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Great shelter, but not for all.
The Golite Shangri-la 3 (Use to be called the Golite Hex) is a great tent but it is not for everybody. It is a floorless tent unless you want to spend the extra on cash and weight on the nest or the floor, which depending on your weather and location may urge you to do. I have already been told I am getting the nest for Christmas (so I dont buy it for myself) which means in a few months I will write a review for it and if I remember I will update this review as well. Back to the tent, this is a shell only. Its very similar to a teepee except for its smaller, lighter, and depending on your setup preference has only one pole. I like floorless tents, however they can take some getting use to but the benefits out weight the cons in my books.
The pros, you do not need to remove your boots before going in, just unzip and walk in. You do not have to worry about a hole forming in the floor. You do not need to police your camp site for sticks, stones, or the like prior to setup, just worry about other critter entrances before setting up. They are LIGHT weight, take little pack room and typically have no poles to worry about breaking, really a bombproof little shelter.
The cons, depending on weather you may setup on wet ground that will stay wet even after your setup, tey if you have the floor your fine. The stability and all the strength comes from a solid ground staking, IE this is not freestanding. I do not like the stakes at all, they seem to just disappear if you put one down, I like to use Ti sheepherder stakes or MSR Al stakes similar to the ones that came with the shelter since they are bright red and the hole and cord makes it easier to retrieve due to how I like to set it up, see the setup instructions below. You may also share your sleep space with little bugs, if you have the nest your fine OR dont worry about it (me). Some people, my girlfriend included, do not like this whole floorless tent idea, but honestly its hard to beat it after you have tried it.
A few shortcomings of the Golite Shangri-la 3 are that the vents cannot close. As mentioned earlier you can stuff them with other camp items, like your poncho or what not. Some do not like that they do not have a gear loft of hooks to hang lights, Ill talk about this more later. It takes some getting use to on setting up to get a good taunt pitch, which is required if you receive high winds otherwise the wind bearing side of the shelter will turn into a sail and may un anchor itself which will end with the tent flying. Again this style of tent requires a solid staking.
Both my Golites are green. I chose this color to better blend with the surroundings and to date my only bright yellow tent is a Eureka Alpenlite 2XT, which I have also written a review for. A few additions I made to my setup is with 2 pieces of 24 long 550 cord. I can tie the ends of each together with a square knot then using prusik knots I secure them to the center pole the bottom one I secure the bag that bundles the tent and use it for a gear loft. The top one I attach my Glotoob light from to illumination. I have started carrying one of the Golites in my car in the GHB (get home bag) for shelter since I liked it so much due to its versatility and light weight.
A few tricks about the golite and the hex. Setting up can be a pain more so if you have never done it before and you are already in the back country. To resolve this, you should ALWAYS setup or check all gear at home prior to heading out, but even doing this you will learn that there is a trick to it and that the half page of instructions are not adequate at all. To resolve this I am writing what I do to set it up. It may seem like a lot but it is easy to remember and after doing it a few times you can get it done quickly, I could probably have mine set up within 5 minutes from doffing the pack. The shelter is constructed with lightweight silicon impregnated nylon that is durable yet light, the pole, which is similar to your dome tent poles, in that is has 4 sections of approx 1 metal tubing that is held together by and elastic band ran thru the pole with the last section which is adjustable in approx 1 increments, but even if the elastic band were to break the tent could still go up fine. They also sell an adapter that will allow you to use a hiking pole for and the adapter for the center pole to save weight, just be sure you boot up the end of the trekking pole to preserve the top of the shelter.
As everyone learned in geometry class a perfect hexagon is 6 equilateral triangles, or a triangle with all 3 sides that are the same length, that come together so that each triangle has one corner at the center point. So to build this, first take 1 of the 6 pegs and lightly peg where you want the middle of your shelter to be, then remove and assemble the pole, and extended the pole adjustment 2 more holes (should be in the 3rd hole). Lay the pole on the ground with 1 side touching the center stake and stake the 2nd stake at the end of the pole. Then turn 180* (straight across) from the center stake and place the 3rd stake. This is your center line. Now return to the center stake again and come off of it at approx 60 degrees. Then hold the stake where the pole ends and turn the pole to the nearest outside stake you place on step 2 or 3. If you are good the pole should be able to pivot off of the stake you are trying to set and you should be able to touch both the end and center pole, thus creating the equilateral triangle mentioned above. If not adjust the stake accordingly. The move over towards the other end stake on your centerline and do the same. Move to the other side of the center line and do the 1st triangle just as you did before. Now you are out of stakes and still need one to finish the hexagon. Take the pole and place it at 60* to the center stake and pull the stake, then do like you did before but instead of pivoting to touch center and end stake of the centerline, pivot it approx 120* to touch the end stake of the centerline and the last stake you just set.
Once the staking is done you are almost complete. Determine where you want the door and find the adjustment strap at the bottom of the door and run loop on the adjustment strap from the tent body around the stake, then walk around the stakes attaching the remaining anchors to the stakes, then push/ pound the stakes in, then open the door and crawl in, insert the pole to the cup at the center of the teepee and push up. The shelter will take its form almost immediately. Once up, go around the outside and tighten the adjustment straps and adjust the center pole as required for a taunt shelter.
Please note that if using the nest or floor you can skip the one anchor of the nest or floor at the door and push this area up into the tent, the nest will work just fine but it gives you a little room for boot storage outside of the main tent area, but also outside of the elements. I also like to pound my stakes in below the ground surface so that there is no gap at all between the shelter body and the ground, if REALLY bad weather is coming I can wakl around the outside of the tent and kick leafs dirt, snow, or whatever around this seal to really weatherproof the bottom, and I carry a small piece of Tyvek a little bigger than the sleeping pad (Ors exped 9s are GREAT in the snow) to place under the pad when wet ground could be expected. Your results will vary. Here is a video that I found the demonstrates this test setup really well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d98heYvoXBg
All in all its a great lightweight minimalist shelter that can be rigged with a rope via a little loop if needed for more room or what not, however if using the nest you need to use the pole.
Write your question here...Can you hang...
Write your question here...Can you hang both the shelter and the nest by a rope, when using them in combination? Basically can you set them up both without a pole? Does the nest attach to the shelter?
Correction I guess is needed.. For Christmas I got the nest AND another (2nd) golite. My old one is a hex, the new one is the Shangrila 3 (in evergreen). guess Golite make some changes to the Shangrila that the next did not have. Of the few subtle changes, one is the is a loop of webbing on the inside just like the outside. And with the NEXT having the plastic hook attachment at the top, they CAN mate and as such you can secure both and pitch without a pole... But my HEX does not have this inner loop, nor does my friends old next have this plastic hook. So if looks like both need to be the new "shangrila 3" version, not the older "hex version" Another nice thing is that the Shangrila 3 next comes in a gray sack and the body comes in a yellow or green sack depending on what color body you have so you can tell them apart in the pack. Where as the old were both green like like the body.
Sorry about the misadvise above, but I guess it depends on "which" one you have.
Write your question here...
what is the...
Write your question here...
what is the total weight of the shangrila 3with the nest addtition and does the nest give you a floor and total enclosure? How does it attach? Zipper?
Shelter with stakes weighs 820 g, Nest weighs 1048 g, floor weighs 620 g , Pole weighs 430 g , Total: 2918 g/ 6.43 lbs. Floor attaches by six attachment points, seems to overlap enough to keep you covered. I don't own this tent and haven't used it but I thought I'd try to help you out. If anyone else has another opinion, do tell. Hope that helped.
THis is the shelter. Better than any other poleless design out there. It's the weight/size of a bivy in your pack, but is totally spacious. Yes you need to be tough to sleep in a such a light shelter- there's no floor, or "tent" as you say, but this keeps you dry and protected- without having to lug poles. Only 1.8# w/out the pole, just string a line and hang the apex. The very best option if you have to carry your shelter.
Work with it and you should be happy.
This is an interesting piece of equipment. My brother has this tent, and we've used it on a couple of stints in our local West Virginia, once in the Badlands, and once in Rocky Mountain NP. To tell the truth I wasn't thrilled with the tent at first, but it grew on me quite a bit. I recommend you use it almost always with the nest, because both times I used just the floor it got a little wet inside. The odd shape w/ pole in the middle actually works alright, we would pack our gear on the sides (this also helped keep us dry by not sliding against the fly in the middle of the night) and you could offset the pole some (with it between 2 bodies it remained rather sturdy) to where it slept 3 of us pretty comfortably (all +/- 6ft. +/- 175 lbs). I have not used the tent in winter but it did snow on us in RMNP in June, it did great. It is very light, which in turn seems to sacrifice some duriblity, and set up is very quick and easy. It can take heavy windage, but make sure it is staked well.
My opinion for this tent is if you take care of your gear and you're someone who likes to fiddle around/customize your toys you'll probably enjoy this tent, do to the many setup and layering options. If you tend to beat up gear pretty quick and you want toss up this tent on a multiday trip out of the box, you'll be better off trying another option.
any other colours dont like yellow i had...
any other colours dont like yellow i had a green shangri la is that colour still available
That's all it comes in.
Charles, I found one of the green ones on amazon for $180 but I think I got the last one. Search around the 'net, perhaps more are out there.
this add is confusing to me. Am I getting...
this add is confusing to me. Am I getting a 4 season tent for $229.24 or just a tent cover.
Good for tall people?I understand that...
Good for tall people?I understand that this shelter will definitely have enough headroom, but is it long enough (usable length) for a tall person lying prone? I'm 6'4" and don't want to be rubbing on the wet walls with the foot of my sleeping bag. Are there any tall people out there using this tent?
You will have plenty of room if you leave the poll at home, and tie the top of the shelter to a tree branch or a rope that is attached to 2 different trees. That will allow you to sleep in the middle, which is plenty of room.
Does anyone have anything to say about...
Does anyone have anything to say about this tent?A friend and I are traveling for a year, and want something very light and packable. This tent (plus the nest) would allow us each to carry a little over two pounds each. I just don't know how the functionality of something like this compares to a tent like the Big Agnes Sl, or even something like the North Face Tadpole. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks much.
I have the 2 person emerald and the 2 person seedhouse and the last tent I got was this one and I love it! This is way easier to get in and out of than both the emerald and seedhouse, more room too. I use a hiking pole and the 3oz extension with 2 people, to get a third in you would have to ues a overhanging branch and rope. I got it when it first came out like a year ago and have not bought a tent since It did leak on me like a nobodies business. The seams are suppose to swell when wet sealing the seams, but mine didn't and I woke up in a puddle of water;( I called go-lite and they were willing to swap it out but I had seam sealed while I was on the trail. They wanted to see why it leaked. It leaked so bad I took pics. I sent them the pics and just kept the tent.( I would Test it in the yard with a water hose before heading out), But it is my most favorite tent to date. The top vent doesn't have a way to close it and in wind blown rain you will have to use a poncho or stuff sack to cover it. Now if you don't mind bending low into your tent and not being able to star gaze look at the OR night haven and floor. It is way better than the seedhouse 2. The vestibule on the seedhouse is so small it is almost non existent, so don't let the lack of one on the OR Night Haven deter you from buying it.. and if you want something with 2 good size vestibules and plenty of space for 2 people the Emerald is NOT for you. A little small for my liking. Now don't laugh, but I like the Eureka Pinnacle . It has good head room and plenty of floor space for 2 people and a 10 lb dog. Plus the vestibules are nice and big.As long as you don't mind the center pole, this is a comfortable & roomy tent.