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Beginner skiers, look elsewhere. The Look PX 18 FS XXL Alpine Ski Binding is not for the faint of heart. This binding's DIN starts at 8 and goes up to 18 for people who push their skis hard and can't afford to have them pre-release. The Look alpine bindings’ short mounting zone provides strong lateral support and allows the ski to follow more of its natural flex. The PX 18's heelpiece packs a huge range of elastic travel with automatic re-centering. This gives you more time to recover before the binding releases and makes it easier to get clipped back into the binding in deep powder and steep slopes.
Bottom Line: Bombproof bindings for insane skiers.
What is the low end of the DIN range on these? Specs say 10-18, descriptive text says it starts at 8. I need a 9 setting, so the difference is material!
Minimum DIN is 10. The description says 8, but it is wrong. I'm in the same boat, but already bought them. I may just hold on them and set 'em at 10 - I ended last season at A-Basin with a super annoying pre-release in powder off a cornice. Nothing like digging for skis in powder on a steep face!
They hold you in, they release when they need to, but jesus are they heavy, and the large mounting footprint on the back messes with flex a bit (not really to noticeable). Spend $100 more and get the FKS/Pivot.
Does this binding come with a lifter plate? Can you put one under? I'm an East Coast racer used to race/carving skis with big lifter plates and I just got my first West Coast skis (Rossi SC97s) and am looking for a binding to hold me in.
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These bindings are GRRREAT!!! No plastic junk here. I have several different Look bindings on different skis and these are by far the top of the line as far as quality, durability and holdfastness. If you go to any Big Mtn / Freeski comp you'll see this binding on easily 90% of the Pros. One word of caution, this is a heavy set-up, you are NOT comming out of. This is for all you skiing Buddhist, you will be one with the skis. Dial'em way back to start and let'er rip.
I've been using Look bindings for years and love them. I have the PX 18's mounted on some Bluehouse Districts. Two weeks ago at Snowbird I took the worst crash I've had in a long time and my skis stayed on after tumbling and sliding down the mountain for several hundred yards. And the DIN was only at 12 and I'm 215lbs.
This binding and the Rossignol Freeski2 180 are basically the same, so sorry if my review is very similar for this binding:
This binding features the same toe piece as the Look/Rossignol Pivot/FKS 18 binding. It has a really wide AFD, which allows you to really transfer torsional power into the ski. The heel piece is not as small and low profile as the Pivot/FKS binding, nor does it feature the pivoting heel, but it does still have a very high elasticity, which means it allows you some time to recover before it absolutely releases. This might be bad if you fall alot and like your skis to come off, but if you charge hard you know that the last thing you want is your skis to pre-release. That is why this binding is awesome! Of course the thicker heel causes you to loose some feel of the ski, but it isn't THAT noticeable. This heel piece will give you a larger range of adjustability than the Pivot/FKS would as well. If you need an 18 DIN binding for cheaper than the Pivot/FKS, this is your best option!
A note about the 110mm brake...even if your ski is fatter than 110mm underfoot, your shop can bend the brake to fit your ski.
I just picked up a pair of Movement's Baggy Skis, 102mm underfoot, and trying to find the right binding. I blewout my last pair of Look Pivot 120 bindings off of a pair of Line skis. Trying to decide what binding to throw on these new sticks of mine. Debating on the PX 18 FS XXL with the brakes that would easily fit those skis, the PX 15 FS WB with 100mm brakes, or the Rossi SAS2 Ti 140 Wide also with 100mm brakes. Any thoughts on which would work best? Not really keen on bending the brakes but have done it before and it works.
It's the binding that they sell in a combo package with the ski, and if you like the pow, then it would be a pretty sick set-up with some monster hold.
The fit would be pretty tight, I know that my PX 15 with a 105 brake barely fits my 105 ObSETHed skis, but you can always bend the brakes outward to accommodate the extra 3 mm. Keep in mind, bending brakes usually voids warranty. Hope that helped.
Yo in order to turn the heel screw, the binding has to be in the boot-in position. You'll strip the screws if the heelpiece is down. An old repair shop tip.
They hold you in, they release when they need to, but jesus are they heavy, and the large mounting footprint on the back messes with flex a bit (not really more...