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A minimalist slipper for steep boulder projects and sport routes.
- Unlined leather upper will stretch about one full size
- Aggressive down-turned shape for steep routes and bouldering problems
- Vibram XS Grip2 for serious edging performance, smearing performance, and durability
- 0.8mm LaspoFlex at the midsole uses a super-lightweight, super-thin synthetic laminate for torsional rigidity and a sensitive feel
- Slip-on design makes this shoe an excellent choice for bouldering
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- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I have been wearing a pair of La Sportiva Pythons for a while and wanted a gym version of them, enter the Cobras. I ordered them in the same size as the Pythons and they fit great. They are tight and sensitive but still comfortable so I can easily wear them in the gym for an hour or more. The Cobras work great on vertical and overhang problems, the only issue is if there is some serious heel hooking needed these might not be the best shoes for that, but that seems to be the case for most slippers. I would very much recommend these to a friend.
how do these size compared to the muira...
how do these size compared to the muira lace? wear a 48 street shoe and a 44 in miura, should i get these an extra half size smaller for the stretch? looking for a snug toe curling fit.
It sounds like you are already sizing down considerably in your Muira's. If you are achieving a snug "toe curling fit" there I would recommend staying with the 44 in the Cobra. I don't think you will need to go down an extra half size even with the minimal stretching that will occur over time.
I owned both this slipper and have extensive Miura lace experience as it's my all time favorite shoe. These slippers need to be sized around a full size smaller than the Miura lace and velco shoes, even though they are all built on the same PD75 last. As reference, I go for the absolutely tightest fit possible with my shoes where they can break in to have 20min session comfort.
I have a 8 US men's slightly higher volume foot:
41 EU down to 38 in the lace
41 EU down to 37(36.5 is possible) in these slippers
If you really want a long lasting performance fit and can handle a little pain in the beginning, use a plastic bag on your heel the first few times you put on an unlined leather shoe to help it slip on easily. They stretch like crazy and you'll notice huge comfort gains in only a few hours of using the shoe.
Do you carry this shoe in 36.5 or are you...
Do you carry this shoe in 36.5 or are you sold out?
Sorry Yoshie, we're all sold out in the 36.5, and we don't seem to be getting in any more any time soon. If you're still looking for a similar shoe, check out the 5.10 Moccasym here:
Hope that helps!
How do these shoes compare to the Pythons...
How do these shoes compare to the Pythons (size, feel, etc)?
So this is basically the slipper version of the Python as far as fit is concerned. Its going to be a little harder to get on since you can't open it up like the Python. Also, without the hook and loop closure you can not tighten it down for a more precise fit. With that said I would get the exact same size unless the Pythons fit either small or large on you in which case I would adjust accordingly since there is no room for adjustment in these shoes.
Thanks, I will go for the same size shoe then!
Great Shoe, size down!
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
- Fit: Runs small
I've used these shoes a couple times, so far they have been great. I sized down a bunch. I originally bought size US6 (38) mens, but they were too big so I exchanged them and got 5.5 (37.5). My street shoe size is size 8, I wear size 8 in 5.10 Teams. So I sized down 2.5 US sizes.
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best performance slipper
Bought these for bouldering but they have made it into my sport climbing bag too. Great once you develop more foot strength allowing your toes to really pull and push... rubber is thin so dont drag your feet or youll blow though them.
La Sportiva Cobra Vibram XS Grip2 Shoe
good shoe for bouldering, face
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
This is a decent shoe, but sizing might be tricky, depending on what you're after. Better for face and bouldering. Heel cup is good, so you can heel hook if you size them tightly enough. I would not recommend them for crack climbing (like, for desert splitters). I looked at these as an alternative to 5.10 Moccasyms. Cobras have a more pointed toe box, so that it is highly unlikely your toes will lie flat. I don't have Morton's toe; regardless, 2nd and 3rd toes will not lie flat, even in larger/looser sizes.
Sizing: I wear a street size US 9 mens shoe. I have a size 40 lace Katana, which are sized for agressive face climbing and bouldering. Toes are curled over, so I can't stick them in a crack (or, it's excruciating to use them for crack). I have a size 41 TC Pro, which is sized for all-day comfort and crack climbing (toes are flat). A size 41 Cobra puts my toes in the same position as the size 40 Katanas.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
Had these shoes since christmas. They took awhile to break in, but are incredibly solid shoes. I wear a 9.5 / 10 in a street shoe. Went with a 39.0 in these, and they are reaaaally tight, but after around 10 bouldering sessions they came around and don't hurt anymore. I think next time I would definitely size up to 40.0, but maybe i'm just a wuss.
anyone ever size these for crack? I have...
anyone ever size these for crack? I have had mocs but the fit has always been suspect. also I don't dig the red feet
got some input they are killer for thin crack
good for thin cracks where you don't expect to get your full foot/toes in. Your toes will probably not lie flat enough for hand-sized or larger cracks, and it will be really painful on your toes. YMMV, as far as the pain thing is concerned.
in my other crack shoes even if my toes are half curled, as long as the shoe give them room to lie flat I can jam all day. I was really curious if they have something rigid like P3 (but not listed) to give them a down turn. things like that can mess with your sizing of crack shoes
I was curious what size would these be...
I was curious what size would these be best in for crack climbing?
Currently I wear 39 in solutions for bouldering and 39.5 in miuras for sport.
I wear roughly an 8.5 shoe, and wear these in a 38.5. The fit is aggressive and I'm not sure if I could handle shoving my toe into a crack. You might need to go with a half size up from your muiras to get a comfy fit. They will stretch a bunch though, so also keep that in mind
I've had a few pair of these and they are still one on my favorite shoes. I use them for warm-ups, gym endurance training, and most of my bouldering up to a certain level and type of climbing. For overhanging caves you probably want the Solution or Pythons.
For a performance fit you want 4 Sizes down from street!
There is a lot of questionable climbing shoe sizing advice on Backcountry so be careful what you use as a guide. The following suggestions (best for lower volume feet) are pretty accurate IMO and matches the words of others who seem to speak with wisdom...
3.5 or 4 down from street (Miura VS)
4.0 down from street (Cobra)
4.5 down from street (Solution)
5.0 down from street (Futura)
For example, with a 10.5 street shoe you want about a 39.5. Yes its going to hurt for awhile but otherwise they will be sloppy after breaking in.
Essentially a Miura slipper
Great shoe, a lot like the Miura lace, they're versatile, high performance and sleek.
The main difference with this shoe is that its unlined leather upper and thin (3.5mm) sole make it more flexible and sensitive, but less precise than the Miura. This is great for overhangs and gym climbing, but makes them suffer on edges, especially as they break in. The vast amount of elastic needed in this shoe to keep them snug on the feet is also less comfortable than a lacing system, because you can't eliminate pressure points.
On the upside, they are not too expensive, and go on and off really easily. I sized them they same as my Miura's and the fit just a hair tighter.
bought these a few weeks back and i have to say i love them, for beginners and more advanced climbers. If you are considering to buy them take in to account that you must buy them 3 euro sizes smaller than you normally would, I usually have a size 46 with la sportiva but 43 was the size for me for these shoes
but there are 2 downsides
- it takes a long time to break them in but after that they have a amazing fit nice and snug without constricting
- they stain your feet orange, was kinda funny in the beginning but now its bugging me a little, makes me wonder about the quality of the shoe
Butt... i still recommend them to anybody who wants to get new climbing shoes :D
i love these shoes! they grip great and mold to your foot perfectly. but it does take a while to break them in, i bought them 2.5 euro sizes below my normal climbing shoe size and it was definitely painful the first couple of climbs but was totally worth it. they are now awesome!
These shoes are great. I love them they are great for bouldering and sport climbing. These shoes do stretch A LOT. Most people say that you should go one size down, but since it is a slipper I went smaller because they will have the tendency to slide on your foot on the occasional heal hook. I normally wear a 43.5 but I went to a 41 and have had no problem on heal hooks. I have a very narrow foot, and they fit great. I have kinda hairy feet, so when I put on the shoe it will tug on the hair making it some what uncomfortable so I just have to shave my feet periodically. This is very well worth the money. La sportiva will resole your shoes for you.
Soft, precise performance shoe..
Very soft comfortable shoe for gym and competitions. They strech a lot so i sized 4 euro size downs. Breaks in easily after two boulder sessions in gym. The best part is the midsole is so thin that it is so precise. It fits like a glove and lets you use your feet as precisely as your hand.
Because of very litte support from mid-sole it may be a little harsh on calves during long sport routes with lots of edging.
Also it stretches a lot and loses its shape after some long time and it may pop on some agressive heel hooks.
Let's start with sizing:
I wear a 42 in Miuras and got these in a 41.5 -> perfect (once broken in).
Owowow! NOT for the faint of heart. It took probably 10 hours total on-foot time for these puppies to get broken in. I still can't wear them for more than a couple of pitches at a time. At least they don't try to break my toes when I fall off a boulder problem (I'm looking at you, 5.10 Quantum).
Before the break-in I could only wear them for a problem or 2, or a painful pitch before the numbness set in. They pressed really hard on the inner part of my big toe knuckle (where the extra rubber is). Now they're awesome, they've relaxed just enough and become like a second skin. They also barely turn my feet orange anymore.
I've climbed my hardest routes in these. The heel cup is amazingly secure for a slipper (I've never even had a hint of a problem with heel hooking), which also makes them kinda hard to take off (NBD). You need to have amazing foot strength to get them to "turn dime edges into sidewalks" as per the description, but they do edge well for such a soft shoe. But oh MAN do they smear! I truly believe this rubber (Vibram XS Grip2) is stickier than stealth, and the amazing sensitivity and flexibility of these shoes really help it come into its own on marginal smears. They lose their (slight) downturn pretty quickly, but you can just flex your feet and they'll flex with 'em (use your feet like hands).
All in all, these are everything I was looking for in a slipper (but if you're planning on doing mostly cracks, the moccasym is probably a better suited slipper than this toe-curler). I imagine these'll stay in my rotation as long as La Sportiva keeps making them.