Description
Proof that bacon is tasty on just about anything.
At the meat of the Line Sir Francis Bacon Ski, there's a little fat and a buttery smearability that's not too soft or slippery. Yup, this Bacon was cooked with the perfect amount of handling crisp. This ski floats like a falcon on a summer breeze, encourages you to capitalize on the playfulness of almost any terrain, and leaves you craving its delicious sensations after every run. Best of all, you can enjoy your Bacon forward or backward because there's enough early rise to keep your tip or tail on top of choppy leftovers or powdery freshness. Sounds mouth watering, doesn't it?
- Early-rise camber profile (66/66mm rise, tip/tail) allows the tip and tail to float above powder, helps you surf over choppy conditions, and makes hooking a tip in deep snow a thing of the past
- Traditional camber underfoot gives you steady edge control and the ability to carve deep turns instead of sliding
- Maple Macro Block core uses two full-length maple stringers surrounded by aspen
- This construction balances the power and stability of maple with the durability and reduced weight of aspen
- Symmetrical flex offers the same flex pattern front to back so you can expect the same feeling from your ski whether you're riding switch or forward
- Fatty Base and Edge means a thicker base and edge, which increases ski durability and tuning lifespan
- Sidewall construction uses P-Tex plastic walls that sit over the edges and beneath the top sheet in order to absorb vibration and ensure solid edge hold
- Thin Tip reduces the weight at the ski tip by using a super thin core and sidewall, ultimately reducing weight by 100 grams per per pair of skis
- Thin Tip reduces swing weight to make turning and air balance easier, and the reduced weight also helps to eliminate tip bounce in choppy conditions
- 108mm waist floats through deep snow and provides a stable platform for landing punty airs, all without feeling so wide that it affects your ability to make quick edge changes
- 5 Cut Sidecut shape blends five different sizes of sidecut radius into a single shape for ultimate turn shape versatility
- Actual base colors do vary; we cannot assure you will get a certain color
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Pogiak05
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I'm thinking about getting these skis, I'm about 5'8'' 155. I would say I'm an intermediate skier, what length would work best for my height/weight? I understand it all depends per person and the style of skiing, but as a general starting point, what would work out the best? Thanks in advance!
Wally Phillips
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Hey Pogiak05,
Thanks for the question. The 178cm sound pretty much up your alley as the rocker shape with the Sir Francis Bacon's will keep the ski feeling a little shorter. This accompanied with the float you'll get from the rocker design will pretty much get you through any skiing conditions pretty easily.
Toast n Bacon
telebananas
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- Gender: Female
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
A toast to Sir Francis Bacon. I bought these mostly as a Colorado backcountry ski and had no idea what to expect since there is no opportunity to demo most skis on tele, but I went out on a limb and bought them knowing that I love my Prophet 100s. This is also my first rocker experience, so that added to the depths of the unknown. I waffled on the length. My P100s are 165s and I am a lightweight 5,6" female but am on a backcountry ski patrol and must carry a heavy pack in the backcountry. After talking with Line & other reps with recommendations all over the board from 165 Bacon Shorties to 178s I went with the 172s. I debated the mount placement too. But the Line folks said on boot center even for tele, so I went tele boot center on the mark. Mounted with BD 01s and baby, they are gorgeous! Not only do they look good, but oh do they ski beautifully! Granted, I have not taken the Bacons to an area yet but in the backcountry they are extremely lively, playful, buttery and I feel like a kid on the best playground ever! Recently we got a 2' dump and even though the Bacons are not considered a "pure" powder ski, they did just as well or better than the fattiest of fat & rockered skis of my buddies and I am glad I went with the 172s as the extra length helps keep me afloat & smiling in the bc. The center mount feels balanced. My only complaint is that Mr. Bacon is a little porky, aka heavy compared to some skis of similar size for a backcountry ski (the only reason for 4 out of 5 stars, actually I'd go 4.5 stars if I could) but they make up for the extra weight with pure enjoyment on the way down.
Just buy them...
timothy Alexander
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- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
One of the best all around skis I have ever used and is 100% my go to for all conditions. I am an American living in Europe and the snow in the Alps is unlike anything out west. It can be wet and heavy at times or dry and powdery. You cannot really predict what you'll get. However, this ski does it all - blows thru crud, floats in the pow, handles groomed surfaces well, turns quickly and is decent in bumps (all but the bullet proof variety). They do vibrate a bit at higher speeds but no ski with these characteristics is 100% stable at all times. They are not as soft as they look - but if you want stiff then stick with Volkyl - and they are forgiving. I've skied the old Prophet 115s and these are clearly superior as a 1 quiver ski.
Awesome playful ski
Bridger
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- Gender: Male
I picked this ski up about 2 months ago now under the impression that I would be using it primarily for screwing around in the park and for light pow days. I didn't really think I would want to be using it as an everyday ski as it would be far too soft. However, I took them down to Targhee for a few days and I was definitely surprised by their performance.Even through there hadn't been new snow in a few weeks and pretty much everything was hard and mogully, they managed to hold their own. I have since used them in pretty much all the conditions we receive in MT excluding spring slush and I can safely say this is a great option for those looking for a true one ski quiver. It can handle pretty much anything you throw at it. Butters are extremely easy on these and they feel really light in the air. The soft flex can have it's drawbacks (especially on big airs) but I've learned to adjust my landings to their sweet spot. The do tend to chatter a bit when you start to get to higher speeds on groomed or hard snow but it's definitely manageable. Great ski all in all, I would recommend it to just about anyone.
A note to the big guys: If you are above 6 foot and are on the heavier side then I would defiantly recommend you wait to buy these until they come out with the 191 next year. These ski short and a heavier person may overpower them.
MRipper
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eco4493804: Appreciate the info, however there are a shit load of Tele's in every single resort I've skied in the last two years; Aspen, Snowmass, Snowbird, Park City, Sun Valley, Telluride, Jackson Hole, etc.. Most Ski Shops should have at least one Tele expert.
Free Heel Bacon Bliss
eco4493804
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- Gender: Male
I've a week on my new Bacon's and I LOVE them. I tele and for those who are wondering how I mounted them (NTN bindings) 3cm back from marked center (mark on boot 3cm back from mark on ski). I would go 3 or 5 back depending on what you do most (3: park vs. 5 pow). The flex is fantastic ... very happy. Last year tried K.Fujas... too stiff under foot... these rocked. Rides switch better than Fujas possibly due to symmetrical flex... great in POW but in deep (over knee) I felt I might want an Opus... or something with a tad more float... but all and all a GREAT one quiver ski.
Those of you who lock your heels down - your missing out!;-)
Bridger
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Nobody cares that you tele...
dhave
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I do. Thanks for the mount info.
Sebi
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What do mean by "marked center" is it midsole? So would you go back 5cm form midsole for pow? Thanks!
eco4493804
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Sebi:
"Marked Center" on the ski is where theoretically the manufacturer recommends lining up the mid-boot mark on your boot when mounting - there will be a mark on your boot behind the ball of the foot somewhere... not quite in middle... all of this of course is derived from the Alpine industry
More and more folks are mounting tele bindings/boots Alpine style. Meaning lining the boots up just as they would on an alpine ski. Remember it used to be pin line on chord center... but with twin tips, early rise tips and tails and rocker we have negated the premise that drove that methodology.
I find unless your mounting a ski your gonna use solely in the park you still benefit form moving the binding back a bit. I always start at 5cm? and then honestly I 'look at it' and voodoo it ? With this ski I ended up at 3cm back. My NTN bindings allow for 1.5cm adjustment forward or back and I've slid it back but only when I'm taking headshot and unfortunately thats not all that often. I found 3cm back seems to work very nicely and keep enough ski out front.
dhave:
Thanks.
Bridger:
There is very little out there to help tele skiers translate all the mixed information regarding binding mounting into tangible usable information. You average ski tech has no idea and if you not in Alta most people have never even seen a telemark skier let alone have a few of them around to ask questions of. Don't be such a hater? life is good.
I have the Bent Chetler for Snowbird/Alt...
laap322822
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I have the Bent Chetler for Snowbird/Alta/Mammoth powder days and it is insane. Mammoth is my primary mountain and am looking for something with more edge to handle the windbuff and groomers when that's all that's available. Volkl Gotama is under primary consideration cause I know I can't go wrong with them. Still, these Line reviews are intriguing. Any opinions for something that machs, holds edge, and blast through the crud when the pows not avail? The Chetler is too loose when it gets firm.
dick speechly
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Check out my review of the line influence 105. Great ski with the quickness you want on groomers, the added metal to beef up the ski for off piste adventures in crud and broken powder and handels speed very well.
Brad Wegman
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I agree with Dick. You already have the Bent Chetler's, The Line Influence would be perfect for what you are looking for. I use the Prophets when too hard for SFB. The influence is along the same line and rips the crud groomers ect..
eco4493804
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Brad,
thanks for the tip on the Prophets... just picked up a pair to complent my SFB... your right, great pair! THANKS
WOW! All Mountain Killer! MMM BACON!
Brad Wegman
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You name it, it does it. Even tours with the Salomon Guardian I have mounted. Came from Prophets that I loved. Plus it's the sexiest ski on the mountain!
eco4493804
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Brad,
thanks for the tip on the Prophets... just picked up a pair to complent my SFB... your right, great pair! THANKS
Brad Wegman
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NP. After spending more time on the Bacons they do have a speed limit on hard pack. That's where the Prophet excels at high speed charging on harder surfaces. Both great skis though.
Killer ski
Charlie Alvarez
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- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
So I have been on a 93 mm ski for the last three ski seasons. I loved the versatility of that ski, but wanted something a little fatter to better handle the skiing I love most, which is in the soft stuff out west. I was expecting to lose some performance on-piste, but was proven wrong when I used them for the first time on my local Minnesota hill. Keep in mind that the runs are short, but I was able to carve just as hard and fast as with my 93 mm skis. It held a solid edge, and the ski was incredibly quick edge to edge. I was sold after the first run, and for the first time in a while I had a blast on a Minnesota hill. I may actually go out one more time before I head to Whistler in January. Can't wait to try them in the soft stuff, but I am confident they will handle those conditions like a champ. I will update when I get to ski more variable conditions.
Definitely listen when people say "size-up." Coming from a 176 cm length ski and being 5'9" and 165 lbs, I thought the 184 could be a bit long. Turns felt effortless with that length and I would not want to ski anything shorter. If you are anywhere near my size or bigger, go 184.
Update: skied four days in Whistler and the ski performed in every condition. I won't expand, but all the other reviews sum it up well. Great ski for any condition. Still shocked by the carving ability for a 108mm ski.
Im deciding between this and the Salomon...
Nick
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Im deciding between this and the Salomon R2 108. Im pretty small (5'11''), and I weigh 175. I need a ski for Alta that would be more of an everyday, playful ski, but i also need it to perform on the hardpack. Thanks!
Nick
Carver Shaw
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These skis are great for everything, crud, big mountain and hard pack. I use my Line's nearly everyday.
eco4493804
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Great ski for Alta... size up!
How do these compare to the Line Prophet...
William G Kunz
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How do these compare to the Line Prophet 100's which I am skiing on now?
Just grabbed the 184 cm SFBs and the Rossi...
Ian Anderson
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Just grabbed the 184 cm SFBs and the Rossi FKS 180 bindings, and I'm wondering if anyone has insight on a good place to mount them?
I want them to be pretty balanced, but I don't want to lose out on stability at high speed and some float. I'm 23 and have been skiing for 20 years, so I tend to check off whatever box is for the most advanced skier. I'm 6'7" and around 280 pounds, if that makes a difference here.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Mark Parrett
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Hi Ian - the good folks at Line said they tested the SFB at every conceivable mounting point and it works best at the recommended line regardless of skiing style. Not a cm forward or back - right on the line. Try it out, you can always bump back later but the consensus on this ski seems to be on the line.
Ian
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Mounted them on the line and they have been great. Good float and good balance
So Nice
Sarah C
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Float so well on powder. Still agile in the trees. Can hold their own on most any terrain.
Good Ski for every condition!
Cameron Wilkins
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- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I have skied this ski in powder and in icy conditions. it holds a super solid edge in the moguls and floats pretty well in the powder as well! Definently a great one ski quiver.
how stable would this be hitting cliffs...
Ryan Nisbet
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how stable would this be hitting cliffs and sometimes doing a straight line and in crud?
Leo Watson III
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These are your perfect ski for skiing powder hucking cliffs and getting through crud.These skis will also work in the park.
Kait
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Hey Ryan-
The skis are definitely stable but forgiving in the crud. When I skied them for this video last spring it was chopped up ice chunk conditions and I was surprised how well they handled it. I usually ski a much stiffer ski, but these were actually nearly as stable and were much more forgiving and lively.
Was about to buy the K2 Kung Fujas but...
Charlie Alvarez
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Was about to buy the K2 Kung Fujas but think maybe I want a bit more width for my one ski quiver. Will be skiing Colorado and Seattle ski areas in the pow, bumps, trees, pretty much everything. Am considering these and also the Salomon Rocker 2 108. Would you pick these over the K2 Kung Fujas or Rocker 2s, and if so, which size? 5'9", 165 lbs, advanced skier. Thinking 178 or 184.
Mark Parrett
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Kung Fujas are the stiffest of those three and the Bacons might be the softest. Bacons and Rocker2's will win in the float category as they are more aggressively rockered, but if I needed to have one of those skis as a quiver of one I'd probably pick the 179 Fujas. Do you like softer skis? If yes, the Bacons and Rockers are still great choices (go long because they both ski a touch short).
Bryan Traber
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If you go with the SFB's, definitely go with the 184 length. I have the 2010 Kung Fujas in 179 and this year's SFB in 184. They are almost exactly the same length when set side by side (see the photo below, kung fujas are second from right, SFB at far right). FYI im 5'8" 145 lb and I feel like I could ski one size bigger if they made it.
As for the difference between the Kung Fujas and SFB, the SFB is definitely softer and more playful. The Fujas also seem much heavier and have less pop than the SFB. Both are killer all mtn skis, but the fujas I like for harder conditions/ice/groomers and park, and the SFB for softer snow, powder and backcountry. I'm glad I have both, but if I had to go with one, I think I like the SFB for an everyday colorado ski.
Everyday Slayer
Caleb J
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- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
This ski kills it everyday. Pow, chop, groomed, you name it, this ski will get you down the mountain in awesomeness.
Now, this is not a straight-lining big mountain ski. Nor is it a East coast boiler plate trencher. This is a playful, buttery ski that will turn your resort into a playground on any day.
So, unless you are skiing ice, or 2+ feet of pow, this ski is more fun than riding a t-rex on a go-cart.
Line Sir Francis Bacon Ski
Backcountry Video
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Kaitlin reviews the Line Sir Francis Bacon Ski at Alta, Utah.
jmi100528565
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I'm moving out to Tahoe this year from Colorado and am considering getting the bacons as my every day ski, but i keep hearing they may be too soft for Tahoe snow? Any thoughts? Thanks!
Mark Parrett
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For the wetter snow at Tahoe I would tend towards something that maintains the playfulness and float of the Bacon but is just a bit beefier - like the Mr. Pollard's Opus:
http://www.backcountry.com/line-mr.-pollards-opus-ski
captain
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I live in Tahoe. And since I purchased the sfb. I have put away the rest of my quiver for ever. The 2013 sfb were stiffened up. Needless to say the wife is pissed all I want to do is ski again and again. Thank you bacon. vegetarian killer.
Martin
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Hey, i got the kung fujas 2011 169 i 5" 7 and 147,7 and maybe beginning to feel abit confused cause i thougt that the kung fujas was the best one ski quiver and the more i read it more sounds like SFB or the Opus is the one ski quiver. So i need some clearering on what u think?

eco4493804
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