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First things first, like water and shade.

The First Need XL Water purifier has a 0.1 micron carbon matrix filter element which cranks out a rapid 1.8 liters per minute. The First Need by General Ecology has an incredible filter and a the super-fast pump rate. This advanced water purifier has a capacity of 135 gallons - which is substantial if you consider that the average person consumes about a half gallon per day. Many backpackers like this water purifier because it is compact and its redesigned handle fits comfortably in the palm of your hand.

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I HAVE ONE OF THESE THAT I GOT AT A GARAGE...

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I HAVE ONE OF THESE THAT I GOT AT A GARAGE SALE THAT IS HARD TO PUMP ! I BACK FLUSHED IT AND KEEP GETTING DARK FIBORERS OUT OF IT . IS THIN NORMAL STUFF OR SHOULD I KEEP FLUSHING UNTELL THE WATER IS FREE OF PARTICALES?? (THANK YOU )

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Water needs to be free of materials - if not, I would question the integrity and effectiveness of the filter cartridge.

4 5

first need xl great product.... but

OK, comming from a msr filter, this pumps nice, doesn't seem to awkward to hold and has a great flow rate. The plastic part of it is a wait and see thing I guess. The thing that really chaps my butt is that there are two adapters for this thing for wide mouth and narrow bottles... and you have to pay extra for it. No one carries it, so you have to order it and pay a very large amount of money for shipping it, and considering it weighs next to nothing, it should cost next to nothing to ship it... coincidence? I don't think so. So other that that... will wait and see. Would have bought the Katadyn pocket filter but money is tight right now.... yeah right who's isn't.... so will see how this goes.

4 5

first need xl great product.... but

OK, comming from a msr filter, this pumps nice, doesn't seem to awkward to hold and has a great flow rate. The plastic part of it is a wait and see thing I guess. The thing that really chaps my butt is that there are two adapters for this thing for wide mouth and narrow bottles... and you have to pay extra for it. No one carries it, so you have to order it and pay a very large amount of money for shipping it, and considering it weighs next to nothing, it should cost next to nothing to ship it... coincidence? I don't think so. So other that that... will wait and see. Would have bought the Katadyn pocket filter but money is tight right now.... yeah right who's isn't.... so will see how this goes.

4 5

Best filter I have tried

Treats everything! Not as fast and light as some but the quality of the water is best in class. The gravity feed option is a joke other than that it is a five star filter.

Write your question here...how well does...

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Write your question here...how well does the uv pen work and should I truct it

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Hey Johnny, I use the UV pens for water that is clear and it works fine... haven't been sick yet...

I have a First Need filter and have not...

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I have a First Need filter and have not used it for over 15 years, only has processed maybe 10 gal of stream water. Is the filter still good, or has something inside degraded. I also used the prefilter unit.

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Rich, I had the same situation 2 years ago. My dad had bought a first need fileter when he went to the boundry waters in the 90's. He only used it once, cleaned it, and then put it away. I needed a filter so I tested his that was more than 10 years old with blue food dye. You add the dye to the untreated water, pump it through your filter, and if you see blue in your treated water the filter needs to be replaced. Try this test and don't risk it if you see any blue. My filter failed and I ended up buying a new one.

5 5

Great Filter

I really love this filter comparing to all other ones. I attached picture so you can compare first need (on the left) and katadyn pro (on the right). You can note the clarity of the water filtered with first need. Much better quality of water although I like the katadyn as well.

Great Filter
5 5

The Best...

This is the best water purifier on the marker. I bit heavy, but well worth the extra OZ's. You will get a lot more life out of your cartridge if you backwash it now and then. But if your winter backpacking make sure it's not below freezing temp, or it will ice up in the filter and not work. I'll keep it inside my coat for an hour before using to keep this from happening.

Does the pre filter remove silt and...

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Does the pre filter remove silt and sand?

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It would filter out sand and most silt. The small remainder of silt that the pre filter would not filter would be filtered out by the main filter.

5 5

First Need Deluxe Water Purifier

Other pumps might be smaller or faster, but the peace of mind this reliable pump provides is why I haven't replaced it. The fact that it purifies the water is why I bought it. Five years later it still is pumping like new. Back flushing is easy, and is your water is debris-free, you won't experience any hiccups while pumping.

My friend's pump had a malfunction with the white hosing that takes the water to the filter(flaw in the material). He notified the manufacturer and was sent a replacement part with not further questions.

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Will this purify urine?

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Will this purify urine?

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First Need Deluxe Water Purifier

The design of this product is simple and effective, there is no unnecessary parts floating around when hiking. It's very easy to take apart and use which gives me peace of mind. This comes with a carry pouch that fits the purifier comfortably, as well as a thick plastic bladder that allows you use it as a gravity purifier if you need to multi-task. Two different size Nalgene bottles can screw right on to this unit, so you don't have to worry about fumbling around to get your water in a bottle. From what I saw, First Need sells different accessories that will let you do the same with whatever bottle you use. Overall, the First Need Deluxe Purifier is a great piece of equipment that is highly recommended

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Fits a Sigg, Nalgene and others.

5 5

Love the First Need XL and Use MSR Siltstopper to Extend Filter Life

I think the First Need XL is the best filtration unit, period. Filter clogging is the most common drawback issue I hear about. I picked this advice up when buying my First Need XL and I tried it. It works. I inserted an MSR Siltstopper in the intake hose line between the plastic intake end and the long line (cut the line about two inches from the plastic end and insert the Siltstopper in between. The Siltstopper filter takes the punnishment and the First Need filter goes for the long run and remains an easy pump. I clean the MSR when available water is really horrible and the MSR turns an ugly shade. BTW, I use the First Need XL as an Emergency Responder in large event first aid and disaster response teams.

4 5

Do not let it freeze

I have this filter works great above 32 degrees. started the AT this year until I got snowed out in the smokeys. Even with the filter in my bag at night and wrapped in layers in my pack during the day I still managed to let it freeze. Did the dye test and failed right away.

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I have had to filter cartidges that clogged when I filtered water closed to freezing temperature. When I got back home to more normal water temperatures it worked just fine. Anyhow, it's a great product and it puts out a lot of water in almost no time (if the temperature is right I guess).

5 5

Best Filter Hands Down

This thing pumps water lightning fast and will purify anything. I used mine in a sulphur hot spring once and it made it taste like arrowhead. Once you buy one you will never switch, and you too will end up having stories like mine. Talk to owners and you will find these things have a die hard following (for a good reason). It is the only purifier I use at my survival school (survival training school of california), and the only one i'll ever use. Good news is; they've upgraded from the delux to the xl so you can pick up a delux for around $75... and it's easily worth twice that... there are lighter filters, but the First Need has been the reigning king since it hit the market... oh yeah... they also screw directly on to nalgene and sigg bottles, no more spilling after all that pumping!

Best Filter Hands Down
5 5

BUY BUY BUY!

This purifier is obviously not the smallest and lightest weight available. But why do you take a water filter on a backpack trip anyways? To be able to freely drink water like you can at home! This allows you to do just that. Reliable, fits directly onto 32oz Nalgenes, and purifies the nastiest/smelliest water into clean and clear refreshment!

Is there a difference between the First...

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Is there a difference between the First Need "Deluxe" Water Purifier - and the First Need "XL" Water Purifier?

REI has it listed as the "XL" and Backcountry here has it as the "Deluxe"

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I guess the "XL" will do:
Cartridge Life: up to 150 gal
Flow Rate: 1.9 L / Minute

The Deluxe only does
Purification Rate: 1.8 L / min
Output: 135 gallons per filter

Pretty much the same thing i would say.

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FYI... BC says they are selling the deluxe version but I just purchased it and I actually received the XL version (XL is the newer version; I was happy).

The brochure inside the box says that the XL has:
An increased capacity
Faster flow rate
More secure hose fitting for backwashing
More debris holding capacity
Increased impact resistance

Overall, the XL is what you are looking for since they've discontinued the deluxe version. And like I said, I ordered mine from here and even though it says they sell the deluxe, I received the XL.

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