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For the girl who digs powder like pink-frosted cupcakes but needs an expert-level ski that also slices up the groomers like it ain't no thang, choosing this year's ski is no tough decision. The K2 T Nine Tough Luv Alpine Ski with Marker Bindings floats and glides through the soft fresh white stuff we dream about all summer long, but the progressive sidecut and metal laminate perform on the cord and in the crud as well. Because after you hike away from the crowds and earn some beautiful fresh turns in the resort's back bowl, you still turn back onto the groomers near the bottom. You might as well love—or, rather, luv—carving those turns as well. And K2's integrated M1 binding system is the icing on your ski-cake. Its above-average width quickly and seamlessly transfers power from your body to your ski, so you feel nimble and agile even on a wider-waisted ski.
Bottom Line: Don't mess with this tough cookie. (Mmmmm. Cookies.)
I am 60 years old and used to ski quite a lot. I am taking it up again adn would like to buy those "fat" ski's...I don't want to go too fast, want to be able to turn easily, want them light weight...I am 5'5" and weight about 165 pounds. The Tough Luv sounded good...but I just read that review...so maybe not. Anyone with any suggestions. I like the dimensions 124/88/111...but what do I know!
Is there a women's ski that is fat and floats but is also *STIFF* so it will blast through the crud and not get thrown around at high speed? Or would I be better to try a men's ski?
These might be your ski. Crud is no challenge for the Tough Luv. Even as a lighter skier, I bust through it. The Tough Luv is stiff, heavy and floats. You can pick up some decent speed on it, but if stiffness for high speeds is you chief concern, you might want to go to a men's ski.
This is a fairly stiff ski thanks to the metal laminate, and busts up crud, for a womens ski. If you want a really stiff ski though, you pretty much have to go up to a mens ski, maybe a K2 Apache series or even something like the Extreme. Try to keep it at a waist around here though, nothing too huge, because it might become very hard to transfer edge to edge.
My dad bought me these (actually the 2007's, this review pertains more directly to them. I'm not sure what changes have been instituted between the 2007's and 2008's) as a birthday/ Christmas present because he liked his K2 Apache Recon men's skis and wanted me to have the women's version.
I give this ski 4/5 for its amazing performance through crud and powder, but its sketchiness on groomers. This is a stiff heavy ski for an advanced skier willing to push it. It is not very forgiving.
I'm a 5'10" 130lb. expert skier from Colorado. I'm 23 and have been skiing since I was 2. I prefer heavier skis and skiing more technical terrain like steep glades.
Highlights: With a wide underfoot, the Tough Luv's simply float through powder. I've never had so much control in powder as with these skis. They also absolutely bust through chopped up crud and slush. I have total control. As opposed to every other ski I have ever had, which bounced me around through crud. These are also very fast and have limited chatter.
The downside is their performance on hardpack and groomers. I've found these skis require me to take a wider stance and take bigger, more GS-style turns on harder snow. My weight otherwise is hard to keep in a consistent place and I feel like I'm getting bucked all over the place.
They're workable in bumps, but if you're going to ski a lot of them I would suggest going down a width to the Lotta Luvs.
One last note if you're considering this ski, as other posters mention, K2 measures its skis in skiable surface rather than tip to tail. This means that after having 173 Solomon Screams, I spent a lot of time getting used to my 170 Tough Luvs. So be prepared for your skis to be longer, or order a shorter size.
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I am looking at the k2 Tough Luv ski for my daughter. She is 14 and 5'3" and 110 lbs. She is an intermediate skier sking mostly blue trails on the east coast. Mostly groomed trails. I was told we should get a flexiable ski because she doesn't weigh too much and will stay light. I would like a ski she will not outgrow too quick (she will probably grow another inch) but will not be too difficult a ski. Can someone guide me here. I would like to pick up a end of the year deal but don;t have any ski shops I can run into (we live in NJ).
I would disagree. I would look for a lighter, more flexible ski in a shorter length. I'm a 5'10", 130lb female expert skier from Colorado. I have the 2007 Tough Luvs and while I like the way they bust though crud and float through powder and slush, they are definitely an advanced ski with little forgiveness. They are stiff and heavy. (I like heavy skis though.)
Because of how wide the Tough Luv is underfoot, while it's like having training wheels in powder, these skis need to be aggressively pushed through groomers (I'm assuming that's what your daughter skis mostly since she is an intermediate, mostly blue skier). I've found I've had to widen my stance, lean more aggressively forward and ski wider turns on hardpack and groomed terrain than on my previous set of skis, Solomon Screams. However, these skis really do carve when you push them to, a much nicer grip on the hill than some other skis I have owned.
If you would still like to look at K2 skis for your daughter, I would suggest looking at the One Luv, Burnin' Luv, or True Luv.
This is a very good option for your daughter. The ski handles very predictably, and is what almost every female carver I know likes. It is a fairly lightweight ski, with kind of a lively feel too it. No chatter though. As for length, I would say that the 163cm would be what I would pick, but the 156 would also be good for her, at least for the recent future.
Hey Shane What mean not much to the waist? and for boot I have wide feet and big calf, which boots are best because I don't want to rebuy in 1y, so if you could give me a few recommendation. I also will be in Utah SLC / snowbird in 2 wkend. Is backcountry as a walk-in store? And for ski just tell me what I should buy lol and if no binding with which binding hahahaah
Alright I mean that the narrowest part of the ski is not as wide on these, the Tough Luvs, as the other 2 I mentioned. If you want me to just tell you what ski, then I am going to say that this is probably the one you should look at. I can't really say which boots would work best for you, because I can't fit boots for you as I am not in the States even, but in Snowbird you are guaranteed to find a good shop, with somebody to find you a boot that will fit you really nicely, and you won't have to replace within a year, but check out the Salomon line of boots, because they have something for almost everyone. Backcountry.com doesn't have a walk in store there, or anywhere that I know of, just online retail.
After endless research on women's all mountain skis, I considered the Lotta Luvs, but by some twist of fate, landed with the Tough Luvs. What a gift in disguise!! These skis are fantastic! I was in fresh powder to my knees (only 5'3, mind you) and loving it. I hit all the expert terrain, including trees, bowls, hiking to more powder, and the end of the day groomer run, and these skis handled everything like a true champ (uh, and I did too!) Definitely top all mountain ski in my book...
Hi I am 32 y/o 5:4 145 lbs board for 13y and was skiing before I skied 4x this season on spring day condition groom and non groom black diamond, got hook lol. I go to Tahoe a lot and fly to UTAH 3x a year. I want to equipe myself. I am intermediate but I know I will get better. I know nothing about ski. Next year on powder I will board because I can do it all on board but eventually I want to be good at it and do powder skiing, probably get a specific pair for that! So I need it all boot, ski, pole what do you recommend and which size?
This is a pretty decent intermediate ski, not much to the waist though, so if you want something with more float to it check out something like the Lotta Luv or Phat Luv from K2, so something similar.A good length for you would probably be the 163, which will be more versatile than a shorter or longer size. The bindings that come with these are good intermediate bindings as well, making it a well rounded package. As for boots, I would recommend trying some on in a local shop and getting properly fitted. Poles don't have to be anything special, you can pick up anything that fits really, just measure the length from the ground to your hand when your arm is a 90 degrees, and that should be about the length of pole you will want.
Write your question here... Hello. I am 5'4", weight 125, 52 years old, skiing for 48 years. I am comfortable on any in-bounds run and love to ski fast. I ski Crested Butte the most and will even venture Phoenix and Spellbound bowls (although I look really bad doing it) I am looking at K2 Tough Love (currently Salomon Xscreams size 161. Now for the question: what length should I be looking at???? ANSWER TO MY OWN QUESTION: K2 "length" is the SKIABLE surface. For 5'4" the 156 size is perfect for me!!
If you are comfortable with the 161, I wouldn't stray too far from that point, maybe a bit longer. The 163 should be a great option for you, especially for your size.
great in powder, mush, crud, hard pack. My Vokyl Attiva supersport are slightly better on New england Ice. but these handled the ice as well. So happy I purchased these. I'm 5'4" and 128 lbs. the 149 cm are just perfect for me. I ski all the trails on the mountain with great ease.
which ski is best for upper intermediate middle aged woman been skiing for 30 years? i don't want skis that chatter if i go too fast...but want to turn easily
This ski has hardly any chatter at all in it, and holds an edge very effectively. You could also look at Salomon women skis, they have good characteristics, but the K2 is probably one of the better women ski manufacturers.
I think that if you really liked the performance of the Nordica's, then there really isn't a reason for you to mess around with other skis. The K2 line is a bunch of super skis, I know plenty of chick rippers that love them. It all comes down to comfort, and if you were comfortable with the Olympia's, then go for it. Or you could demo more pairs, and get a better idea of the market.
What is the difference between the Tough Luv and the Lotta Luv? I demoed the Lotta Luv and fell in love! But if they are similar to the Tough Luv I would be interested too.
I'm an advanced/expert skiier, 5'5"and 128 lbs. I have been skiing on the True Luvs 16?cm for several years. Last year I demoed the tough luvs and really got into them. However, I can't remember if I demoed the 15?cm or the 16?cm. Which length would you recommend.
Important to note: k2 measures their skis by skiable area, NOT tip to tip like most skis...I'm 5'4" and I have 153cm (last year size)...when compared side-by-side to my friends 156cm Volkls, they were at least six inches longer...I'm 162cm tall and my skis are about my height...their luvs are a little longer this year, I think you'll be happy with the 156...!
I"m trying to figure out sizing for this ski. I'm an advanced/expert skiier at 5'8" and 125-130 pounds. What size would you recommend for me in the K2 Tough Luvs?
My dad bought me these (actually the 2007's, this review pertains more directly to them. I'm not sure what changes have been instituted between more...
After endless research on women's all mountain skis, I considered the Lotta Luvs, but by some twist of fate, landed with the Tough Luvs. What a gift more...