Well-hung (with 2010 awards, that is).
- Rapid Thermoformable liner boosts comfort and fat-ski leverage on high-speed turns
- Power Wrap shell uses a customized fit and allows your big toe to breathe without making the boot feel sloppy (room for the proverbial sixth toe)
- Overlap shell design follows contours of your foot and ankle and uses asymmetrical punching for the ankle bones, which means smooth response and fat-ski handling
- Round toe for easy walking and NTN system
- Asymmetric Ergo Bellows design for a progressive forward flex and precise ski control
- Deep heel-cup for comfort and for those with heel-spurs
- Replaceable nylon bellows-protector and injected bumpers on buckles and lower shell boost durability
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I just got some Fritschi Freeride Pro...
I just got some Fritschi Freeride Pro bindings. Will the Garmont Prophet NTN Thermo Boots work with those bindings?
I was told "yes" buy the tech that just mounted my NTN bindings, however i haven't tried it myself. according to him the boot was designed to fit fritschi's and dukes....
My only pair of Teleboots I have ever tried and I got it right 1st time. You need to get them thermofitted professionally w/ packing the sore spots out etc..painful and takes time but worth the investment. I have about 20 days on the boots and they are now like slippers, very comfortable and hold well in fast turns. I see several negative reviews about the flexibility. I have had no issues w/ flex but then again I have not tried loads of tele gear to compare.
Do not waste your money
Wow, can I go back to my old boots and set up?? After hearing the hype, I purchased the entire set up which is NOT cheap. While I like the control of the NTN set up, these boots are way too stiff and have little to no flex. I'm 175 lbs and ride low. These boots make free heeling way too much of an effort. If the boots are cold, you almost feel as though your back alpine skiing. I've spoken to many people who have tried these boots on and all agree, way to stiff with no flex. Don't make the investment, too many issues.
Garmont "False" Prophet
This was my second NTN boot and it didn't last too long for me. The boot definitely isn't as torsionally stiff as any of the Crispi boots or the Scarp Tx-Comp. Granted the boot has a smooth forward flex, but this is to an extent. If you ever get in a deep turn, you can feel the toe box deform over the toe bail of the binding. Garmont designed this boot with such a tight fit into the binding, that the boot will start to fold over the bail and put pressure on your big toe if you have a performance fit. This also cause the whole toe box to deform. This doesn't happen in my Shivers or Comps, both of which I also have a performance fit. The bellows aren't as stiff as stated. I would compare them to a Scarpa T2 or Garmont Synergy, but nothing like the Voodoo or Energy as in bellows flex. For all these reason I lable it the "False" Prophet.
$100 NTN Rebate
Does this boot have a similar fit to other...
Does this boot have a similar fit to other garmont tele boots - or have they changed the fit for the NTN system? I currently have Garmont synergys in a 27.5 - is this comparable to a Prophet 27.5?
Yeah these are going to be built on a similar last as their tele line. Since this falls more in the line of "tele" as opposed to AT. I would think that if you size them the same, you should be fine. A try on sesh never hurts though, lol.
Rumor has it you can ride NTN boots with...
Rumor has it you can ride NTN boots with the bishop bindings. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I'm pretty sure I saw a guy riding this boot in the bishops and thought it would definitely be another plus to buying NTN boots
NO! The Bishop will accommodate the NTN, snap in, and hold, until you flex the boot too far forward. The Bishop was designed specifically to be used with 75mm boots, and use the duck bill to lock in and provide some forward resistance. An NTN boot would not press down against the toe block of the Bishop, causing the boot to slide back and out of the toe bail. The duck bill toe is crucial to the correct function and reliability of the Bishop binding. You'll come across articles on teletips and such that show NTN and Bishop combos, but they all tell that when applied to the slopes and in turns, they pop right off. So, no, there is no added bonus of the NTN boots being compatible with other tele bindings.
ntn garmont to soft
I am 240 pounds and athletic - this shoe is a missconstruction for heavy riders way to soft. Feels like a nike show and not like a ski boot.!
Don't waste your money on this product¨
Awesome NTN boots
Last year I used Crispi Shivers with a Booster strap and my Zipfit liners. (they were very good) Just had my first couple days with the Zipfit liners in the Prophets. (nice thing about Zipfits is that the boots are already broken in) These NTN boots feel like I have as much edge control in tele turns that I have in my alpine boots on fixed heel bindings. Totally awesome. Alpine turns feel like alpine skis. Carving on the on only the inside edge of the inside ski is fun.
Will these work in an AT binding like the...
Will these work in an AT binding like the Marker Duke, too?
Nope, this is just for the NTN tele system -- the only ntn boots that will work with dynafit are the scarpas with the dynafit toe and heel.
I'm sure Gabe is right in regard to the "official" situation. However, I would be willing to bet that you could make them work, if you were so inclined.
The toe and heel profiles of an NTN boot are, AFAIK, identical to AT. The problem is that the boots flex at the bellows. Scarpa officially supports the Dynafit bindings, but they distribute spacers that fit under the bellows to stop the boot from flexing when used in AT mode. I'm sure you could probably create similar spacers of your own that would work with a Fritchi or Marker binding.
There are plenty of reports in the Telemarktips forums of people skiing Scarpa and Crispi NTN boots in (non-Dynafit) AT bindings. In fact, there's an answer by 'kerry' on the Backcountry.com Scarpa TX Pro page, stating that he's used them with Marker bindings.
I should add that Garmont's shell break puts the whole with the half (27 and 27.5 are the same shell), while Scarpa's break puts the half with the larger whole (27.5 and 28 are the same shell). Important to know if you're attempting (as I did) to order these without having tried them on.
Although this is Garmont's first attempt at an NTN boot, and although the other NTN brands (Scarpa and Crispi) have so far been unsuccessful in building a good, reliable boot, I think that Garmont is going to nail it on the first try. There are some great, well-thought-out features on these boots. The replaceable sole on the toe, the replaceable wedge to protect the boot from the ski, the rock-hard lock between walk and ski (Scarpa could learn something from this design), and amazingly light. If only the ones next to me fit...
These look like screamin' boots, and I'm really impressed with Garmont (especially the boot's designer, Paul Parker) for their willingness to engage the telemark community in dialogue and to explain their product (see the many excellent discussions on telemarktalk.com). Unfortunately, because I live a thousand miles from a Garmont dealer, I crossed my fingers that 27.5 Scarpa would be reasonably close to 27.5 Garmont. This was the wrong thing to do--although my foot fits in a 27.5 Scarpa perfectly, my foot barely fits in the shell without the liner in the boot--way too tight for even a "performance fit." I'd be ordering another pair in a 28.5 right now, but Backcountry is out, so I guess I'm going back to Scarpa again this winter...