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Firmly established as the burliest choice in touring-compatible freeride bindings, the Marker Duke Ski Binding rocks a cliff-stomping 16-DIN design and a rock-solid uphill hiking mode. Metal and magnesium components give this binder a backbone that's constructed for security and durability in the face of conditions that would make other binders come apart at the screws. Just one step into the Triple Pivot heel and toe system and you'll understand why this versatile binding has become a staple of every hard charger both in or outside the gates.
Low, level stand height keeps you close to your ski and shorter frame length means your ski can flex more naturally
Binding-to-ski interface extends 10mm wider than traditional bindings for more responsive and direct power transmission
Uphill hiking mode / touring lever lies underfoot, between the toe and heel, so your binding can't switch between modes unless your foot is out of the binding
Triple Pivot Elite toe and heel system absorbs shocks and vibration to eliminate injury-causing premature ejection
Redesigned three-position climbing wire allows you to elevate your heel to seven- and 13-degrees to reduce fatigue while touring
Freeride brake platform allows you to use multiple widths of brakes to fit over fat skis
Bottom Line: Skin to the summit with ease and stay connected to your gear as you drop heavy lines on the way back to the car.
Not sure if I am going to move to a at soled boot or stick with a side country option like BD factors. I am wondering if the Dukes or FT 12's can take a AT sole and still release correctly like a DIN plate set up? I notice that the new tyrolia Adrenilans coming out 2013 have got a height adjustment to get around this problem.
So I have been on the Dukes for the past 2 seasons. Although the binding has ease of use for touring, personally I have found that it doesnt make up for all the issues I have had with the binding. For one, the binding stiffens the flex of the ski which isn't what I am looking for in a binding, I want the ski to be able to flex just as it was designed. My other issue I have had with the Duke is the afd plate. Or the toe plate. I have broken so many of those, to the point I went back to BCA Trekkers. I would rather deal with the few frustrations of the trekker, and be able to ski a real binding. I am in the minority I am sure, but def had my fair share of issues with this binding.
Thanks for your question. When it comes to the stand height, it does come out slightly taller than most bindings nowadays. When applied to skiing technique, you would have to add less angulation in the ankle and knee to get the edge to bite and the edge grip will be stronger, but the feedback would increase as well in uneven snow.
Also, the natural flex is definitely stiffer than normal and can add a more than slight dead spot to more than some setups. This sort of thing is definitely more suited to a powerful skiing technique. I hope this answer helps you out.
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I think the Duke is the all round best option for touring. If Im just going out to tour around, I would choose Dynafit, but for getting into the backcountry for charging lines and hucking, this is the best binding. Doesnt break too easy, does the job well!
I have had pair of a few years (3) and I am having some problems with the toe piece. the little slider is coming off the rail. I would keep using your treckers until we can see the new salomon touring bindings in the fall.
They work, as long as your not trying to rely on them too much. Ski well in bounds, definately stiffen the ski underfoot, which isn't that notecable in untouched pow, but can be rough inside ski area boundary. BROKE 3 PAIR IN ONE SEASON. Do NOT use for any freestyle endeavors. They need to be adjusted often and are hard on ski boots. It's a slack country binding for people who want to ski hard, but not too hard, long tours are fine in them, just hard on the bindings. we just need a company to improve the a/t optional binding quality.
Do the Marker Dukes/Barons/F12 bindings have the same hole pattern as the Jesters? Have Jesters on a pair of skis (that have enough holes in them already) that I'd like to throw Dukes, Barons or F12's on and use the same holes.
They work, as long as your not trying to rely on them too much. Ski well in bounds, definately stiffen the ski underfoot, which isn't that notecable in untouched pow, but can be rough inside ski area boundary. BROKE 3 PAIR IN ONE SEASON. Do NOT use for any freestyle endeavors. They need to be adjusted often and are hard on ski boots. It's a slack country binding for people who want to ski hard, but not too hard, long tours are fine in them, just hard on the bindings. we just need a company to improve the a/t optional binding quality.
I've seen the reviews that these are not good for multiple day trips. I'm doing the 7-day Haute route next spring and was thinking of getting the Dukes and putting them on a pair of Kastle MX or FX skis. Any thoughts?
I would agree with the answer above. I have tried to do a multiple day trip on this binding and my skis/bindings were just so heavy it did not work. I ended up getting a lot of muscle pain in my legs even. For longer treks, get a lighter binding. This binding works great if you want to use it once and a while on the mountain. Not for a full trip.
The main reason people don't like them for long trips is because they're heavy. The Dukes are more of a resort binding that can do sidecountry if necessary. Consider a Tech binding like Dynafit.
They work well. They aren't light, they stiffen the flex of the ski. But for downhill performance with the ability to do some slackcountry - you can't go wrong. Maybe with this years offerings of Gaurdaian/etc there will be more options.
I developed some slop in my dukes with about 50days on them. But this did not make skiing any different.
Broke on my second run at Silverton, putting a damper on an awesome day. Only skied 5 days on these bindings before they broke. The heel piece needs to be made out of metal where it comes into contact with the boot. I would suggest taking a good look at the new AT bindings coming out next season before settling for these.
I mounted Super 7's with the 110mm brakes. They work fine.
There is a little bit of catch from the plastic on the brake to the metal of edge the ski, but I did Not bend my brakes at all. If you were to bind the brakes a little bit they will work even better.
I had the Super S7's with the 110 brakes, and while bending the brakes made it doable, I would have opted for the 130mm brakes if they weren't so expensive (or I wasn't so cheap).
JulianC, I have been using the Marker Dukes on the Rossi Super S7's for the last 3 seasons. I have the 195's with 117mm. I mounted these myself and needed to use the 130mm wide brakes. The 110mm brake would not fit.
The best out there so far. Obviously not your choice for a long day of touring, but for resort slackcountry domination they rule. You will have to try hard to pre release from these.
The weight is a minor flaw, but you get a 16 DIN binding. Also, the stand height is different, but you get used to it. It actually makes it easy to transfer power to your edges.
If you want to do longer AT tours, there are better options, but if you are like myself & mainly do slackcountry (I ski Jackson Hole, so I have A LOT of slackcountry options), hiking, short to medium skinning skinning, you are fine. I pretty much only ski on FKS 185/P 18 ski bindings on my skis, & want something that is bomber & tough. When I got these bindings, I wanted something close to the durability I have on the in-bounds/slackcountry set-up.
The Duke has set the bar for people like myself who want a binding that is dependable and won't break after too much in-bounds at the resort (i.e. Fritschi Diamir Freeride Pro) after a couple seasons, I know 2-3 people that have into that problem. This is made for people who want ski 60-75% in-bounds & 40-25% outta-bounds. I believe in the 2012-13 ski season, Atomic & Salomon will have AT bindings on the market, tho my knowledge they are still in the test/R&D phase. Marker raised the bar in the last few years, competition will only make them all better & we will benefit.
Andrew, the S7 is a fairly softer ski with which the Dukes could change the flex of the ski. Other than that I have them on my EHP's and they perform downhill as well as any other bindings I've tried. For touring, the weight hasn't been noticeable for me for day tours or slack country around the resort. Most dependable touring binding in my opinion.
So what do you think of these on an S7 that I have laying around? And why don't you think that they are good for full day tours? Suggestions for a burly full day tourer?
I have been skiing in regular alpine bindings for almost 20 years, but I would like to start alpine touring (nothing serious, no multi-day treks just yet). Im 5 10 and 175 lbs., I ski fast and somewhat aggressive (10+ DIN), and I prefer steeper slopes. Is there an AT binding that can offer me the durability, dependability, and safety that I have grown accustomed to through my alpine bindings? Is this the best binding for my purposes, or is there something else out there that would suit me better? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
The duke binding is very aggressive even though it has a touring feature. This binding would be perfect if you would like the option to use an alpine binding or a touring binding. I believe this binding would suit your purpose.
this is one of the best ones out there but still won't feel as secure and sturdy as your traditional alpine bindings.. basically you can't have best of both... although the new Salomon Guardian 16 that was just launched last week promises downhill dependability with touring functions..
I got these about a month ago and haven't had the chance to take them on any tours so I can only speak about their performance as a downhill binding, not a touring setup. I have mine mounted on Fat-ypus d-sender ER 184's. I'm 5'8 155, don't know if that matters but I figured I'd throw it in so you guys could get a good comparison. Anyway, these bindings have been nothing but rock solid for the few days I've had them for on piste performance. They feel way more solid than my old Rossi Axial 12's (obviously). I took this beefy setup through the park just to straight air some jumps and I did not feel at all like I was on AT bindings. There have been concerns about these creating a dead spot in the middle of the skis because of the touring mechanism. I haven't had any other bindings on the d-senders so I don't know what they feel like without Dukes. The d-senders are supposed to be a beefy, ripping ski with a playful side and the Duke's haven't changed that. Overall, the Duke's have been better on Piste than my old Axials and after doing some slackcountry with alpine trekkers earlier this winter I can't wait to utilize the touring mode on the Dukes.
Looking at mounting these on a pair of DPS WAILER 112RP ( PURE ) has anyone skied on this set up? & is there any noticeable difference in the flex of the ski ? any feedbak would be appreciated thanks
I have exactly this setup and it works just fine. The Duke plate doesn't stiffen the ski anymore than your boot does. The Pure still feels light and lively, even with the weight of Dukes. I am three season in with this setup, and have had no issues. That said, keep a close eye on your AFDs and adjust as needed. Those with AFD troubles probably need to adjust them more carefully.
Gday. Bought some Dukes 2 weeks ago with the intention of have a killer binding for touring and resort action. All reports state a burley binding for all riding styles. Been riding them hard, no park, no touring, no impact, just fast fun on Colorado hard pack. 8 days of groomers and they broke. I found the stress cracks before they ejected me at 60mph thank Ullr. I am 6'2 and 204lbs. Lucky I didn't go for a lighter version!! Marker need to step it up a notch to make this binding bomber. They need carbon or titanium in the struts that connect the toe and heel to strengthen them to deal with any torsional action. This is where they failed. Backcountry organised the replacement immediately without any fuss with overnight delivery. Rock on Backcountry. Great service. Although they have been replaced I have lost faith in the product and Markers claims.
Hey, So i'm about to buy a pair of Armada JJ 185, with a waist of 115 cm. I.m planning to use them as a mostly off pist/back country ski, but also in the pist. Would these bindings fit that ski good and what size should i take? Thanks!
This would be a great binding for that ski since it is designed for a wide ski.They will ski well, but be heavier than other touring options and require you to take your ski off to de skin. Size is determined by your boot sole length (stamped on the side of your ski boot sole) match it up and go.
Both will work great for your size. The difference is what you want to get out of the two. The Baron is lighter for going up, the Duke is burlier (and has a higher DIN 16 vs 13) for coming down.
I have loved the Dukes so far. I haven't done a ton of touring yet but as a downhill binding I don't feel any compromise with this binding. Solid as a rock! Thank you BC.com
looking at mounting a pair of these on a pair of DPS Wailer 112RP`S ( pure ) has any one out there skied on this rig ? ... any feedback would be appreciated
This is a great binding when you consider the limits of it's uses. It is NOT for monster tours, but will serve you well on shorter skins, and there is no performance sacrifice on the descent - in bounds or out. A little less convenient than say a Dynafit where you can de skin without taking the ski off. The Duke needs to come off for the lock down. Some folks complain of breakage issues, but I am year 4 on mine, with a lot of use - no issues.
Yes you can. However, if you are going to be doing a lot of touring on this binding you will probably want to invest in a touring boot. It will make going up hill a lot easier and nicer on your body.
Not ideal for long or multi-day tours; however, its ideal for those slack-country runs or in-bound tour....you know, the kind of runs that have huge 30+ Foot Drops or Waist Deep Power! Preferably both!! That is were the Marker Duke THRIVES, I wouldn't trust aaanny other touring bindings to get me in, and more importantly OUT, of the kind of runs I look for on a typical day. I even take the bloody thing into the park!
Anyone know if I could put these on my AK JJ's? With the 110mm brake being the largest, Im not sure if anyone has any experience mounting these on a wider ski. Are these bindings to terribly hard to modify for a ski with a 120mm waist like the JJ?
I have these mounted on a pair of my custom made Kitten Factory skies and they are awesome I have never had a problem with these pre-releasing while im riding. They are super easy to tour with as well. Just flip the switch and they are ready to go tour. If your looking for a good all around touring and regular binding I would highly recommend the Duke
You can definitely fit either size. There is no appreciable performance difference (the small may weigh a bit less). You may want to think about who you may let borrow your rig or which may be better for re-sell down the road.
I knew going into it that 140mm skins, dukes, and bentchetlers wasn't going to be heavy, but my main reason for touring is to find some cliffs / build so jumps that are out there away from the crowds. Damn, they are heavy. By the time i get to the top of a long tour i can't even feel my hipflexors and my legs refuse to move. But... they get me up better than Trekkers, affect flex less than MFDs, and i am confident hitting jumps and cliffs unlike Fritschi's
Small. You will have a lot of track hanging off the back with the L. 27.5 falls right in between large and small, so you might as well go for the small and save a hair of weight and the silly look that the extra track hanging off the will have if you go large.
On a powered ski it feels the same like any binding. If you are going to be working on butters, etc. you might notice a little difference under foot, but not much. The ski will have more influence on that than the binding.
It depends on how stiff your skis are to begin with. I have them on my Line Influence 115s, and have not noticed any change in the stiffness underfoot. However, with a softer, more playful ski it could be noticeable.
So I have been on the Dukes for the past 2 seasons. Although the binding has ease of use for touring, personally I have found that it doesnt make up for more...
I think the Duke is the all round best option for touring. If Im just going out to tour around, I would choose Dynafit, but for getting into the backcountry more...