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Golden.

Being the genetically-superior golden child of the fatty-fat-ski family tree, the Liberty Genome Ski glides on pow and whittles the hardpack like his brothers and sisters can only dream about. This full-tip fatty with rockered tips and tails lets you float the fluff, yet features sufficient sidecut to keep you from skidding down the groomers like a chump. So take the Genome out and float your switch cork 9 into a deep bed of sweet confection to see why this kid was mom and dad’s favorite.

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Genome with AXL's

I will admit, out of the box I thought...whoa, these are fat for tele! But all that speculation was put to rest on the first turns down Silver Fox in 12 inches of fresh spring glop. Yes, you need to make an adjustment in you stance (wider) but it felt natural to me and was an easy adjustment. The Genome turns super quick when you need to and with 141 underfoot, a fatass shovel, and just enough rocker, they float without question. I mounted my 181cm Genome with the new 22design AXL. I went with the AXL because they offer two more mounting screws than the 01's and others. And all reveiws of the AXL indicated it had more power than other 75mm binders, and it seems to be true. The folks at Liberty were helpful with some feedback on tele mounting location too. I probably won't do much touring with these, it is more of a resort/hele quiver for me, but I have the option so I will probably invest in a set of skins. Stats: 5' 10", 165lbs. Suggestion: For tele, I suggest an agressive low and tight stance to get the most out of this rockerd monster. Tall, layed back, arms to the side style won't cut it with the Genome.

So I am hearing a lot about the Dukes...

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So I am hearing a lot about the Dukes working for these with some BD skins. Just double checking to see if this is really a reliable combination. I understand that these skis are heavy but can they still be taken on a few short Alpine Tours? ANd how heavy are they really?
Thanks!

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The 187s are just over 10 pounds, but the dukes are very heavy bindings. The combo works for me. I have done some easy to moderate backcountry tours and have been comfortable enough that I would like to try something more challenging. At the same time, I am not much of a hiker at all, so I don't have much to compare this setup to. Its on par with my wife's gotama's with barons, but more fun on the way down!

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In my review below, I had the Genomes paired with Dukes. We didn't do any skinning (one of the benefits to a heli) but I certainly got a feel for their weight and reliablility. Overall, it was a heavier set up than I was used to, but it felt really stable at speed. I could see skinning with these, but just keep in mind that you're going to be at least a couple pounds heavier than your friend(s). If you're really fit, or just have slow friends, it shouldn't be a problem -- particularly for just sidecountry stuff or one day trips.

In my review below, I had the Genomes paired with Dukes.  We didn't do any skinning (one of the benefits to a heli) but I certainly got a feel for their weight and reliablility.  Overall, it was a heavier set up than I was used to, but it felt really stable at speed.  I could see skinning with these, but just keep in mind that you're going to be at least a couple pounds heavier than your friend(s).  If you're really fit, or just have slow friends, it shouldn't be a problem -- particularly for just sidecountry stuff or one day trips.
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SUPER FATTIES

I was up in Molas Pass near Silverton and was having issues with my Zealots in the variable snow. In short, the 08/09 Zealots are super stiff and want to go straight, so trying to do any kind of short radius turn in the trees sucks. Jeremy at Pine Needle Mountaineering in Durango, who happened to be up with us, suggested I try out the Liberty Genomes for the next day when we were going heli skiing at Silverton.These skis are awesome. It took a little while to get used to the girth, but I found that it was all mental. When you want to turn these skis, even in deep creamy snow, they turn -- through the trees, on steeps, etc. Where they really rock, however, are in big open GS turns. Skiing them was almost effortless, and I felt like a hero charging it. Needless to say this ski is stable at speed.In all, I found the ski to have the qualities that I crave about my zealots (no real speed limit and great for big GS powder turns) with the added benefit of being much more playful (i.e. EASIER TO TURN) in low speed, steep conditions.Go get 'em.

SUPER FATTIES
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Powder Beast

I bought the genomes this season as my designated powder ski. I got 187's and mounted them with marker dukes (small). I live in SLC, UT and ski mainly at Alta. I am 5'7", 160 lbs.,dalbello krypton pro (25.5), like to push the throttle all the way most of the time when I ride.

I have taken the genomes out four times this season, and they are straight up money. Float and stability are off the charts. If you want to rip some hollywoods, you should seriously consider these boards. They are super wide in the waist (and everywhere else), they have tons of rocker at both ends, and are sturdy enough to keep you on your feet when things get out of hand.They handle surprisingly well in non-powder conditions. I am able to carve it up on crusty hardpack and make it through bumps, although I can't keep it up for long. I'm not a huge guy and it takes alot out of me to push these around, but it can be done. Skis do what you make em do right? I have definitely been bucked around by my genomes. I find that the flex under foot is pretty stiff.

I was able to demo last years genomes (189) at Brighton. They have them mounted with boot center in front of the "dead center" reference line. I played around with the position and found that they were right to mount them there. I was told by the head demo guy that the reference lines on the genomes are based solely on the sidecut, and position is not ideal. So, I have mine mounted with boot center about two centimeters forward of the dead center reference line. There is alot more ski in front of the binding than behind it. I think the manufacturer made an error with the reference lines.

I recommend these to anyone who can already handle a burly ski, and plans to ski alot of powder with ruthless aggression. I would not suggest the genomes as a first rockered or fat ski. If you are already comfortable on something with reverse camber and at least 110 waist, then go for it.

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Great review! I have been skiing the 187 Liberty Helix for the past few seasons; love them but want a bigger powder boards as well. I am a similar skier to JG30 (aggressive, 5'7, and yes dalbello krypton 25.5) but I have about 40 more ponds on him; I'm probably 210 with my back on... As these guys are super rockered, I think that it makes sense to go from a 187 Helix to a 194 Genome. Anyone agree?

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Hey Frac, if you have been on the Genome for the past few seasons, then your Genome is probably the 189, as this year was the first year they made it into the 187.
I don't know if it's a good idea for you to go to the 194, due to your height. As far as I know, the 194 is not really much stiffer than the 187, the main difference is the length, so you should choose the proper length for you.

This being said, if you find the 187 very easy to ski, then I don't think you would have any problem skiing the 194, so it might be the right choice then.

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I think either length will work great, but you might appreciate the 194 since you're upgrading from a 187 helix. I don't think the 194 will be much more to handle than the 187, and it might be more fun for you.

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Ive been riding center mounted 179 hellbents for the last 3 seasons. After a few deep days in the san juans I am starting to get the feeling that I want a bit of a stiffer ski. I heard the gnome might be my golden ticket. I am 5 11 175 and ski aggressively as possible to the point of exhaustion. Any advice?

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EGB, the genomes are significantly stiffer than the hellbents, but not the stiffest skis out there. I'm guessing that the genomes will make you feel like you can ski powder with more skill and agression, and also make you reach the point of exhaustion much faster. I also think that the genomes will hold an edge everywhere better than the hellbents. They might not pop as easily as the bents, but if you push them enough they will snap right back at you. I say go for the gnomes, they should give you a much more sturdy ride without sacrificing the float and play.

I'm 6'5" 180lbs, since these have rocker...

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I'm 6'5" 180lbs, since these have rocker they ski shorter correct? so should i be getting the 194cm?

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Definitely get the 194, if you haven't yet!

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Amazing

I had the chance to ski these last year and was super impressed at how easy they were to handle. At first I was a little intimidated, even a little scared of'em, but it didn't take long to realize that these were simply the best rockered skis out there and a lot more stable than any other.
If you want a big rockered ski that will be easy to turn, this is it. They come in at just over 10 lbs a pair, and are backed up by the best warranty on the market(3years).

going to japan for the season, keen to...

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going to japan for the season, keen to take genome's ski with me but unable to find touring binding to fit ski. someone out there got any ideas. thanks. AG. australia

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Go Dynafit no brakes!

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get some dukes and bent the 130mm brakes to fit

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dukes and BD split skins, no other way to role with these

I do a lot of on-piste and off-piste in...

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I do a lot of on-piste and off-piste in Austria and Switzerland but I'll be moving to Utah soon. I'm trying to decide between the Genome and the Double Helix as a versatile all-mountain ski. I'm also looking at mounting Marker Duke's to the skis to complete the package. What do you guys recommend between the two for me? Oh, and one more question... Skins... Where, how??

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The genome is definitely not an everyday all-mountain ski. I would recommend the double helix or even the regular helix if you are looking for something that rips in all conditions. If you feel that you will be skiing pow everyday, though, the genomes are a good choice. I just got the liberty helix for my everyday ski, because the 105 waist is good for everything. I ski in california, so you might want to go for the double helix if you are skiing in Utah. Especially if you ride a mix of off-piste and on-piste, the helix or the double helix would be your best choice. The helix might be a bit better at carving and is also lighter for park skiing. The double helix is better for a majority of off-piste riding and powder riding.

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Utah has good skiing, however, i think that the genome's might be overkill. If you were skiing canada or alaska powder everyday, sure genomes are your holy grail, but for utah, i would get the double helix. Especially if you want to mount them with dukes and go AT with them. hauling 141 underfoot skis up a hill would get tiring. double helix would be lighter and you'll have many more skin choices.

But, if you do have your heart set on genomes, then I know REI carries skins that are 140mm...I want to say Black Diamond makes them, but I'm not sure, check out REI's website.

good skiin!

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160 mm Black Diamond split skins. They basically cover the whole ski (almost). Trim with included tool as shown in directions

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For a Utah everyday ski get the (single) Helix. It will get you through everything out here on the mountain amazingly well. When you are ready to add a second ski to the quiver, then add either a GNOME or Double Helix depending on your depth threshold. The only time I think my Helix could be a little bigger is in more than 2' of snow and from my way of thinking this is Gnome territory. I'm looking to add a pair to my quiver after last weekend! Also, Liberty skis are super light and very, very nimble for their size. If you are debating between lengths, go bigger!

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It's big

What it lacks in size, it makes make up in size.

2010/2011 Liberty Genome Ski

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Being the genetically-superior golden child of the fatty-fat-ski family tree, the Liberty Genome Ski glides on pow and whittles the hardpack like his brothers and sisters can only dream about. This full-tip fatty with rockered tips and tails lets you float the fluff, yet features sufficient sidecut to keep you from skidding down the groomers like a chump. So take the Genome out and float your switch cork 9 into a deep bed of sweet confection to see why this kid was mom and dad’s favorite.