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King of the hill!
I'm 6 ft, 215 lbs, Rode these (173mm) through fresh and day-old Wasatch powder days. OMG these are amazing boards. I loved every moment, from stomping through deep powder that had been chopped up through early day runs, to thigh-high freshies through the trees, to hard-pack groomers, these did every thing I could think of, and gave me solid, continuous joy. I felt like king of the hill, charging at descents I would have never thought possible and prevailing with glorious rapture.
I skied the 184s and the 173s for a day each last season in wet, heavy Pacific Northwest powder, and as a 175 lb, 6'2" expert skier, I found the 173s to be unacceptably squirrelly (I actually described it as "standing on two squirrells" to a friend), but the 184s were so solid that I found myself skiing lines I had never even imagined possible previously. As on the Black Diamond Megawatts, you don't have to worry about what the landing is like on these boards, because you're bringing it with you. Ever since then, I've been waiting to see what Icelantic came out with for the '09/'10 season...but today I noticed that Backcountry.com only had one more pair of the '08/'09 model, which happened to be in the 184cm length, and that at the lowest price on the web. Suffice it to say that I'm no longer waiting, and I am now the proud owner of the last pair of these boards that Backcountry had. If you are interested in getting a ski that will power through crud, squiggle through trees at speed, rail on the groomers, stomp landings so easily you'll think you're just out for a walk in the park, and climb like you're on an escalator (as long as you get skins wide enough for the 160mm tip), these are the boards. Get 'em wherever you can, at whatever price.
i am trying to decide between a few skis....
i am trying to decide between a few skis. i am the wrong side of 40, 6 ft and 180 pounds, but still manage to ski about 50 days a year, and am about an 8/10. cant get enough powder, but also end up skiing when i can, so i have to deal with all kinds of snow, including chopped up crap and groomers. i already have 3 different pairs of skis with varying underfoot widths from 75 to 93 mm, and that covers most situations. BUT for next season i am looking for a crazy pair with at least 110mm underfoot, to cruise in nearly everything except dedicated groomers, but to really have fun on the handful of days i get lucky in powder. i have been looking at the icelantic shaman 184, the liberty double helix 190, and the pontoons. i have been reading lots of reviews, but cant seem to get a comparitive idea between these 3 skis. can anybody comment?
It seems like you want a ski that's versatile and "crazy" in the good snow. I have not tried the liberty's or the iceladic's but I have put a lot of time on the Rossignol s7's and pontoons.
The Pontoon is a super powder ski, its 130 in the waist and has a clown-shoe of a tip. and there-fore performs amazing in powder of any kind. But it has some limitations when it comes to versatility. The Rossignol s7 on the other hand Is 115 under foot with a tapered tip and has normal camber under foot, and rockered tip and tail. This makes the ski predictable and versatile in all snow conditions, and the rocker makes it excel in any kind of powder. Whether its cut up, fresh, heavy, light, upside down, or even crusty the ski slices through like its nothing. This ski will take 10 years off your life, you'll be bouncing off things like a kid again.
Best of both worlds
My first time on alpine skis in two years was on a pair of these (my Black Diamond O1s ripped out of my tele skis, forcing me to alpine). I skied these (the 185, I am 6'2" and 180lbs) in 47 inches of pow (that's right, 47 inches) at snowbird on Saturday. Have NO DOUBT, these provide enough float for even the deepest of deep days. And amazingly, when you get them on the groomers they RIP. I suddenly remembered why I loved racing alpine. Medium radius and GS turns on a RAIL, no joke, as many G's as your legs can handle. For a fat ski I was amazed at the groomer performance. The sidecut and camber of these skis makes them more suited for an active and "poppy" skiing style. Smearing is not what they want to do. Handle very well at high speed, I straightlined a couple of chutes (something I almost never do on tele) and felt solid. Tight turns in the trees were great. Also skied these the day after the deepness when the snow was setting up and getting a little many, and they power through crud and variable conditions really well. Can't say enough good things. The graphics are kinda weird, but hey, if you care about the graphics on your skis you aren't skiing for the right reasons...
Versitle Powder Ski
I was lucky enough to try these sks while taking a trip to Big Sky, Montana for their biggest snowfall of the year, and in the powder setting these skis truly come into their own. With a wide base, massive nose, and excellent side cut these skis ruled the powder from start to finish, easily allowing me to make large floaty turns that felt more like flying than actually skiing. I'd have to say that the only downside to these skis is a slight tendency to be difficult to turn on the groomers, but not enough to make it unpleasent, and once you get used to it, it's really not a big deal. Overall a great powder ski that shines on the deep days but is still versitle enough to be taken out almost any time. 5/5 9/10
I corresponded via e-mail with Sam Warren from Icelantic Headquarters in Denver, as I was figuring out what length to buy. I'm 6'5" 205, expert skier and Sam guided me to the 173 as an everday ski. Bought them without even so much as a demo. Best ski purchase I've ever made.
Spent a fantastic week in Big Sky Montana with my new Shamans. Unbelievable stability at mach speed, ZERO chatter, even on the 173s.The big surface area of these skis makes them ski longer than they are. Superior float in the pow, try as you may, they will not nosedive on you at any speed. Ultra maneuverable in steep bumps. The Shamans will slay East Coast trails too. They are easily put on edge. despite the 100 underfoot. I may never ski my Salomon Sandstorms again.
Be prepared for endless conversations on the ride to the top, the topsheet graphics are wacked !!! People cannot resist asking you what you're skiing on.
Icelantic is a big "Up and Comer" in the business.
Turny, but stiff
Great skis, with vertical side walls, wood core, and finally longer than snowblades. Have lots of side cut so be ready to make some turns.
Fun in the Pow
The massive tip on these skis keeps them floating on deep days while a 110mm underfoot lets you sink into the snow a little to ensure face shots for days. The construction is a little different(p-tex sidewalls) but so far they have held up great. Overall a fun ski!
Icelantic Shaman Alpine Ski
Only had one day on the Icelantic Shaman Alpine Skis and found them to rail nicely on groomers as that being all there was to ski on the day I had them. Don't have much to say about the skis yet, but so far I like them and they ski really well. For mounting the markings on the skis ..BC-|.. ..CC-|.. ..|-C..|-B..|-A..
BC is for boot center, CC is for core center and the other marks (A B C)are for tele mounting depending on your boot size. I will post a pic of the markings
Not too bad
These skis were actually pretty suprising. I tried them out on a groomer day, they carved a lot better than I thought they would. The only complaint that I had is that they did feel a little akward at times when i was turning because the tips kept clicking together because of the width. they are still very fun skis and will obviously float in the deep stuff.
I skied these for a weekend here in Utah. They were a gas in the powder, the 185s floated, but may have been too much for me. Getting back on the groomers, they tried their best to throw me around, not putting up with lazy skiing in the least. I am 5'10" and 190, they floated well in the pow, but had a way of tossing my lazy ass on the groomers. Ski aggressive on piste and let 'em float you to the bottom of the untracked.
Icelantic ski markings
BC is for boot center, CC is for core center and the other marks are for tele mounting depending on your boot size
Versatile "powder" ski
Picked up a pair of 173's & have had a really hard time deciding when to ski these over my 168 nomads. As other reviewers have said these things rail turns like race skis (having gone through the longer/stiffer is better phase - including 223 DH boards at one point - I understand). Yesterday was an epiphany ski day; a foot of inlandPNW powder & I ripped on these like I never had before! On the corduroy they are outstanding and although I have not tried yet corn is supposed to like powder. Buy these skis! You won't regret it.
I met someone with these ski's and they...
I met someone with these ski's and they rocked. What is the best size for an expert skier 5'10' 225lbs that like to trees lines of the east.
Icelantic Shaman Alpine Ski
I just took a pair of these 184s out for the weekend in less than ideal, 40 degree temperatures at Alta and the Canyons. First of all, they carve. And not just carve, but track harder than nearly every ski I have ever ridden (including race-stock GS skis) in my life. This is both a blessing and a curse. The positive is when you set these skis up and really roll your ankle to initiate the turn, they LOCK into the snow/ice/crud/etc. and you will be laying rail road-like GS turns that make you feel like a superhero. The negative is this ski is pretty uni dimensional in that it loves to rip those GS turns, but due to its incredible side-cut it does not like quick hop turns or straight- lines. It MUST be on edge at all times...making said turns. I did not have the opportunity to try these out in the pow, but ripping down big open bowls at much higher speeds than I anticipated was a blast. I can only imagine how much more fun they would be in thigh deep blower. BUT...if you are a big mountain rider who is into tight techy lines or an east coast glade fanatic, these skis take a lot of work to really make turn anyway other than their super tight 15m turn radius. If you are looking for a ski that will make you turn like superman on wide open faces, or you want a ski that can crush groomers (I know...it seems much to big to do so, but trust me...it feels like a longer radius slalom ski once you roll your ankle) and open powder fields, this thing is a blast. However, if you like to vary your turn shape based on varying terrain conditions or if you find yourself in tight trees or on super techy lines, I would suggest looking elsewhere.
sizing for 56yr 200lb 5'8" intermediate
sizing for 56yr 200lb 5'8" intermediate
The next size down from the 184 is a 173 which is on the short size for someone your size. I would look at other skis maybe a little more narrow if you are an intermediate skier. I would check out the Volkl Bridge 177cm (92mm waist) Line Prophet 179cm (100mm waist) or if you really want a 100+ mm waist ski then check out the Scott P4 181cm (108mm waist). I've skied all of these before and they are all awesome. The P4's are surprisingly nimble for their size. I skied a pair of P4 191cm and they turned like a 171cm ski and were stable like a 200cm ski. The Prophet 100 and the P4 have metal in them so they are a little more heavy.
Don't be afraid of the width
These skis will rip through any and all conditions. They float in the powder like you wouldn't believe but then (because of the sidecut) allow you to carve down the groomers at the bottom back to the lift. If you are heading out into the backcountry you will have no problem skinning up the hill on top of the snow because of the almost snowshoe-like footprint of the skis. There are no limits to what these skis can do.
Great backcountry skis for pow in tight trees, wet PNW snow and bottomless unconsolidated spring mush. Higher speed limit that one might expect for such a short (173cm, longest they made last season) ski. Above all, these skis are fun.