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Great glove don't like the velcro strap
I've had over 15 days now skiing with these gloves. Overall its has what you would want in a ski glove warm, nice dexterity in the fingers , goat leather seems tough in the palm and fingers, secure removable liner, and a medium size cuff. My only complaint is it looks like they replaced the zipper with a velcro strap around the cuff. There is no velcro on the tail of the strap so it sticks out a bit which is annoying. The strap is also rubbing a little below where the thumb meets the wrist material on the glove causing it to wear a bit in that area. Fix the velcro strap and the Hestra army leather patrol glove could easily be my go to glove.
which glove is better xcr or potrol or the...
which glove is better xcr or potrol or the heli ski? do they all come with removable liners
I believe the Heli and Patrol come w/ removable liners. XCRs don't.
I'm trying to decide between the Patrol (w/ a set of thin merino liners for warmer days), XCRs, and the Ski Cross (w/ a set of heavy liners for the cold days) for this coming season myself. My hands generally stay pretty warm down to around 10F even in cheaper spring/lightweight pipe gloves and I usually have more problems w/ sweaty hands getting clammy than just getting outright cold.
XCRs seem like they would be the most water/windproof and durable but maybe the least flexible temperature and dexterity -wise
Better than most
Love 'em. Do wish they had 1/2 sizes, but even so they are the absolute best gloves I've ever owned.
Update 04/11: Unfortunately I had to downgrade my rating on these. The gloves are still great, but after about 4-months the photo shows what mine look like. I had to tape up the holes in the fingers - and these are not seam tears, they're holes where the leather has worn through.
Snowboarders BEWARE - these are not binding friendly. I ride about 80-days a season and the outer shell has not held up to getting in and out of my bindings (they've lasted maybe 50-days).
My hands still stay way warmer than in any other glove I've owned and they've lasted as long (if not longer) than any other, but for the price I was hoping to make it through the whole season. Crazy, but I'm still going to continue to use them because they function so well.
HAPPY WIFE = MORE TIME ON THE HILL
Bought a pair for my wife. She is totally content and happy with them. Warmest gloves she has ever worn and she's very content. They fit perfect as per the sizing chart, high quality and warm. Worth every single penny. And they look great also. Can't go wrong.
Best Gloves EVER!
Best gloves ever! I do snow removal and these gloves keep your hands warm. I have spent thousands on gloves. I'm glad I found these.
warm in the extreme cold
Just used these on a ski trip to Colorado in -15 degree cold and they kept my hands reasonably warm. I also have a pair of the Hestra, "fall line" gloves and these are much warmer for very cold days.
Can anybody tell me how these compare to...
Can anybody tell me how these compare to the Hestra XCR gloves, especially in terms of warmth?
I have used them 3 times and they are already my favorite. Great gloves, can't wait to keep breaking them in.
I have to say, some people think I'm crazy to spend this much on gloves. . . until their hands start freezing, or they drop a glove from the ski lift. These gloves keep my hands warm down to about 10-15 degrees F, then I just pop in the Hestra Polartec liners I bought, and I'm good to at least -10 degrees F. The included wrist straps may seem silly/unnecessary but they have already saved a glove from falling from the lift.
P.S. Plan to spend about a 1/2 hour to 45 minutes working the included balm into these gloves. It will make a huge difference for their water resistance and the overall life of the gloves. Highly recommended!
Is there any wrist straps connected to...
Is there any wrist straps connected to these gloves?
Yes, they come with Hestra's wrist straps.
how does the army leather compare to regular...
how does the army leather compare to regular glove leather?
I'll compare to cowhide leather which hestra uses in some gloves. The army "goat" leather is tougher and will resist wear better. Intially it will be stiffer, compared to the cowhide. I've had these gloves for several years without any noticable wear.
Michael is right. Goat leather is the most durable / hard - wearing leather that Hestra uses in their gloves. They make gloves for the Swedish Army out of goat.
The best gloves I've owned
I bought these Hestras sometime at the end of 2009. Well, let me just say there is a reason that all of my friends and I use Hestra gloves now. These gloves kept my hands warm during the coldest times and kept them cool during the warmer(not -est) times. If you're up at Snowbird in May these gloves will be overkill.
It took a few days for the gloves to mold to my hands, but now that they have I almost never have to take them off to open pockets, etc. When I do take them off the "stoner straps" (wrist straps) save the day.
I love these gloves, but I also love all of the Hestra gloves.
These are a real high quality glove. The included liners are extremely warm - too warm for me unless it's in the teens or colder. I bought another pair of thinner liners that are great when it's warmer. But I had to get them directly from Hestra because backcountry doesn't sell them. Very happy with the purchase!
High Quality Gloves
Awesome gloves. I'm comparing these gloves to Marmot ultimate ski gloves I wrecked last year. Definitely on par, and I'd say they were more comfortable and breath better. I used these gloves for a week at Lake Tahoe from 10 to 40degF. My hands sweat a lot, and the only issues I had was on the one single "warm" day near 40ish degrees. Else, these gloves breath awesome, and kept my hands warm, toasty and dry. The liner is very nice and comfortable, and the leather is plush and has great dexterity. I did use the small sample of leather treatment they provided and the leather really never got wet. conditions were pretty good with lost of powder and cool temps. I'm also a boarder and constantly dragging my hands and shoving them in the snow when i crash! I recommend these gloves...Great Product
Best gloves I've ever had, super warm, inserts are well velcro'ed in so when you pull the outer layer off the inner layer comes off too. zipper doesn't do much, its the velcro strap on the palm side that makes these fit snug. they are an under the cuff glove but just barely, you need to have a large jacket or bigger, these wouldn't work under the cuff on a small or medium sized jacket. also comes with leather oil, a small carabiner clip to keep them together when not using them, and wrist straps.
Pretty Warm and Comfortable
I've had these for a couple of weeks now and have had the opportunity to ski and XC ski in a variety of conditions. I live in the White Mtns in NH and play outdoors almost daily. They're very comfortable right out of the box, soft, no problem gripping ski poles. Handling zippers is fine but buttons or snaps not so good. Hey it's a ski glove.The fingers are a bit snug but I couldn't go any larger in size or the fingers would have been too long. I find them plenty warm in most conditions. Skied in 4 degrees with 40-50 mph wind gusts today and the fingers did get a little cold after a few runs. Anything down to zero should be fine as long as the windchill doesn't get too low. On warmer days the liner has been damp and I've removed it to dry overnight.Overall I think they're terrific if you can find a fit.
how is the dexterity on this glove. Ive...
how is the dexterity on this glove. Ive tried great gloves like marmot ultimate ski and found them too bulky to ball my fingers around a ski pole comfortably. Too much insulation and leather almost get in the way of obviously a warm glove. How is the army leather in comparisson? Is grip and dexterity scale of 1-10. 1 being cant grip a pen with the gloves 10 being can zip and clip jackets and pack clips and grip a ski pole for some serious control.
Dexiterity is great, I'd say an 8. I was able to zip my jacket, open/close the pockets and access things inside my pockets with these gloves on. Overall, I'm very impressed with these gloves. I'm a boarder, but I don't think you'd have issues "gripping a skipole for some serious control." hope this helps
Decent but not Great
These gloves are decent but not great in my opinion. The good things I can say about them are they are very plush and comfortable and the leather is soft and pliable and fairly water resistant (especially if you use the Hestra wax). I do not find them particularly warm - I have to wear a liner with them on days under 20, the zipper pull attachment on the cuff broke off, and they are definitely not an under the cuff glove as advertised.
0 Degree days in CO backcountry...
These babies kept hands toasty even after scoopin away snow to make a spot to eat lunch and resting for some time. The cuff fits nice and snug under the jacket as well.
I never thought I'd use the word "Plush" to describe ski gear... but these gloves are the exception. There are like couches for your hands. I picked them up before the 08-09 ski season and have been up with them 10+ times. I'm a 6' 6" guy with the poor circulation that comes along with it. My hands get cold easy but with these gloves I find myself taking them off on lifts because my hands get too toasty (not a drawback in my opinion). The one issue I've had is that they don't fit easily under my jacket. The gloves have this awkward pull-tab thing at the bottom that makes it hard when you have gloves on. Other than that... these gloves are amazing.