Full Tilt Seth Morrison Pro Model Ski Boot - Men's

Awesome, thanks... As soon as I can find a 31 in either, I' getting them!

Just the color, same buckles tongue everything. I like the konflicts Granted the Seths are sick looking!

Thanks a lot! I will most likely try the 2013 Seth's or First Chairs. Hopefully, the rear support takes up significant room and my calves and shins are wrapped tight. That would be great.

I read on their website that they have shorter cables, but not anything lower than 25.5's. I will have to research more.

You can get short cables through the dealer or from fulltiltboots.com. The buckles do slide on a rail system for micro adjusting. The upper cable can be moved into 2 different positions making the cable shorter when room on micro adjuster runs out. As far as tongues, you can get stiffer ones through dealer or fulltiltboots.com Get the largest tongues sold it makes a difference especially on the size you tried on. Thats what I do and wear the same size you have tried on. The larger tongue comes up higher on the shin than the stock one. Heat molding the liners covers most fit issues out of the box. Make sure all adjustments are made before heat molding liners.

Side note on the Drop Kick, it doesn't come with a rear spoiler, which is located on the back top part of the shell, so it sits between shell and liner. This piece adds some higher rear support and takes up minimal space, but some. Also the drop kick liner is a lesser liner in respects to overall density and support compared to the pro liner of the Seth Morrison Pro. The tongue on the Drop kick is a #4 where the Seth Morrison Pro is #8 and you can upgrade easily to a #10 which comes in black.

Best thing to do is a shell size at a shop to know for sure. I am in a 25.5, but in other company boots I wear a 26. The 25.5 is really a 25 in the full tilt. With the moldable liner you get more room in the boot than with a traditional liner allowing me to be in 2 sizes smaller than my street shoe. Whats your street shoe size? Standard rule of thumb in ski boot sizing, one size smaller than your street shoe. If you use a foot bed that will take up some room as well. I don't use custom ones, thin old raichle stock liner foot beds.

They are pretty narrow. The High Five may work for you, they are by Full Tilt as well.

Don't buy these boots!!! I've skied on them the last two seasons, and experienced big trouble with the buckles. They sometime lock in a fixed position and in worst case you can't buckle up. FT says the last modell has improved. But we have to see. When I told them about the buckle problem they told me to "buy new buckles".

thanks - i actually tried the krypton rampage, and regarding that the fit of the full tilt is much better for me. but again, thanks!

if u have super narrow feet check out the dabello krypton pro's, they have one of the smallest lasts available and are very similar to these boots

Ahh - I missed that on the website. That is perfect, It allows me much more flexibility with customizing the boots compared to other models.

Thanks a lot Seth - I've been offered a decent deal for the 10 model here in Denmark, so I am actually considering that. That would allow the first remolding before leaving for BC on the 26th of dec. I cannot wait!

You would need to order shorter cables from the fulltilt site. You can't cut them. After the initial molding you won't lose much of the initial thickness. Remolding after the initial mold will make them roomier each time. The liner does hold up very well to "packing out". Even after a couple 100 days on my boots and they feel like 1st day.

I've bootpacked in these and wouldn't recommend it. The way the bottom buckle is designed leads to it catching and opening if it's not tightened down quite tightly, leaving it in a position very prone to breakage at the (by far) weakest point of the boot. This happened to me on my first day out. Luckily Backcountry has their awesome return policy, but it was a bit annoying/poor design. I keep an eye on it now whenever I do any hiking.

Other than that, I have nothing but VERY positive things to say about these boots! They're light and super stiff, they make my big fat skis feel nice and nimble. I have last years model (Punk theme) with the #10 tongue.

Vibram is helpful, but not as grippy as it is made out to be, I found. If you were concerned with exposure or slipping while hiking a boot pack then you most likely would want to be wearing crampons.

These would not be my choice if boot packing is a priority.

9.5

yeah i wear a size 10.5-11 shoe size and my feet are pretty narrow. what size would you recommend?

When you say shorter boots do you mean smaller? Best thing to do is do a shell size. This boot comes with an #8 tongue you can upgrade to a #10 that comes in black. I don't know anything about the boots you have. Goto a store and try them on, at least get a shell size, the liners need to be molded to get the proper fit. Also these are narrower than most boots.

Just recently did some slack country touring with these (with Marker Dukes and 4frnt Ehp's). I find them very easy to hike in due to the weight. In line with Seth's comment, yes unbuckling works great and is very close to a walk mode feel.

I have done all sorts of touring in these. I have others say unbuckling while skinning is like having walk mode.

Not sure.

When should the new buckle system come out

No updates on the buckle system, but yes it sucks the springs break, they are working on better springs and a new buckle system. And yes you need to be easy on the buckles because of the springs.