On the up.
- Middle membrane (which sits between the velours and the primer layers) stops water from being absorbed and improves the skin’s edge seal
- Dynafit Stretch System prevents snow and ice from sneaking underneath at the tip and tail
- Bottom of skins provide a sweet grip and speedy glide
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I've had these skins for one season, and the rubber tips have broken two different times while touring.
The metal tail piece pulled through the skin ten miles in on my last trip; luckily I had a back up pair of skins.
And last but not least the glue barely sticks to itself let alone the ski especially when you put them on in the field.
The only positive I have for these skins is they do glide well.
Thanks Backcountry for your great return policy.
Best skins I've ever had. Pulling the skin tab at the tip of the ski, allows for quick removal without clicking out of my bindings. Custom cut skins are the way to go. Cheers Dynafit....and oh yeah.....Backcountry.
I have Dynafit Mustagh ATA expedition 168....
I have Dynafit Mustagh ATA expedition 168. Will these skins work, length difference can be adjusted, no? And it looks like a different tail hook?
Crystal, The Mustagh ATA ski comes in a 169cm (or 178 or 187). The 169cm skin here will match this ski exactly. Is this an older model ski you have? If so it may not work with this skin as there is no length adjustment and the skin is pre-cut to match the ski.
Glue sticks like teflon
The glue on these skins is poor compared to Black diamond. Every time I used these skins snow built up under the tail sections and along the sides of the skins (on the glue side, no snow stuck to the fur). After this happened the glue was useless. The skins would fall off under their own weight when I popped the tip stopper off. I sent these back and got the black diamond mohair mix skins. The dynafits have the same glide as the BD skis, maybe a little less traction, but they do pack down a little better. Bottom line, save your money and go with BD skins which you can usually find on sale somewhere.
One order consists of 2 skins, blue storage film and a carry bag for the skins.
Dynafit FT Mustagh ATA skin More Glide but less Grip
I was very disappointed with this skin. I could have gotten 2 sets here in Canada for what I paid. I thought I should buy the best and spend the money. They do have noticeably more glide but it comes with a price. I did not get the grip on the up that my old pair gave me. Even my ski buddy noticed I couldn't climb quite like I did before. I am grateful that backcountry is taking them back.
If it is all about the weight and glide these skins are for you. If you want good grip to climb steeper slopes stay away. Also the little plastic nub which attaches the skins to the toe of your skis sticks straight up. This makes it really easy for it to be kicked off by the other ski.
Are these skins supposed to come with a...
Are these skins supposed to come with a stuff sack? Mine didn't have one which I found surprising for the most expensive skin on the market so I don't know if mine was missing or not.
These babies have been working well for me all season, the tip and tail is tight. The glue is not super sticky but the system has never let me down. You can duct tape the tips so the rubber stopper does not fall out.
Good glide and good grip.
Pricey Skins but Lightweight
I've now been out touring on these skins a few times since I got them. I was previously using a set of BD Ascension STS trimmed for my K2 World Pistes, which are a bit too narrow for my Dynafit FR 10.0 AT skis. These fit my FR 10.0s perfectly without trimming.
Upsides - These pack smaller and are lighter than the BDs. The glue seems to work great (apparently a problem in past years). And they are easy to deploy in windy conditions with the simple tail hook and "stopper" style tip. I was a bit concerned about the metal loop on the BDs damaging the plastic tip on the Dynafit skis. The Speedskins allay that concern.
Downsides - The blue glue protector sheet that came with the skins is not reusable, so I'm simply folding these in half for storage. I'm a little concerned with how they will store over the summer...we'll see.
I had a bit of trouble with one ski tip kicking the rubber stopper out of the slot in the other ski, causing me to have to reinsert it on the fly. This problem can be mitigated by better technique, but it is a pain to reinsert.
Also, when pulling the skins out of their bag, I discovered that the rubber stopper can inadvertently be detached from the skin. Losing one of these in the field could cause significant problems. I may order an extra one to keep in my spare parts bag.
Finally, I'm not very impressed with the skin storage bag. My BD bag has drainage mesh and a nicer drawstring. The Dynafit bag is just a rectangular nylon bag. Not a big deal really, but it doesn't exude the same quality as the BD.
These skins are very pricey compared to others. We'll see if the cost is justified over time.
is this the same skin as the race? Dyafit...
is this the same skin as the race? Dyafit has several skins with the exact same description, just different dimesions. Are they the same? I'm looking for the suppossedly fast racing skins
These are precut ski-specific skins with a mohair/nylon mix. The World Cup Race skins are full mohair, don't have a tail clip and only come in a 160 length to match the Dynafit World Cup and Race Performance skis.
Speedskin - No Kidding
Used these skins for early season thrash up a valley in crusty conditions - they were superb. Lots of glide - Lots and yet grippy on the up. Comparison with another popular brand used the week before blew the G3 synthetics away - to be fair glop stopper might'a helped and these were super grippy on the up. For all round it seems that the Dynafit MA skins are the best I've tried so far - combine with ease of on and off and no trimming required and they're a winner. Only hiccup in the system was they were NOT easy to find up here in Canada - just like the Dynafit crampons - how about it Salewa?
Why don't you show product weights? Or the...
Why don't you show product weights? Or the sidecut dimensions of these skins. Will they fit my F10's?
Information is only as readily available as a manufacturer makes them. Dynafit doesn't list the weight either, but knowing them, I'd bet these skins are the lightest on the market. This skin is SPECIFICALLY meant to fit the Mustagh Ata ski. So the dimensions on the skins match those of the ski.
The 169 skin's dimensions are: 116-86-109
The 178 skin's dimensions are: 118-88-110
The 187 skin's dimensions are: 122-88-111
If you don't have the Mustagh Ata, I would look into a different skin.
I just got a pair my FR 10.0s (178cm) and they fit perfectly. No trimming required. I haven't used them yet, but they seem great.
Re: weight - I haven't weighed them, but their noticeably lighter (and more compact) than my Black Diamond skins for a similar sized tele-ski (K2 World Piste - 183cm)
244grams in a 178cm