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Dynafit throws down the alpine touring cross-over gauntlet with the Zzeus TF-X Ski Boot, a burly four-buckle downhill charger compatible with any alpine or AT binding rig. Dynafit designed the Zzeus around an alpine-style overlapping shell for increased downhill support and a more progressive flex—not to mention easier entry. The Zzeus’ Triple Binding Sole system–interchangeable sole blocks for either standard ISO alpine bindings or touring setups–makes it a one-boot solution for freeriders who use a variety of gear. This boot’s walk mode offers excellent fore/aft articulation approaches and ascents.
Bottom Line: The DynafitZzeus smiles on skiers who worship downhill performance whether earning their turns or ripping the resort.
8.6 lbs is the weight for 2 boots, well 9 lbs on my bathroom scale is the weight for two boots at least! fyi 1950 g does not equal 5lbs, 2.6 oz it equals 4.35 lbs (why am I able to do gram to lbs measurements on my phone calculator? I'll plead the 5th!)
The Grivel Haute Route Ski Matic Crampon comes to mind as the ideal for ski mountaineering. However, if you're looking for more versatility, look to the Grivel G12, BD Sabretooth pro, or BD Cyborg pro.
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This boot is the sh**. Fits most feet really really well. Great heel pocket, not too high volume in the instep, and wide enough in the forefoot for most. Really bomber overlap construction means they ski like a champ, but they're still light enough to kill it on the up. Some durability issues with the liner, but other than that this is a winner.
Used these for 2010-11 season in Colorado. Home area is WP/Mary Jane, and my resort boots are SpeedMachine 12s driving XWing Fury (164). I'm 6'4", 200 lbs. and love bumps, high speed turns, and powder, and this setup is great for everything inbounds. Got the ZZeus to mate with Rossi S3 (177) for side- and backcountry. I've got high arch, wide ball of the foot, and narrow heel, so I took a risk getting Dynafits. The boots absolutely killed me until I had a bootfitter heat and stretch the forefoot, and I replaced the liners with Intuitions. Now these boots are friggin' sweet. Heel lock is dialed in while my foot does not pound with pain; I can ski all day in MJs bumps, or skin and ski all day in the bc. Skinned around Monarch, Berthoud, and RM National Park in absolute comfort. I would like more forward lean, though. The need for fitting and lack of forward tilt are what keep me from giving it 5 stars.
Kevin, What is the name and location of your boot-fitter. It took several months for the pain in my feet to abate after the season. I had to pass on a few bc trips due to pain last winter/spring.
I waited a loooong time to replace my 4year old boots and did lots of research and tried on lots of boots. Doing more and more touring, i wanted a boot with walk mode, but moreover wanted a boot that behaved properly while skiing DOWNHILL. This is The Boot. So light, comfortable and yet as responsive as my Langes! Feels like you're skiing in your bedtime slippers, only these slippers friggin rock. Dynafit did right by maintaining a traditional alpine overlap design. You will never feel like you sacrificed performance for weight. Fits ANY binding system too so I'll grow old with these as i migrate to lighter and lighter setups on account of my messed up knees and penchant for hard drinking.
So I have a question, I have the garmont endorphin's size 27, which are to large after a couple of seasons. I have a narrow heel and a wider fore foot. For lighter trips I have the radiums size 26.5 (cold feet!). Tried the dynafit Zeuss in Davos but these feel narrow in the forefoot. A season is about 30 days for me, I like a stiff AT boot but I find it difficult to get the right one. Preferably Dynafit inserts. Is the Mobe 26.5 a good gamble? Strong skier / ski mountaineer, weigh 72 kg.
Been skiing a long time and this is the first I've actually felt like a different skier as soon as I put these on. The immmediate difference was the "locked in" fell on my heel. No movement or shifting at all. At the same time, plenty of room in the toe box for comfort. That's a rare combination for any boot. I have a slightly wider than average foot and this boot felt snug but did not bite. I'm sure after a proper liner fitting they'll be even better.
The biggest difference was the immediate response to any lateral movement over my Alpine boots. This makes for a much quicker respones and a better carving feel to my 111mm under foot skis. Even on packed powder doing fast carve turns on early rise skis. I would recommend these boots to anyone who wants to improve their skiing. Don't be spooked by the reputation that Dynafit is only for people with narrow feet (I'm not sure what the last is rated). One note: These boots are a little harder to get in and out as a result of your heel being "seated" in more than your typical Alpine or AT boot but the extra effort is worth it. The interchangable sole blocks are totally cool. It works great after learning how to do them on the first attempt.
A happy BC.com customer now for over 3 years. They're the best. Hood River, Or
The used to sell the green monster in three buckle version: http://www.backcountry.com/dynafit-zzero-3-c-tf-alpine-touring-boot
It's not as stiff or supportive, but it does shave some weight off. The 4 buckle boots provide a better fit overall and lock in the foot better for more support. If you are really interested in it for the weight savings, my advice would be to get some of the higher end carbon boots like the tlt5.
They sell some ultra light race boots with 2 buckles, but no 3 buckle boots. The 4th, or toe buckle, well some people like to crank that down, but I really dont', so the only advantage to me is maybe the dispersion of torque across more points of the boot when needed. I think some people think a 4 buckle boot is "burlier" but then again I skied the Agent AT 3-buckle boot and loved it. I did notice a little more wear at the single lower buckle cross point on the agent AT's but this could have been due to the construction of the plastic, or the metal loops they use on their buckles (Tech..not dynafit)
These boots are going to take a life time to break-in. Lacks forward lean in ski mode. Not the cozy fit most readers have experienced. I'll have to ski these for the remainder of the season to form a better opinion. I have only spent 2 days in them so far and I have scars on my shins from the first day using them.
Agreed, 8 screws out, 7 screws back in per boot and you are done. Make sure the toe pieces are on the correct side, and don't forget about the extra 8th screw that goes in the back to hold the dynafit compatible rear insert in place!
It take me about 10 mins to do total, in front of the tv, with no real effort. A leatherman gets it done, screws just need to be hand tight. Cince them down a little bit at a time, working around the boot to different screws in a circuit.
The specs show 15,21deg forward lean, how do you adjust to more (21deg)forward lean? This explanation above seem like a strange way to adjust forward lean. I tried it and it doesn't seem to make a difference. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Here's what it says in the boot manual: "flip rear heel lever into walk/unlocked mode (fully elevated) and using all your weight, flex the boot forward as much as possible. While in that extremely flexed position, push the lever down, reinforce your cant with another strong push and slowly stand up until you hear the locking click of the ski walk mechanism."
Very comfortable. Completed the Haute Route with these after only three ski days in them to break them in prior (and had no foot discomfort during the entire tour!). A bit heavier than some other AT boots but sturdier too & thus great for crossover use as a regular downhill boot. No regrets about purchasing these bad boys!
Interesting choice in gear for the Haute Route. Verdicts = stiff, somewhat heavy and wide ski. Zzeuss = stiff, freeride touring boot. Duke/Barons = not the best tourer out there.
I spoke with Dynafit about the last on the ZZeus and Titan today. The last varies with the size of the boot. Size 27.5 has a 102 mm last. Size 29.5 has a 106.5mm last, so it looks like they go up 2.25mm with each size.
looking for an alpine boot with walk mood for occaisional backcountry trips, think that's what i got. done a little skinning with them, perfect, look like they'll be just fine on the downhill as well, but have to wait till next winter to see for sure.
Will this fly as a mountaineering crossover? Two questions 1: How much is fit customizable, ie. is there a thermomoldable liner? 2: Are these too heavy or burly for spats of glacier climbing? Will i regret my choice when I've toured up to crater rock on Mt. Hood and have to boot up the pearly gates?
If you are planning on doing alot of walking, I would look at a lighter boot for sure! These will ski great, but you will pay the price with an extra pound per foot! The liner is thermo-moldable.
I've taken a few trips in my Zzeus now, and I'm really happy with how they've performed. They were surprisingly comfortable on a 4 mile hike in, and once I was on snow, they articulate amazingly and give you a pretty free stride. They fit a BD Contact strap crampon like they were made for each other, and with a little bit of practice, kicking steps in high angle snow is pretty secure. My only two gripes are minor, first, I'm going to have to adjust the forward tilt in the downhill setting, as the default setting is too upright and doesn't give me enough forward lean. The second is that after about 6 hours in the boots, I start to feel constriction in the toe box. I have some small bunyons, so these are likely the culprits, and I think punching them out will solve the problem. Otherwise, these are a great boot, and they let me drive a pair of borrowed BD Ethic's (terrible ski btw) through hard ice, breakable crust, and deep slush.
I've used a Garmont Denali boot before, and this blew it out of the water. It has great articulation in the cuff in tour mode and it locks down like NORAD for the descent. I am a 10-10 1/2 size foot and I fit a 28 pretty well. I tried the 27.5s, but the toe box was too tight.
The heel catch on these fits perfectly with a Black Diamond Contact Strap crampon.
These boots (albeit spendy) are just about the best. They ski in the resort well, are super light, articulate while hiking well, and with the interchangeable sole pieces, they should be the last boot I buy for years and years. And I work in them patrolling +/- 120 days a year. the only issue was a narrow liner, but i didn't get them thermofitted, the easier solution for now was to put my comfy garmont tele liners in them, which fit my wider foot. They still ski great with that modification, if not better.
Can anyone compare the fit/sizing of Dynafit ski boots to Scarpa ski boots? I know how Scarpas fit my feet, but have never seen Dynafits in a store to try on...
I got these boots since they fit my skinny, high arched feet way better than any of the Garmonts or BD's I tried on. Uphill they are light enough and are fairly comfortable, downhill they are super stiff. These are my first AT boots, and after a full season of resort and backcountry touring I can now say that I will never go back to standard alpine boots, or any other brand for that matter. The absolute best thing about these boots is that after a full day of touring/skiing, my feet feel fresh and pain-free.
You mean like up a trail or scrambling with out your skis? They will work, but at over 8.5 lbs and tall and stiff, you will pay the price. If you want a boot to ski and hike in, look at something a wee bit lighter, or just get a pair of hiking boots!
Like it a lot, great boot light weight, stiff, good for touring in...but.... Had some issues with breaking the boot in. Normally I'd think it was just me but I have heard this from several other people as well. Dynafit's fit VERY slim to my understanding. This is not where the issue came from. I had some issues with the rear on one side, which I had taken care.
The ISO sole blocks are included, which is nice if you want to try some demo skis out and your local shop doesn't mount things with dynafit or AT bindings. Just be sure to give these boots some break in time before you have to head out for a big tour. Don't buy them the night before you leave to do the Haute Route.
These boots can handle high energy skiing on steep lines. They can charge hard, so don't be afraid if you are joining the ranks of the newly converted. If you are one of those people and are looking at this boot...welcome home, your feet never have to hurt again, and you can hike and ski 55 degree chutes in light, comfortable, high performance AT boots!
I am a big guy (235 lbs), and am hard on my gear. I am looking for a one boot solution, is this the one? I use older Atomic boots with a 120 flex index (for what that's worth) for resort and light b/c skiing and garmont g-rides on my a/t setup.
This is the best 4 buckle boot out there. A true 120 flex. It's an alpine boot that you can walk in. If your a big guy you will appreciate the power. Ski it Alpine all week long and put the Dynafit soles on for those weekend free ride tours.
Anyone in the northeast who has bought or is going to needs to bring them to Brian @ http://highpeakscyclery.com/ in Lake Placid for the fitting of a lifetime (I know thats super cheesy but this guy is so thorough I couldn't believe I was on the east coast). After five days in these boots I can't imagine wearing anything else. Plus after comparing them with my Nordica Speed Machine 10's with custom Intuitions I cannot really say anything other than a little loss of stiffness is the only difference. No loss of performance and a whole lot of light boot and comfort is the best way I can put it. Thanks Brian!!!
It all depends on your foot shape and overall feel. I would first recommend trying a pair on to size them up. Dynafit boots fit more true with their mondo sizing chart. With that said, you could be a 26.5 or a 27 for the size 9. I wear a size 10 shoe and normally fit well into 27.0 mondo's, but the 27.0s and the 27.5's were both tight and uncomfy. The 28.0s fit me much better... a little big. Based on my experience, I owuld go with a 26.5 or a 27 for you. Remember, BC.com has an awesom return policy so feel free to buy both the 26 and 26.5 and return the one that doesnt fit best. The 26.5 has a smaller shell size than that 27 so it would be good for you to try both and see which one feels the best. Liners will alwats pack out some, but not overly much on the higher end liners. Hope this helpsI wear a size 9.5 shoe and bought a size 26.5. After getting the liners molded they fit just right.
Are these boots really as light (5lbs-3oz) as your specs say they are? Given that they are constructed for downhill performance, I find this hard to believe.
The ZZeus TF-X has, as most high performance boots do, a narrow last, narrower than the BD Factor. I have a narrow foot, so I found it relatively comfortable. I tried both the BD Factor and ZZeus, and I have weird feet, but I found slightly more toebox room and less instep room in the Dynafits than in the BDs. Hope this was helpful.
There is no standard for flex rating it is all marketing. I would put this in a method or skukom cat for flex but this boot has more responsive pu construction as in 95% of alpine boots but lighter wieght. It skis most like an alpine boot because of this poly u shell and upper. Don't get caught up in flex number marketing.
This boot is the sh**. Fits most feet really really well. Great heel pocket, not too high volume in the instep, and wide enough in the forefoot for most. more...