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I've skied the 161 Shamans at Mt. Baker both BC and on resort runs. Those we're rentals; but I've now purchased a pair. The Shamans performed great in both situations, includong on moderate bumps. So, I'm sold on these skis. However the skins I had for BC were to narrow (rentals). So...., now I'm looking to purchase skins, and my question is whether Blk Diamond STS(more expensive), or Climbing Skins Direct (moderately priced)are relatively equivalent in performance. I've seen comments on forums espousing both products. Or, is there another alternative out there that I am not aware of?
Write your question here...Whats the general...
Write your question here...Whats the general opinion of performance of skins from Climbing Skins Direct vs. Black Diamond STS skins?
can i use these on the east coast?
can i use these on the east coast?
My New Everyday Ski
I was introduced to Icelantic when a freind sold me a pair of Icelantic Pilgrims. I spent almost my whole season on the Pilgrims, finding that they took me everywhere. Last season I was back on the old Rossignol Scratch BC's at 185cm because I needed a bigger ski so avoid shin pain. I got the Shaman 173s about half way through the season and its all I want to ski ever again. I ski the rockies and love going fast, making carves, skiing the trees and even the bumps. I'm fairly positive that these are the best tree cruising/all-around carving ski ever produced.
Shamanizing at Alta
Scotty VerMerris slaying pow at Alta on the Icelantic Shaman.
What size of skins are people using on...
What size of skins are people using on these? Would a 125 work ok and trimmed just slightly around the waist?
A 125 would do it, but a 140mm would be best. You should get decent performance with a 125, though.
I use 130 Black Diamonds, they work great, just make sure you get the type of mohair you want. I prefer the BD to the G3's and other comparable skins cause of the design of them, I just think its a little bit better. Oh, and get ready to shred, these skis are ultra light, ultra tough, and straight up ready for backcountry
One ski quiver
Last year I mounted a pair of Nomads with freerides and after 25 days I didn't want to go back to my BD Havoc with O1s. I decided to pick up a pair of 184 Shamans and sold my Havocs. Due to injury and surgery I had a late start this season. Little snow at A-Basin, and the foot pain from surgery, made these a little work to figure out. Last week I spent four days at Alta and I didn't put on the nomads even once. These skis were the most fun I have had freeheeling! Even when I wimped out into a parrallel turn they floated and carved like nothing I have ridden. I now understand why Ben and the crew at Icelantic only change the graphics!
Ok, I tried my buddy's 161 cm w Bishops...
Ok, I tried my buddy's 161 cm w Bishops and LOVED 'em but am still a little hesitant on size (despite speaking with the guys at the Icelantic shop in denver). I'm 5'7'', 145 lb, expert; would 173 cm be the way to go or is everyone right about the 161 cm? Seems just too short....
I think the 173 would be great for you. The Shaman is super turny, so there won't be problems in tight spots. I don't really know why they suggest going short with them. Skis are skis. Short skis are short and long skis ski long. I'd say go for the length that seems right to you. Long skis are better for speed, powder, chop, and drops, but short is good for trees. Hammerheads or Bishops are a good choice for these sticks. Enjoy!
Carving in the Shamans
Icelantic Shaman- awesome in powder AND carving sick turns on blue sky groomer days.
Nothing sham about Shamans
i own a pair of Shaman 161s (I'm 5'7", 165 lbs, expert skier) fitted with TLTs. These rock in deep powder like nothing I've ever skied. The further forward you get, the more they power up. No diving; they float above everything, and squirt through tight trees like mercury. Inbounds, they are total play on the groomers. However, in double-black bumps they are the worst; you get thrown around like corn in a popper. Definitely a BC powder tool.
UPDATE: Have now taken them on several long BC trips. You will totally love having this much flotation when skiing bottomless fluff with a big pack.
Icelantic Shaman is Ridiculously Fun!!!
I skied the Icelantic Shaman (184 cm) on an average non-powder day at Alta and wow... These were so much fun. I'm 5'11" and weigh 210 lbs. I am an expert skier who skis the WHOLE mountain, even groomers. These were the most fun fat ski I've ever skied not in powder. They absolutely rail on the groomers leaving deep slalom/GS like arcs in the snow. Super fast and smooth. Also, these "carved" great turns in crud and heavy powder left about 5 days since the last storm skiing around Vail Ridge. Haven't skied them on an epic powder day yet, but how can a 160 shovel and 110 underfoot not be good in the powder? I also enjoyed the traditional camber of these skis. To sum up; I think these skis are a great one ski quiver EXCEPT for in the park.
So I rode these in some good pow this last week and loved them. I still skied the 184 and found that they soak up the crud and let me carve/fly like nothin'. Also, they rip through the deep powder and leave beautiful tracks. Sweet!!!
Fwords YEa!!!! (Not enough stars avaliable)
I just demo'd these at Alta after skiing all day and wasting my legs in the crud on my Atomic sticks. The Islandic demo crew was there and on a whim I tried the 161 Shaman's eventhough I ride an 173 Sugar Daddy. (BTW those are going on Craigslist tonight after riding these!) They were mounted with alpine bindings so I decided to comment since only Tele boys have so far.
About me: 173 lbs, 5'9, advanced.
Snow Conditions: 3 days after large dump, new years so lots of traffic ski'd out bumps and crud all around with fresh stashes between trees.
Things I wouldn't try on my Atomic's after owning them for a year felt like a breeze on these. We hunted down all kinds of snow so I could get a good feel for them and I loved every moment.
The crud just melted to butta, the "groomers" were blazingly fast and the steeps made me leave my posse in the dust. If I had to summarize my experience on these in one word it would be "INSPIRING"!
I waited for the 173's but the lucky bastard that had those checked out was probably having as much fun as I had on these. I will want to try them before shelling out my stash, so I'll be looking for the sales rep tomorrow!
Will be buying once I try the longer size in the powder!
upside down shaman's
5'10" 130 tele fella, I rode these tele at Bachelor in some thick powder and crud and was really impressed with the ease of performance in the thick stuff but on the packed snow they were way out there - too much work with one knee dropped to hold an edge, too much surface area for a lighter advanced skiier. And less important but - the graphics are way too Sci-fi and dark for me. Cool company though and I hope they make it.
some tele pow
OK, I have to admit that I was nervous trying to telemark on these bad boys (and they are BAD as in GOOD), and it appears that I was right to be concerned. The wide shovel and easy turn initiation only play to your advantage if you are making a parallel turn--dropping the inside knee even a few inches engages the tip of the rear ski, causing a rapid divergence of the legs--ie, the splits. Eek!That said, these are freaking amazing sticks skied alpine, and they cut through the nastiest, mankiest, most horrible snow I've skied in years with amazing ease, making even breakable crust on sopping-wet knee-deep snow a hellofalotta fun. My first day on them was on an alpine setup, and I couldn't believe how nimble and versatile they were. Lines that would give me pause, if I skied them at all previously, were simply no-brainers with these boards. "Why WOULDN'T I ski that?" So I did, and it was fabulous.I'm going to give tele another chance on them, but expect that they'll get re-mounted with TLT binders (all praise the versatility of the Scarpa Terminator Pro X) and that my NTN bindings will find a home on some other pair of boards...
Updates: I knew there had to be something wrong with my setup, and not the ski, because everybody else who teles on them loves them--It turns out that my mounting was just a little too far back. I moved the bindings forward an inch, and they ski amazingly well. No more problems with the tips hooking or the tails feeling too small.