I don't live in swim trunks, but I wore these in the ocean, water park & a hot tub. These are hands down my favorite trunks this year. I got the Navy with Gold/Yellow stripes (think University of Michigan or University of Cal) Not only do they look good, but feel good, stretch good moving with you. I haven't seen any abrasion or rub, and I ran these down many a slides. Nor have they faded with repeated chlorine exposures and washes. I think out of all these things mentioned, the cut, movement & color combo of these shorts have completed the trifecta of the ultimate trunk! Too far fetched? Not in my book, I love them.