into it. Edge to edge transition feels just as smooth as my mid 70s waist Volkl Tigershark. However, there are couple of things that did bother me after first day out with the new setup:
1. Adjusting the binding position on the fly isn't quite as glorious as it sounds. Snow/ice get stuck in the screw of the toe piece (which you rotate to slide the binding) making it a pain in the XXX to insert the provided plastic screw driver to make the adjustment.
2. Sliding the binding all the way back essentially exposes 6+ cm worth of white base plate, which isn't aesthetically pleasing. Overall, the presence of all the extra pieces (base plate, steel cable, etc.) takes away that clean look you get from traditional bindings on flat waists of twin tip skis.
3. The Pipe Cleaner I got has a waist of 84mm; however, the brakes end up being too narrow the further I slide the bindings back (which just comes with the territory of having such a binding, so not a negative for the manufacturer...just a caution for the potential buyers).
4. This binding makes me paranoid about making sure both bindings are at the same position.

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December 14, 2010

I'm sorry if you didn't like my review. As individual consumers, we go into a purchase with unique set of expectations, and I try to delineate my assessment of the product based on my individual expectations. There will be few who find my reviews useful, and there may be a lot more who simply think I don't "really skiing."

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November 23, 2010

They are amazing bro. Of course ice and snow are going to get stuck in the screw hole. Your skiing. Looks don't matter because if your really skiing you'll have snow covering your skis. And the bindings don't have to be absolutely perfect. We're talking about centimeters.

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Is this the real look of the bindings? I've found a different

Is this the real look of the bindings? I've found a different look on the Marker website...

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February 14, 2011

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I just picked up a pair and they came in the look that you see on the Marker webssite. They are alternating black and white. You could set them up so that one binding would be all black like this and the other all white. It looks like they just showed a pic of the black toe and heel pieces.

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February 14, 2011

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Is it feasible to use this binding with the 110mm brake on a

Is it feasible to use this binding with the 110mm brake on a ski with a 112mm waist?
many thanks

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January 10, 2011

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Its not impossible, the brake will need to bent a little to fit, any shop that mounts should have no trouble getting the extra 2mm out of the brake.

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January 11, 2011

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Rating for this product: 5

Sick Bindings!!!!!!!

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November 28, 2009

They only make skiing even better than it already is. They are pretty durable. They are a bit heavy but you get used to the weight quickly. great for carving thanks to the fat toe piece (especially with wider skis). they are super versatile and cool looking. I would definitely recommend this binding to anyone who wants to ski everything all over the mountain.

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will these bindings work with an AT boot? or is the hight of

will these bindings work with an AT boot? or is the hight of the toe piece not adjustable like the marker duke/baron?

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January 8, 2011

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just double checking... this will fit the new Rossi S86, rig

just double checking... this will fit the new Rossi S86, right?
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November 27, 2010

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Hey there,

Yeah, the 90mm will be perfect.

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November 29, 2010

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Rating for this product: 4

Great binding

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January 10, 2011

Changing the stance is easy and intuitive, and the 6 cm of play give you a ton of versatility on the mountain. You lose a few style points due to the exposed white plate (especially if you're riding well off boot-center), but overall the Griffon Schizo's look pretty slick and hold a boot very well.

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I purchased a pair of Griffon Schizo bindings for my son's

I purchased a pair of Griffon Schizo bindings for my son's new Line skis. The shop calls today to say that they are the Schizofrantics, and cannot be mounted on anything but K2's with inserts. Yet everything else I have read says that they can be mounted on anything, and my intuitive sense tells me that the ski could be drilled wherever the inserts would be on a K2 and that there should be not problem.

Is the shop wrong, or am I just misinformed/misunderstanding? Please help... I don't particularly want to have to buy another pair of bindings unless I have to! Thanks!

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November 15, 2010

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the shop is clueless... if you can go to another one but yes, they can be mounted on any ski

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November 27, 2010

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Can you swap one pair of schizos back and forth between 2 skis

Can you swap one pair of schizos back and forth between 2 skis like you can with the Tyrolia Railflex system? I'm thinking not since there doesn't appear to be a rail that you can purchase separately like with the railflex?

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February 17, 2010

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No, this is not an option here. Love the bindings though.

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December 9, 2010

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Rating for this product: 4

Very Versatile

By: Backcountry.com Employee
January 29, 2012

These bindings are great if you are trying to set up a quiver of one. Powder day? move the back. Slaying groomers? move them forward.

They have great adjustability and can even be changed around for different BSLs.

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If I already have the original Griffons mounted on my ski, will

If I already have the original Griffons mounted on my ski, will I need to re-drill if I want to change to the Schizo Griffon?

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February 17, 2010

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the marker griffon 90mm brake will work with the line celebrity,

the marker griffon 90mm brake will work with the line celebrity, which has a 90 mm waist?

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February 17, 2010

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Yes. Perfect!

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February 17, 2010

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Rating for this product: 5

These bindings are the bomb

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January 2, 2010

I got the all-white, wide-brake version of the griffon schizos that came with my Kung Fujas'. I'm in love with these bindings. They have great control and make my 179 KFs (95 underfoot, and actually 182 cm long) ski smaller than my 175 PRs (90 underfoot), maybe due to the wide footprint of the heel and toe piece. They are solid, burly and have a satisfying ka-chunk when you step in. They release only when they absolutely have to, and do an especially good job keeping you in on sketchy landings where a quick release would prevent a smooth landing. The stance adjustment is really simple and feels well built-all it takes to go from dead center to 6 cms back is a large phillips head screwdriver and 15 seconds. The mechanism is a pair of strong steel cables and a pair of solid looking worm gears-I don't completely understand the mechanisms of it, but it looks burly. The binding also seems to provide additional stiffness underfoot in a similar way to a race plate. These bindings have a blunt appearance and short stance for a low swing weight, and I've definitely noticed the difference when spinning, smearing turns, and throwing on the brakes in a hurry. These bindings are especially nice in a one-ski quiver, as they allow one ski to perform a few different ways.

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Do the bindings slide on their own at all after "heavy"

Do the bindings slide on their own at all after "heavy" (whatever that may mean for you) use? Like do you find binding on one side in different position from the other binding after a day of tree skiing and/or park/pipes?

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January 26, 2010

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I've mounted these binding on several skis this year and have had not reports of the binding moving when it wasn't supposed to.

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February 5, 2010

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Do these minding have any size adjustment once they are mounted?

Do these minding have any size adjustment once they are mounted? Once they are mounted can they move at all to fit a different size boot?

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January 21, 2010

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Yes. This binding can adjust to different boot sizes. Typically bindings have 10-15 mm of adjustment both ways.

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February 5, 2010

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Rating for this product: 4

Good versatile binding

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December 29, 2010

I mounted these on a par of Armada JJs (115 under foot, the 110 brake was fine) and am very happy with them. The primary reason I bought them was because I was indecisive about where to mount my bindings and wanted the ability to move them around without remounting. Adjusting them on the mountain is really easy just bring a screwdriver or multi-tool (the plastic screwdriver that comes with the binding is useless).

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Are these the same as Marker Griffon SchizoFrantics? And if so

Are these the same as Marker Griffon SchizoFrantics? And if so do they mount on any ski or how do the inserts work?

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December 26, 2009

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Yes it is the same binding, the longer name was the pre-production name for it. Even Marker is just calling it the schizo. This binding will mount to any ski, there are no inserts. It mounts to a ski like any other binding, except it is on a track, so that you can adjust where you want it mounted on the ski (similar to a rental binding), but more solid. It allows for 6cm total movement along the track, up to 3cm forward, and up to 3 cm back for a more centered mount or more traditional mount.

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December 27, 2009

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I have some marker m-900 and wanted to know how the holes would

I have some marker m-900 and wanted to know how the holes would line up with the schizo? Right now they are mounted to fit a sole lenght of 266.

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November 30, 2009

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This bindings is a brand new binding for this year, and has a completely different mounting pattern than other marker bindings and requires a special jig to mount this binding. The holes will not match up. You will have to have them filled and get the ski remounted.

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December 27, 2009

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They won't match up. Take them to a shop that can fill the old holes and has a jog to mount the Griffons.

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November 30, 2009

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Can I throw a 120 mm brake on these, or can I order them with

Can I throw a 120 mm brake on these, or can I order them with it?

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November 16, 2009

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Looks like right now you can only order them with a 90mm break. You can definitely get a wider break from Marker and throw that on though, it's a really easy swap.

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November 16, 2009

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Can I throw a 120 mm brake on these, or can I order them with

Can I throw a 120 mm brake on these, or can I order them with it?

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November 16, 2009

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you can buy 110mm or 130mm brakes but they are around $50. In the past marker has sold bindings with the larger brakes already on the bindings...but I dont know if they do that with this years models.

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November 18, 2009

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how is the fit of the binding? when i was much younger i had

how is the fit of the binding? when i was much younger i had the basic marker bindings (not from the royal family) and the feel of the binding was horrible--you could tell they were bad quality. then i switched to some salomon bindings and really enjoyed how the boot snapped in and the feel of the binding was really nice. Im planning on buying these but i dont want them to feel like my old marker bindings. I think these will be better because many of the pros use marker royal family bindings but im still not sure, can someone help me?

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October 26, 2009

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I have a pair of griffons on my armada t-halls and they are rock solid bindings. If you want it to snap when you get into your bindings...you will get this. They are super bindings in my opinion. I used to have some marker free 11s(i think that is what they were called). and they were like how you described your old bindings. The griffons are nothing like that.

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October 27, 2009

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I have the Jester's (non-Schizo) and I love them. They are solid as a rock. I know the Jester's have more metal and less plastic, so I can not speak directly to the 12's, but unless you are hucking 40-70' drops, these should work fine.

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October 27, 2009

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how is the fit of the binding? when i was much younger i had

how is the fit of the binding? when i was much younger i had the basic marker bindings (not from the royal family) and the feel of the binding was horrible--you could tell they were bad quality. then i switched to some salomon bindings and really enjoyed how the boot snapped in and the feel of the binding was really nice. Im planning on buying these but i dont want them to feel like my old marker bindings. I think these will be better because many of the pros use marker royal family bindings but im still not sure, can someone help me?

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October 26, 2009

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A necessary evil if you want the versatility

3 star rating

By: Yung Lee March 7, 2010

So I got the Griffon Schizo to be used on my first twin tip/park skis (2010 Armada Pipe Cleaner) because I simply had no idea where I should mount the more...

Sick Bindings!!!!!!!

5 star rating

By: Emil Martayan November 28, 2009

They only make skiing even better than it already is. They are pretty durable. They are a bit heavy but you get used to the weight quickly. great for carving more...

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DIN Range:
4 - 12 
Brake Width:
90mm or 110mm available 
Gliding AFD:
Stainless steel 
Weight:
4lb 12oz (2150g) 
Recommended Use:
Expert freeskiing, powder skiing, park and pipe 
Manufacturer Warranty:
1 Year