We miss you, Shane.
- Rocker with traditional camber, or K2's Powder Rocker, floats like a butterfly and slarves like the ski legend who coined the phrase
- Cap construction keeps this behemoth ski nice and light so it stays nimble and agile in the deeps
- Fir and aspen wood core creates a solid, smooth, dependable flex that carries momentum through deep pow and powers through turns
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What would you recommend for mounting...
What would you recommend for mounting point? Should I stay on the line, or move the mounting forward? I'm 5'10'' and 215 lbs, and have the 189's.
I would recommend using the K2 specified mounting point.
I am about the same height and weight and would not want the bindings any more forward or back on these bad larrys.
Just to follow up on Andrew's post, here are the K2 recommended mounting positions:
0 to 2cm forward:
All Mountain Riding - If you plan on skiing mostly outside the park and want the ski to behave like a traditional ski, you should stay on the conservative side and mount closer to the traditional mid-sole mark.
3 to 5 cm forward:
50% All Mountain, 50% Terrain Park - When mounting beyond 3 cm, you will lose a little of the traditional feel of length in front of the binding, but with more tail, you gain the control in the air and when riding switch. Seth Morrison mounts his skis at 5 cm forward.
6 cm to 7.5 cm forward:
Terrain Park or Switch Riding - If you bought the skis primarily for the terrain park or are focused on riding switch in the backcountry, you may consider mounting your skis this far forward. What's lost in forward directional float and stability is made up for in switch riding and landing balance and performance. From 6 cm to 7.5 cm forward is where Pep and Andy typically mount their skis.
That being said, I'd still stick to Andrew's advise, with skis with extreme rocker like this, a slight change in mounting position can have a magnified effect. I'd go your boot midsole line over true center of the ski.
Thanks Andrew and Mark! Really appreciate the help, you both made good points to keeping it on the line with this ski, that's what I'll do.
We're stoked it helped Steve! Hope you get some snow your way soon!
An Edit Of Mine Shot On My Pon2oons
This Turn's for you Shane
I just may have to renew my pontoons this year. Here's a shot from below the Gad Chutes @Snowbird last season.
I would like to mount NTN either freedom...
I would like to mount NTN either freedom og freeride. But no brakes seem to be wide enough. Besides not mounting a brake does anyone have a solution.
Go with one of the bindings that offer 130mm brake width. The brakes will need slightly bent to clear the edges. A shop can do this for you if you are having them mount the bindings.
As an example, the rossi fxs is available in 130mm width, and depending on what size ski you would order, they would need bent 0 - 8 mm apart.
What length is the most apropriate for me?...
What length is the most apropriate for me?
172lbs 5.8"and like to take some speed, but more into ski/pillow skiing.
Im thinking of the 179 for that extra agility, but at the same time i feel 189 for float and the fact that im buying a 132mm ski; why not go all in? :)
Cant decide and need some help.
and also: where should you mount this bbs?
Victor - if I were you I'd go for the 179. They measure slightly long, but not like the old Pontoon's which measured 6-7cm longer than K2's reported length. At your weight, the 179 will float you just fine if you're skiing trees.
That being said, the converse argument is also valid. I mean, what are you worried about? Quicker turn initiation in the bumps? They are PONTOONS!
Since you're not a huge guy, I think you's rather be able to maneuver if I was using this to ski trees. In any resort I ski at regularly (Snowbird, Solitude, Alta, Snowbasin), it wouldn't even be a question, I'd go for the bigger sticks, but I need that wide-open bowl stability offered by the 189.
My favorite powder ski of all time.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
Best powder ski I have been on to date. I am riding the 189's and loving them. As a former racer, I ski fast and aggressive. I have been on these numerous times this year and have no complaints. With how well the skis did in deep snow on open terrain, I was really surprised at the amount of "pop" they had in the trees. These things really come alive bouncing around trees. Once out of the powder, the ski had no problem getting back to the lift line through tracked out snow. They can be a little squirmy on groomers though.
For resort riding at Alyeska in deep snow or cat skiing in south central AK, I couldn't imagine a better ski.
I am 5'10", 200 lbs, should I go with 179's...
I am 5'10", 200 lbs, should I go with 179's or the 189's? I am an expert skier and have the K2 sidestash, which I love. I'm looking for a ski to slay the way deep $#!^ at Mt. Baker, WA.
I don't know if you made your purchase already and sorry for the late response. I am 6'0'' and 210. I am on the 189's and love them. I've been on them about 8 times this year and in nothing less than 6'' + of fresh snow. I haven't been on the 179's but can tell you I am more than satisfied with the 189's. Just the added surface area on the 189's will help you float better at 200 lbs. Plus, with the skis rocker and early rise tip, the 189's will be more stable at higher speeds because they will have more ski on snow.
If you are going to ski this ski fast and aggressive, I would go with 189's.
Had a chance to ski these last year in a 179. They were so much fun and very lively. The main thing I noticed was the hard pack performance was much better than the previous years model. Basically easier to get back to the lifts after hitting up your secret stash. Found that there was a better tail on powder landings. The twin tip wheelie is a thing of the past with these in deep powder. Add these to the quiver.
I am a lifetime ski racer, so i have had much desire for a twin tip ski. The new pon2oon is the perfect ski. It skis powder, wait, it kills powder. You float on top of dust on crust, you float on top of endless powder. It is also quite fun on the groomers even... not like a pair gs race skis, but like a fun pair of trick water skis, the powder rocker, partial reverse camber makes a fun "slashy" ski where you can throw it sideways and play like a snowboarder, but in powder this turns into a sick slash. You need these skis, i think....i live in the Midwest and have only had a few storms and i am still stoked to have them next time i get to ride big mtn. My only concern is that it is a cap construction ski, i hope it holds up, but we will have to wait and see.
Other than the k2 pon2oon skin. Which...
Other than the k2 pon2oon skin. Which skin is compatible for the pon2oon 189?
Go with something that is 140 in width. You will have to cut them to match the ski's shape but there are a ton of videos out there on how to do it. Black diamond has a bunch.. seriously just hop on youtube its easy. Plus you will save a lot of money finding a skin on sale vs. paying out the nose for the special pontoon skin. seriously 200+ dollars wtf?
do you not sell the matching K2 climbing...
do you not sell the matching K2 climbing skins for the pontoons?
K2 sells the skins directly on their website.
Weight per ski for the 189s?
Weight per ski for the 189s?
I am 6'4 220 and an ok skier. Is 189 big...
I am 6'4 220 and an ok skier. Is 189 big enough for me?
yeah the pontoons are a really fun ski they are basically good for an intermediate to expert skier. You don't need to get a really long ski if you buy the pontoon because you will get plenty of floatation and stability even if it may seem a little small.
How is this for a tele setup? I've never...
How is this for a tele setup? I've never seen any Pontoons on tele mountings. I'm mostly a resort skier but do some backcountry as well. Are there skins to fit this or should I stick to my HIppie Stinx?
You would find these very cumbersome in a tele setup
I have trouble keeping the tips out of each other even on my alpine setup
You would need 160mm wide skin material (cant think of the brand that makes it off the top of my head)
Bottom line Not a good choice if you want to tele
I've seen quite a few people on the tram with the older version of this ski and tele binders, mostly mounted with Hammerheads or G3 Targas. You're probably going to have to adjust your style of skiing as these skis have absolutely massively wide tips. I can't say for sure if you're going to have trouble as I've never seen you ski. Since the ski continuously tapers from tip to tail, you would be best off with a 130mm or 140mm skin. You would get full coverage underfoot and in the tail, and you would have some base exposed at the tip. But since there is so much rocker in the tip, that doesn't really matter as you will not be getting any traction from the tip while skinning anyway. K2 also makes a custom cut skin for this ski. This ski is designed as part of the K2 Backside series which means it's meant to be used in the backcountry on the way up and down as a tele and alpine touring ski, as well as with alpine binders. It has a tail notch for skin hooks, so that's a clear indication of it's purpose. I can't say for sure if you will like it, or how comfortable you will be with these skis mounted tele, but there are plenty of people that ski them with tele binders.
K2 has precut skins for these skis. As you can see the rivets in the tip and tail are what you hook your skin up to. So there is no need to guess. As far as tele skiing on these. These things are massive. Which makes it a lot of ski to carry up the side of the mountain. What a lot of people dont understand is that tele skiing isn't always a powder day. So you need a ski that can ski it all and get you out of tight situations. I would look at K2's other skis such as the darkside, sidestash, or coomback. Those are good big mountain chargers, but are also geared to be good tele skis as well.
This is a very late response to this question but... I have skied these tele and absolutely love them. I tele most of the time so it is what I am used to. I have skied them in every condition (powder, hard pack crud, spring mush, corn, and groomers) and they are now my go to ski for everything except groomers. I have mounted on them the 22 design axl bindings set at the stiffest setting. They are mounted 3 pin line at cord center +1 cm forward. I feel they are slightly to far back and if I were to do it all over again I would mount them +2 cm or possibly even +3 cm forward of cord center. The tapered sidewall makes the balance point farther forward than you think. Hopefully this helps people in the future.
Sorry, tapered side cut, not sidewall.
K2 Pon2oon powder skis by Bryce Phillips
bindigs for thit skii?????
bindigs for thit skii?????
bindings for this skii size 179
For a Pon2oon its going to depend on what you looking to do. Are you going to be using it as a touring ski? or just a normal downhill ski? Most people will most likely go for a touring set up. I would suggest a Diamir Freeride Pro or a Marker Duke same price but the Diamir is a little bit more serious touring and the Duke is a little more freeride oriented. For a cheaper option go for the Marker F 10 or 12. If your not looking for a touring setup i suggest a Marker Griffon or Jester. Make sure with any binding you get you will need to get a 130 MM brake. If anything take it in to a ski shop and they will give you all the help you need.
If this is only for the resort I would recommend the Marker Jester. If this is for a mix of inbounds and backcountry skiing I would recommend the Marker Duke. If this is going to be a backcountry ski, I would recommend the Dynafit FT12 or the new Dynafit Radical.
Based on my experience with marker bindings, they aren't anything to consider buying. While the dukes are decent bindings, The salomon sth 16 is the best choice for resort and heli/cat skiing. If you want to tour I would go with the duke but if possible try not to get markers.
this is the new disign for the 2012 pontoons, they changed it for the first time since it came out