Full Tilt Seth Morrison Pro Model Ski Boot - Men's - 2009 BCS

It's a matter of personal preference but for me, the #10 is too stiff for mogul skiing. If I was buying a boot for just bump skiing I would look at the #4 or 6 tongue.

Sort of. For most of full tilts boots all of the parts are interchangeable and available to buy separately. What sets them apart is the quality of the liners and the stiffness of the tongue(shin piece). However, this year they introduced a few wider models like the Booter and the high five that are not interchangeable.

According to the stat sheet the full tilt is 1mm wider than the il moro. As you pointed out , the boots are pretty similar, the reason I would go with full tilt is that they are lighter and the fact that you can customize the boot with different tongue/ flexes. Make sure you try them on first as seth pointed out, you have to have the foot for them. Join the cult.

The flexon comps that I used to ride are pretty similar to the #6 full tilt tongue. The nice thing is, no matter which boot you buy can easily get a new tongue if the flex isn't what you want. FYI the morrison pro is the stiffest #10 tongue.

These boots are stiff, but can be made stiffer by riveting the cuff to the lower shell, if you really need that. The ski question is a bit odd, Souns like you want a narrow waisted ski for those firm days, maybe something from the race line up.

The #10 tongue obviously is the stiffest, but the boot flexes much differently than the 4 buckle style boots. The cuff has more forward movement than the 4 buckle boots. The boots are pretty much all the same, the tongue flex and liners are the main differences through out the line. So its hard to compare it to other brands stiffness. Find a shop that has them and try them on.

Try The 28.5 The moldable liner helps give a perfect fit. I would recommend getting shell sized in them before you buy with the past boot sizing issues.

I have one of the linner ovens from the Raichle days. These work best since it's like a convection oven. I have seen people use a regular home oven and done it once myself, you have to be carful not to melt the liner by touching it on oven parts like the rack or heating elements. 10 minutes at 250.

Seth, what method do you used to heat your own liners? I know this can be tricky to not over do it...but I've wanted to do my own for a while.

Thanks for the info on the fit!! I am thinking the 28 mondo shell would be more in the 1 to 1.5 finger range, then the 27.5 I picked up (the 27.5 is just under a finger). I am getting fitted at a shop in boulder that I think likes to fit boots quite tight, so they can sell their add-ons...may need to get into the 28!!

How is your shell size? Pull liner, just have toes touching front of boot, stick index finger behind heel and or index plus middle finger. You should have 1 to 1.5 fingers behind your heel.

Trying them on out of the box they should be tight, but you should have your ski sock on and footbed in as well. While molding them they will be even tighter since the liner expands when heated. You should have a toe cap on while doing said molding and have cant adjustments set prior to molding.

Once they cool off. If they still are to tight you can remold again and liner will loose more thickness. Fine tuning with shock thickness helps!

I'm not a boot fitter I just cook my own liners and know what works for me with this shell.

A comment about BC's return policy - awesome! I make every effort to buy from them because I know they stand behind what they sell and their satisfaction guaranteed promise isn't just blowing smoke.

the 26.5 is the same shell as the 26. I am a fan of whole sizes. The liner is thicker in whole sizes. I always like to round down, but everyones foot is different and you don't want something that is too big or too small. Wait a few days and they might get more in. So far its the only full tilt boot that has arrived so far, otherwise, you can buy it and exchange it if it doesn't fit. Or order both and return the one that doesn't fit(the shipping label will cost $6.99). You should know right away if the 25.5 is too small since you have had full tilts before. I am only saying this because you have had full tilt boots before. To tell if a boot is too big might not be as easy.
I say wait a few days and if they get more full tilts in but not more of this model then order both and return the one that doesn't fit before the due date of your credit card bill.
Edit 10/4/10
I emailed full tilt asking about how their half and whole sizes differ:
"Full Tilt FT original shells are the same for the full and half size. A size nine shell is the same as a nine and a half. The liners are also the same. Please keep in mind that we heat mold the half size liners on a half size mold/last. So if you try on the nine it will fit smaller than the nine and a half. The heat moldability is really what makes the difference for us with half sizes. Most other boot companies just put a spacer in to make up for the half size. Our boots are specifically heat molded for the half size. Once a professional ski boot fitter heats the liner it will lose the specific size it was and will be ready to mold to the full size or half size.
This does not include our FTI Influence shell used with the High Five, Booter and Mary Jane.
The FTI uses a different liner and boot board for each size."
The 26.5 should work for you.

Thanks Seth.....gonna get these soon love the graphics there sick.
P.S. If you wanna take me skiing sometime you totally can.....lol jk but I am a huge fan.
PEACE

This boot is not the stiffest boot in the boot world. The tongue on this boot is the stiffest in fulltilt line up. You can get different flex's of tongues to customize your needs to make them softer. Don't be fooled with what I do and thinking I have stiff boots, I use them for their softness,full flex, and foot fit. Stiff race boots are to much for me, you should be fine for resort skiing with these.

Cool man, thanks for the buy. You can tone them done a bit by removing the cable cover.

no, they are making a wider last boot though coming out next season.

rfl, I read the description of the SPK, seems like a park boot im more of an all mountain rider. Any all mountain boots that are good but would still fit a giant calf and ankle.

SPK.

Probably not. Best thing to do is find a shop to get shell sized. At this point you will see if your ankles will touch the hinge T bolts.

I use them for what your looking to do. I just unbuckle them if I want movement like forward flex. Mostly short skins and boot hikes 1hr to 2hr, have skinned 5 hrs plus with no problems.

So if I got a softer flex case as well, say 1 or 2 for when I'm skinning, would that solve the freedom of movement issue?

hiking is one thing, skinning is another one. If they are fine for hiking thanks to their lightweight, for skinning you need to have a boot with freedom of movement (flex forward).

there is NO traditional scale. however this boot is along the lines of a 120ish for some companies.

I've been skiing the bumblebees for about 2 seasons now. I have a wider toe-box and I've noticed some cramping because they are narrow (I've been skiing about 40 times in them, so, the liners have slightly packed out).
I just put a new footbed in them, so, if that helps with arch support and the cramping stops, I'll report back.

I demoed these last year and they fit great. I have fairly narrow feet but HUGE bunyons on my fore foot that make my feet super wide up front. With that said, this boot fit awesome, however, DO NOT buy a boot without trying it on first w/ a pro boot fitter (sports authority and dicks doesn't count). After you do that, come back to backcountry and get the sick deal.

Having said that i have a really wide flat foot and i wear 98mm Head race boots, i undo the two lower buckles on the lift but they are really comfy.. i think that a narrow boot is better because it is less likely to develop slop as the linner packs out (which it will!!). And you can always get the boot punched if need be.

The boot is 98mm in width so probably not the best for a wider foot. you want to look for boots that are 100mm or wider.

I have the same size boot as Seth, and I weighed them at the post office today. A pair of size 25 mondo weighs 8.1 pounds. That's about 1850 grams for a single boot, which is pretty close to the stiffest touring boots out there.

In comparison, my old salomon promodels with foam liners weigh 9.5 pounds for a pair in the same size. That's a big difference.

My Boots are 7's 25 mondo weigh 8 pounds together. Maybe 10 pounds? There is nothing lighter out there.

Stiff