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    Bring your Pythons to the comp.

    The La Sportiva Python Climbing Shoe with Vibram XS Grip2 sole was engineered to excel in competitions, in the gym, and at the crag. Sticky rubber over the toes and full rubber coverage on the outside of the heel let you step up your footwork a notch for seriously steep routes.
    • Asymmetrical heel design for a performance fit with maximum rubber coverage
    • Elastic hook and loop closure strap helps lower-volume feet get a snug fit in the slipper design
    • Vibram XS Grip2 for serious edging performance, smearing performance, and durability
    • 0.8mm LaspoFlex at the midsole uses a super-lightweight, super-thin synthetic laminate for stiffness and edge-hold
    • Ample toe rand coverage for scums and hooks
    • Unlined for sensitivity on technical smears and high-tension moves
    • Item #LSP0194

    Tech Specs

    Upper Material
    3.5 mm Vibram XS Grip 2
    Asymmetrical Curvature
    Claimed Weight
    [single] 7.5 oz
    Recommended Use
    sport climbing, bouldering
    Manufacturer Warranty
    1 year

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    Stock up while you can.

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: Runs large
    • Size Bought: EU 40

    These shoes are hands down one of my favorite climbing shoes out there. A bunch of my friends agree and we are all super sad that they decided to discontinue these shoes. I would 100% recommend getting a pair to give them a try if they still have your size. Me and my friends all use these for bouldering. They are super sensitive so that you can feel the rock that you are stepping on and trust every foot you place your toes on. Great for smearing and heel hooking. All around a great shoe and super comfortable for bouldering all day.

    I size them one full size down from my Solutions and they fit perfectly. My street size is US 9.5 and I wear a 7.5 in these.

    Great shoes with a small flaw

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: Runs large

    Great shoes for both sport climbing and bouldering. It stretches quite a bit, so purchase these 1.5 to 2 sizes down from street shoes. Very comfortable once broken in and I can pretty much wear these all day and it wouldn't hurt. Only complaint about these shoes is that it does get torn apart pretty quickly, new pairs lasts me around 5 months before I have to resole. To be fair I do climb a lot (5 days a week typically) so it'll vary, but the rubbers to wear out quickly.

    Great shoe, however...

    Don't expect these shoes to last you over one season. The rubber is really thin, allowing the shoe to almost suction to your foot. The heel is fantastic and you can really feel out all those little foot holds, super important when climbing granite.
    The downside to this, my left toe blew out after one week. This may have been because I downsized a half size smaller than usual. The shoe was still climbable and functioned at 95%. A few months later both toes blew out.

    Great shoe, however...

    I clip off of foot chips

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: True to size
    • Size Bought: 10

    These shoes are amazing I've used them for sport,bouldering,slab they excel at everything this shoe wrecks on over hanging routes!! If you like heel hooks get this shoe you'll feel a ton of power when you pull with heel, I'm a USM12 in street shoe I have some what of a narrower foot with a high arch and long toes I got a USM10 in these although I feel I could have done USM9.5 they stretch a fairly good amount, as far as foot chips go I trust the toe a lot on them like I said il clip off it the toe hook and edging power are also incredible il be buying another pair soon.

    My go-to climbing shoe

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    These are my go-to climbing shoe for most applications. I have used them on everything from steep bouldering to longer multipitch. But they excel most as a gym shoe. The rubber is much softer than the other Sportiva shoes I have worn, which I prefer, as it encourages deliberate footwork. They also heel hook well, though I prefer the stiffness of the Solutions for hard toe-hooking. The biggest drawback of these are the lack of durability, since the rubber is so thin. But as far as trade-offs go, I think I gain more from the sensative rubber and affordable price point than I lose in lack of durability. I highly recommend!

    Great shoe for crushing

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: Runs large

    Performance: It performs quite well on overhanging and vertical terrain. On slab it suffers a bit but it's manageable if you have somewhat decent feet. I wouldn't try to smear your way to the top though. Tiny edges are easy to put your weight on, pockets are easy to step in, heel hooks are comfortable and toe hooks are secure. The thin rubber is incredibly sensitive and sticky.
    Feel: I like how they are only somewhat aggressive, you can walk around in them without too much pain. If you sweat in them you will stain your feet and nails orange.
    Fit: I wear a size 9 street shoe and I bought a 7 in these. After a couple weeks of climbing 4 times a week they were fully broken in. I only have to take them off a couple times a session due to the pain. The pull tabs make them easy to put on. The single elastic strap is low-profile and helps dial in a perfect fit.
    Durability: After two months of consistent climbing I saw wear in the toes, at the tip and the knuckle. I guess that's what to be expected with the thin rubber. The rest of the shoes have held up very well.
    Use: I mostly use these for training indoors or competitions. I use a stiffer shoe for outdoors but these were fine for sport climbing and bouldering on overhanging climbs.
    Value: They are slightly cheaper than solutions but they probably don't last as long, due to the thin rubber. I would recommend these to people looking for indoor training shoes.

    Solid all around shoe

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: True to size
    • Size Bought: 43.5

    Climbing shoes have been hit or miss for me for a long time. I could always find one that worked for one style of climbing, but could never get them to work for something else. Then came along the Pythons. Personally, these are some of the best all around climbing shoes I've used! While not the most die hard climber, keeps me occupied till the snow returns, the La Sportiva Pythons let me do a bit of everything from bouldering with my roommate ro doing some trad climbing with a crew of friends in Yosemite.

    My first real experience putting the Pythons through the wringer was the Nutcracker in Yosemite. The climb had a variety of terrain from crack climbing and killer layback to a bit of friction climbing and everything in between. For multipitch climbing there could be slightly more comfortable shoes out there, but even after 9 hours on the Nutcrack (party climb conditions: 7 people, 5 pitch, trad - not recommended), my feet only wanted to kill me once I realized I forgot my approach shoes at the bottom. Hiking down another 1.5 hours in climbing shoes will finally get to you.

    Solid all around shoe

    Great Shoe

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: Runs large

    This shoe is great and really soft especially compared to the Solution.
    I found that the break in period for these is really short, and that the shoe itself runs larger than my other sportiva shoes.
    I would size a half size smaller if I could do it again

    Cobra Replacement?

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: Runs large

    I bought these as a replacement/upgrade for my Cobras to deal with the standard slipper issues (heal popping with aggresive hooking, rotating on small edges, ect.). Just for reference in sizing a 42 cobra is tight but stretches to a perfect fit for me. I bought a 42 in the python and after 2-3 gym sessions it was packed out almost beyond usefulness. I'd definitely downsize maybe 1/2-1 full size if I get another pair. I really like midfoot design (similar to Solutions), it really sucks you midfoot in place. Just like the miura lace-ups these really become a flat soled shoe quickly, rather than an agressively downturned shoe. Overall I'd probably buy them again smaller size.

    Perfect Soft/Sensitive Shoe

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    These are a step up from the Cobra's in performance due to a more refined shape..and are probably even softer than Cobra's. A great smearing shoe...not an edging shoe obviously. My favorite shoe for Maple Canyon by FAR! Get them tight for performance as they will defintiely stretch a lot.


    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: True to size
    • Size Bought: 39.5

    The Python is by far my favorite shoe. It performs well on most types of rock and all angles from Steep (rifle) to slab (Potash) to everything in between (Boulder Canyon/Flatirons). They fit my foot absolutely perfectly (medium tow width to a more narrow heel. These shoes have a much narrower and more sensitive heel than the Solution and provide incredible feedback to your toes. In my opinion LaSportiva came up with the perfect all around shoe with the Python. I wear an 9.5 in street shoe and a 39.5 in the Pythons for a tight/aggressive but perfect fit; no heel slop and great feel in the toes as well as good edging. These break in pretty quickly being all natural leather.


    The shoe got a hole in the left toe

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
    • Fit: True to size
    • Size Bought: 39

    I had these shoes for five week's, one week past the return deadline the left toe's rubber tore. Another person who climbs at my gym has the same problem with the same left shoe.

    Amazing feel, great fit

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times
    • Fit: Runs large
    • Size Bought: 38.0

    I bought this as a slightly more aggressive shoe that stays on my foot over my pair of Cobra's, and a size smaller than them. The heel and toe rubber make this show awesome. The shoe first perfectly, and it's very sensitive. I wear an 8 in street shoe and about a 6-6 1/2 in La Sportiva.

    "Trust your feet"

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times
    • Fit: True to size
    • Size Bought: 41 1/2

    We've all told it to climbing partners, and had it preached to us. If you're like me, trusting your feet doesn't come easy. Enter the La Sportiva Pythons. I just got these this past week, so I have to put them through wringer. But from my initial impressions, I am hooked. These shoes are ultra sensitive allowing you to feel the rock underneath your toes, inspiring confidence to send your project.

    In terms of size, I'm a 10 1/2-11 in street shoe and went with the 41 1/2 (8 1/2) in these and am super happy with that decision.

    Good for High Volume Fert

    • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
    • Fit: Runs large
    • Size Bought: 39

    I bought these as a gym replacement for my Testarossas. The Testarossa fit my foot like a glove. Slightly tight at the toe, but they break in after a few sessions. ThePythons have a flatter profile and are definitely more sensitive. Once I dialed in the size I realized that no matter what there as always going to be some dead space. At the end of the day my foot is too low-volume for this shoe and I ended up returning them. I wear a 38.5 in the Testarossas and settled on a 38 for the Pythons.


      By far my favorite shoe... Smears great, fits like a glove, great rubber! What else can you ask for out of a climbing shoe.

      Super Sensitive shoe

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

      I love this shoe. Its soft. Its super sensitive (you'll see what I mean). And its very versatile. The shoe itself isn't incredibly down turned. The shoe suctions to your feet and make for a pretty good fit. I would say great fit but the upper is baggy unless you have a fairly high volume foot. The shoes itself are awesome, you can feel every nib, jib, and lib under your foot. You are really able to toe down on steep over hanging stuff as the shoe is so soft it bends to accommodate a down turned position. The shoes are also soft enough to bend the other way and smear incredibly well. The Vibram XS Edge rubber is great. I've only tried vibram and trax rubber but I can tell you there is a pretty big difference between the two. Vibram is just stickier and feels way better on the rock and plastic. The tension strap makes a world of difference. The heel cup is great and feels wonderful. With the tension strap you can trust most heel hooks except for the most extreme ones. The toe rubber makes for excellent toe hooking especially since there arent any laces or straps to get in the way. As a slipper shoe down size considerably. I downsized 2 from my street shoe size ( American US) but I honestly should have gone down 2 1/2 to eliminate all the baggage in the upper.

      Awesome Shoe

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
      • Fit: Runs large

      Bought a pair of these to keep as my "nice shoes" for when I need that extra bit of grip or precision. So far, they've done amazingly well. They're incredibly sensitive, so using precise footwork is a breeze and they grip amazingly well. I wear a 45.5 normally, but I bought these in a 44 because I wanted a snug fit. I would say they run large, but not ridiculously so.

      Great stuff

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
      • Fit: True to size

      Climbing shoe reviews should always be taken with a grain of salt. The best shoe is what fits your feet best and performs for the type of climbing that you do.

      Having said that, I'm really happy with the Pythons. Soft and sensitive. Mine have stretched with use and heel hooking and toe hooking still remain solid. smearing and smedging work well. Edging, meh. Initially used just for bouldering and it was great. After stretching out it becomes a more mellow all-around shoe that I can leave on comfortably for an hour or two.

      They keep making them, I'll keep buying them.

      Truth! Buy the shoes that feel good for your feet and help give you control & confidence on the sharp end. Everyone is different!


        I currently have an 41 in the solution and they absolutely kill my feet, what size should i go up or down to for a more comfortable ride?

        Kind of depends on how you like the fit and what level climber you are. I'm an aggressive down sizer and wear a 41.5 solution as a gym shoe and a 40 in the python.

        I wear a 45.5 on the tarantulace. Was thinking of any bumping down to 44.5 because I want the pythons to be my performance snug pair. Any thoughts?

        I wear a 36 in the tarantulace and I tried sizing down to a 35.5 in the pythons. I found the overall fit to be pretty snug but tight to the point I got a blister on both my big toes after 1 climbing session. Returning them for a 36, hopefully will work out, though most reviews I've read said to size down.


        I received the 36 in the mail, they felt too comfortable in comparison, afraid they will stretch too much after some breaking in. I stuck with the half size down.

        I was wondering if anybody could tell how these fit and size compared to Miura VS's? I was reading that they should be sized about a half size smaller than a structured shoe to account for stretch.

        I would go a half size smaller than your Miura's. From what I've heard they stretch a little more than the Miura's. I'm currently in the velcro Miura's and I love them. I am able to set up orders with 2 sizes if you wanted and offer you a free return label for the one that doesn't fit. Email me directly if that is something you would be interested in doing. I can also see what discount I can get you on them too!

        Do I have to downsize Pythons 1.5 sizes...

        Do I have to downsize Pythons 1.5 sizes from my Miuras? I have been wearing a 37.5 in the Miuras and they feel really tight but I am ok with that.

        Not for me. I wear a 39.5 in the Miura VS and a 40 in the Solutions (42-42.5 street shoe) and the 39.5 pythons fit extremely snug out of the box, but I can get my foot in there, so I think I will try them out instead of up-sizing

        Hey Gon,

        I would either stay at the same size or go looser to accommodate the more aggressive shoe. However this all depends on your climbing style. I prefer my climbing shoes to be more comfortable, but some climbers like their shoes to curl their toes more or less. I have found with more aggressive shoes such as the Python i will stay the same size or go larger because the shoe is more uncomfortable in general.

        how does these fit higher volume feet with...

        how does these fit higher volume feet with a wide forefoot?

        Obviously it would be best if you could try it on but this shoe is mostly leather and so it will stretch to fit you better. Also it has a piece of elastic material on top of the shoe would stretch to fit your foot. It is a super ccomfortable shoe so I would give it a try.

        I have been wearing a 40.5 in the Mythos....

        I have been wearing a 40.5 in the Mythos. Would you recommend the same size (both unlined leather) or sizing down?

        Best Answer

        It will depend a little on how you like your bouldering/crag shoes to fit compared with crack climbing shoes like the Mythos. Personally I like a pair of slippers or velcros to fit a little more snug than my crack/multi-pitch shoes. All things being equal I would suggest that you size down to a 40 in the La Sportiva Python Vibram XS Grip2,

        I want training shoes that won't kill my...

        I want training shoes that won't kill my feet after 3 min on the wall. I like my solutions because the fit my tiny heel, but I can't stand them for long... Are these a good option or would you suggest the cobras? another shoe?

        Best Answer


        The La Sportiva Cobra and Python are very similar shoes and both would provide a good comfortable fit for low volume feet or narrow heels. If I was forced to choose one or the other I would slightly favor the Cobra but that choice is based purely on a personal love of slipper shoes for training. The issue that some people have with slippers is that they don't provide a snug fit for narrower feet over time, but the Cobra is such a good fit to begin with that they have never lost their feel and precision for me.

        Is it possible to order a size you currently...

        Is it possible to order a size you currently don't have available? Size 33.5

        Sorry Marieta,

        If we are sold out of a size we unfortunately do not have the capability to back-order or special order this product.

        Does anybody know the difference between...

        Does anybody know the difference between these and the previous version of LS Python?

        I'm seeing a 2011 model on sale elsewhere and it looks slightly different. I'm unsure if it's worth paying a little more for the newer model or if it's not going to be noticeable.

        Usually the major differences are updates/upgrades to the rubber. I'd have to know exactly what model you are referencing to be sure, but I've had these every season since they came out and I have not observed any noticeable difference in appearance or performance.

        Women's Size for Python/Cobra? Alexandra I...

        Women's Size for Python/Cobra?


        I am a girl, and have not seen anywhere what is the "correct" conversion for this shoe between women's and men's sizes. Does anyone know?

        I have a pair of Women's Muiras size 36 1/2 (one size down from my street shoe size) and a pair of Testarrosas size 36 (I went lower cause my Muiras felt a bit roomy at the heel). The Muiras are comfy but not great at all when it comes to performance. I really like the Testarossas, but they feel so tight. I have used them more than 10-15 sessions and they have stretched a bit, but even now when I wear them I sometimes cry after a while(I am a girl after all...) Or I can no longer climb cause my toes hurt so much so I have to bail off of routes when sport climbing just because of the pain. What size would you recommend for the Python or the Cobra? I am looking for something that is tight, but not tight enough to make me cry.

        Best Answer

        These shoes are painful for a couple of sessions but not to painful. I were a 10 street shoe (mens) but i have a pair of 7 1/2 and I leave them on for about 25 minutes at a time. I might suggest a 35 or 35 1/2 for you. These shoes will stretch so much! So if they aren't comfortable in the beginning they will stretch out.

        thanks, Adam

        I just tried on a pair of Solutions and it looked like I should go with size 36. Didn't feel as tight as the Testarossas...Do you think I should size the Pythons even smaller?

        i wear a size 45 muira, which are snug and...

        i wear a size 45 muira, which are snug and not super tight. what size should i get in these? looking for a fit that is semi comfy and preforms well for bouldering.

        Best Answer

        I would go with 44 or 43.5 you really have to downsize them but They are still comfy if you downsize about 1.5 sizes maybe go for 2 sizes down from your street shoe size. They stretch an incredible amount! Downsize, downsize, Downsize.

        I wear the muira in size 40 (2.5 sizes down from street) and I got the python's in size 40 as well. Both fit very tight however the python is more roomy in the forefoot, will stretch more and with the softer feel to the sole they are more comfortable out of the box. Basically, keep rocking your muira's comfy and go down a size for your python's.

        I own a pair of Solutions in size 44. What...

        I own a pair of Solutions in size 44. What would be the best size Pythons to get? My Solutions are sized aggressively, and I am looking to get a second pair of shoes for the sake of comfort at the gym and to extend the life of my Solutions. Also, what are the differences between these two shoes in terms of performance? I've never worn moccs before. Thank you.

        Best Answer


        I did the same thing as you except I bought these first then the Solutions. You should probably go with the same size or slightly smaller with the Pythons. They'll stretch a lot on you. Once you get them broken in, they're very comfortable. The Solutions are going to be more aggressive, however these also have a downturned toe just not as dramatic. If you sized your solutions aggressively, these will be much more comfortable and are better for sport climbing. I also think these are slightly better at heel hooks, which is a difficult feat because the Solutions also have a great heel. Hope this helps.

        Alexander, that is very helpful, thank you! Seeing as your currently #4 on BackCountry's leader boards, I'd be a fool not to take your advice as solid. I'm going to go with a 44, so that when they do stretch they will still be aggressive, but more comfortable vs. aggressive. Thanks so much!

        Actually, he's about to be #3, chasing #2 with a vengeance.

        another question about sizing... I where...

        another question about sizing... I where a running shoe size of 9-9.5 and that is the size i got my evolv defys in. I am looking for a more aggressive shoe, but i', not sure how to size these. any advice would be appreciated.

        Best Answer

        Hey cmip,

        I did the same jump from the Defys' you'd probably be better off with a 9 if you want to be more aggressive. These are mostly leather and will stretch quite a bit. At first it might be somewhat uncomforable but once you get them molded to your feet they'll feel amazing and are super grippy. You'll definatly notice a big difference in edging and especially heel hooks, these are killer.

        i feel that a sportiva 9 is bigger than an evolv 9. it's annoying, but i would go a half size tighter than your defys.

        How do these perform on things less than...

        How do these perform on things less than vertical like slab climbing and crack climbing that is 90 or less degrees? Or are they more of a gym climbing shoe and steep sport and bouldering shoe?

        Thank you.

        Best Answer

        They're pretty pointy for slab climbing, and crack climbing is going to hurt a lot with your toes knuckled over like that. I'd definitely suggest something less aggressive. Like the TC Pro or the Miura.

        Check out the Cobra slipper for that kind of climbing, this is more of an overhung/bouldering slipper. Will not really be comfy in crack or on slab. Another big thumbs up for the lace Miura, favorite shoe ever.

        aside from being downturned and pointy, these are soft shoes. you want stiffer shoes with better edging for slab and crack. laces are usually nicer for dialing your fit for footcams too.

        i wear mythos in a size 44, and i was...

        i wear mythos in a size 44, and i was wondering if these run bigger or smaller? also how, aggressive are they? are the toe crushingly painful or do the work with more relaxed fit?

        Best Answer

        they're heavenly with a relaxed fit. the x last allows you to apply power when you toe in and remain a slipper when your not.

        Anyone know about the sizing?

        Downsize an incredible amount, IMO. Check my review from June 6th 2013. These are not beginner shoes and might be a slap in the face if sized correctly, and you use Mythos normally.

        Nick, theses shoes are really comftorable once broken in. In that matter I would agree with Stefan And down size them a lot! I downsized them 1.5 sixes and there still easier to get on and of than shoes I only downsized 1 size. They will stretch. Take advantage of it by getting them an extra .5 or full size down.

        I wear evolv defys in a size 12, I wear...

        I wear evolv defys in a size 12, I wear street shoes in 12 also so I have a small amount of room which I like. What size should I go on these?

        Best Answer

        Hey Tim, I'd say go at least a half size smaller. The defys are a synthetic while these are leather so they'll stretch quite a bit. I had the defys as well before I went to these. Needless to say these are a much better shoe.

        i have found sportivas to be bigger than evolvs of the same size. you might even go a full size smaller.

        I'm looking for 37 or 37.5. When will those...

        I'm looking for 37 or 37.5. When will those sizes be available?

        I wear a 39.5 Solution. What size should...

        I wear a 39.5 Solution. What size should I go for with the Python? 39? 38?

        39.5. I wear the same size for the Solution and Python.

        I recently just back into climbing and...

        I recently just back into climbing and have been using my old, in need of burial, Montrial Wasabis. What used to be moderate is now baggy and flat. While I'm not the most technical climber, improving in that area is a priority.

        Most of my climbing will done indoors with the occasional summer trip to the Red or similar. After reading review after review, I'm still unsure of what direction to go in.

        I've narrowed it down to this:

        LaSportiva Python

        LS Solutions

        Five Ten Arrowhead

        5.10 Anasazi.

        While I know sizing and overall preferences will ultimately come down to the individual, any suggestions will help.

        I have a low volume foot with a somewhat narrow heel. Again, mostly will be use for gym climbing. If you've had experience with any of the ones I've listed, what would you recommend?

        bro if you're doing indoor most of the time you probably should go for 5.10 anasazis or pythons man, Ive had the both of them and it comes down to fit (depending on the shape of your feet) between the two, you've got to try them on but I can tell you that pythons are my favourite indoor shoes, with solutions being my favourite outdoor shoes although theyre a bit expensive to replace.

        This is majorly delayed but thanks for the reply Kenny. I tried to Anasazi's and once I broke them in, they felt great in my heel but were baggy everywhere else. Currently trying La Sportiva Muira's and apparently I still have lots of run in my heel! I am woman, so I was told to shy away from men's shoes.

        I love the look and one strap style of the pythons.

        I am wondering what size i'll be in these...

        I am wondering what size i'll be in these shoes. From what i have read so far it appears to be that the majority of people don't size these shoes tight enough.
        I wear a 10.5/11 street shoe
        40 in Muira vcs
        10 in 5.10 teams
        38.5/39 in cobras

        I am hoping to buy these in 38.5- I like my shoes extremely tight.

        I have a mid-wide foot with a low volume heel. from other peoples experience do you think i will be able to fit my foot in this shoe?

        I have these and if I had to do it again I would have gone down a half size from all of my other Sportivas. They are amazing shoes but would have been perfect down .5 size.

        Yes, another question about sizing. Many...

        Yes, another question about sizing. Many have been asked and answered but none of them compare these shoes to shoes I'm familiar with.

        So, how do these compare to the Testarossas and/or TC Pros? I wear a 44 in both of those shoes. Would people recommend a 44 in the Pythons or a 43.5?

        Best Answer

        I have the Tesstarossas which I size the same as the Pythons for performance. I wear a half size bigger in the TC Pro since I tend to wear them for longer periods of time and wanted a little additional comfort. So basically size them the same as a 44.