Description
More sizes from fewer pieces.
The DMM Dragon Anodized Cams use a double-axle design to provide an incredibly high expansion range that standard cams simply can't match. This means that you have to carry fewer cams to cover the range of crack sizes on a given pitch, and you're more likely to grab the correct size when you're desperately trying to get in a piece at the crux. DMM added an extendable sling to this cam so as to let you adjust length for reduced rope drag on meandering pitches. As one of the most versatile camming devices available, the Dragon Cams are hard to beat.
- Double-axle design for extra expansion range
- Double axles work as cam stops to add security to tipped-out placements
- Doubled sling provides more extension to reduce rope drag on wandering pitches
- Careful machining eliminates all unnecessary weight from these cams
- Extendable 8mm Dyneema slings keep sling weight low and bulk to a minimum
- Color-coded anodizing helps you identify the correct size quickly
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First rack
jamp467286
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This is my first set of personal cams. The quality seems top notch and they're easy to rack and use. The extendable sling takes a bit of practice but it's not too hard really. I also really like spending the money on a company that values quality manufacturing.
Comparable to C4 Camalots
Daniel Hupp
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- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I picked up the #1-#4 dragons back in July, mainly so I could be different than everyone climbing on Camalots. But almost six months later, I am extremely pleased with the gear for reasons other than satisfying my self-righteous hipster-ness. These cams are very lightweight, very durable, and the features are really practical. The extendable sling in a fantastic idea, and it totally has come in handy on some wandering lines. The pommel grip is cool, although I do prefer the loop on the Camalots. The only issue that I have with the dragons is some of the units I purchased have sticky action. It's not terrible, but the Camalots seem to have a more consistently smooth action. One thing that I think makes the dragons stand out above the rest is the attention to detail from DMM. Each cam goes under more scrutiny than any BD cams, and that gives me peace of mind.
Overall, I love these cams, and i will continue to build my rack with DMM gear.
#5 Blue is a keeper
Darren
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- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I really cant comment on the other sizes, however the DMM #5 blue ie equivalent to the BD #3 blue c4 camalot, is sweet. I really enjoy placing this cam and will reach for it with gusto. I am not sure why, but it just feels good to place and feels very secure. Perhaps its the Klingon looking design of the lobes. I dunno. I like the option of having the extendable sling if needed. I have so many cams, uhh, so much unlawful carnal knowledge with the gear. I need therapy. I have never fallen on this cam
Great alternative to BD Camalots
Patrick Mulligan
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I love the extendable sling and will be purchasing about 1/2 of these and 1/2 of the camalots in the future. for those that say re-rackign is a hassle, I can tell you that they simply have not climbed with these. The slings are short enough to re-rack without shortening.
The new addition to the climbing Rack...Stoked on the Dragons!
Captain Disaster
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Just stoked on the cams...The extendable sling is pretty dope!
How long are the slings on these when...
HBL
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How long are the slings on these when extended?
Arthur Debowski
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9 inches extended.
nice cam
Garrick Steele
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I wouldn't recommend starting your rack with these, but if you are looking for seconds or thirds of a size you may find use for these.
Are the gold and blue (size 4 and 5) dmm...
Garrick Steele
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Are the gold and blue (size 4 and 5) dmm dragons assured to be free of the issues that forced the recall back in February 2011? From the pic it looks like the blue one has a turned axle boss, which was the reason for the recall. Site link to recall info: http://dmmclimbing.com/news/2011/02/important-safety-notice-dragon-size-4-and-5-recall/
Thanks for any insight you may have. - Garrick
Thomas Ogasawara
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Good catch Garrick! The images are definitely of the turned axle bosses, but my guess is that Backcountry just never updated the image. Climbing companies take this stuff very seriously (as they should) and I highly, highly doubt that Backcountry would sell recalled cams. Again though, you never can be too safe!
Thomas Ogasawara
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Also, Ryan Grimm (see the picture below) has a set, and from the picture you can tell that the cams have the hot forged axle boss, so assuming he bought them from Backcountry..
Garrick Steele
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these dragons have the hot forged axle boss. maybe i was overly hesitant on getting these, of course no company like backcountry.com would sell recalled climbing gear. Thanks for the reassurance Thomas!
Captain Disaster
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The old cams were cold forged so if you are buying the hot forged cams you will have no issue with recalled gear. Also if you look at the top of the camp (stem pointed down) and see that it has an "X" shape that is an indication of the new hot forged cam (see photo).
Strong competition
Ryan Grimm
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When I saw DMM's announcement about these cams I was extremely excited to try them out. I've been satisfied with every piece of DMM equipment that I've used in the past and really wanted to see how much DMM could challenge Black Diamond. There is no doubt that the C4's are fantastic cams and I'm always happy to rack up with them. However, after almost a year of climbing with the Dragon cams, I'm a touch happier racking up with them.
So many things are similar between the two cams but two things really stand out in my mind:
1) Honestly, it feels good to support DMM and their commitment to their local workers. I'm not going to say much else about this as it has more to do with my morals than anything else. But if you value such things, it's a selling point.
2) The entendible slings. At first I wasn't really sure how much I'd use this feature, but when it's so convenient I realize how often I want more extension than you get with the C4's but less than you get with an alpine draw.
Are either of these reasons to replace a set of C4's with Dragon's? No. But, if you're looking to get your first or subsequent set of cams they are worthy of strong consideration.
James Jenden
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Nice review, Ryan. I'm very content with my C4s, and I love the thumb loop for placements, but I definitely wish I had the longer sling a lot of the time. I agree with you on DMMs commitment to their workers. On one hand, I like my gear to be as inexpensive as possible, but DMM has excellent quality control, and they are one of the few companies that does it all in house, and I love that.
Wilma, I'm going bowling!
nodachi1
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I've been meaning to add some cams to my rack for quite a while, having been content to borrow Wild Country Friends, DMM 4CU and BD Camalot C4 cams.Now that I've come to purchase my own, I've opted for A1 quality. El Dragons are twin axle like the C4s, are of a newer design, cheaper and have an extendable sling, which is 9un)surprisingly handy.Plus, compared to the single axle ones, the heads don't rotate disconcertingly about the axle, and have a larger camming range apparently - but I don't care about that... I just want them to fit into cracks.I've used my No5 Dragon Cam quite a lot, it's saved me on a fall, held me securely while freaking out en route, and have even used it 3 times on a single pitch.I love them more than words can say!
dienachtwandler
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With the exception of the #6 they are not cheaper..
Blake Green
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These are definitely not cheaper than the c4s. A .5 c4 translates to a #1 dragon cam (the dragons are color coated with c4s which makes them nice doubles since they have the same range) and is $15 dollars cheaper. The c4s range from 5-15 dollars cheaper the whole way through the sizing... That being said, the dragons also have a significantly shorter stem to reduce weight which has pros/cons.
First, this makes them worse for reaching or deep placements.
Second, even though you think, "oh yea they're lighter, they're actually making up for the added weight of the metal fitting at the end of the cam that allows for the double sling." Check the weight specs and they come out pretty similarly, pretty much eliminating any weight savings of the shorter stem and instead only emphasizing the cons of more difficult placing. Nice cams, but C4s are same bang for less buck, in my opinion.
Blake Green
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edit those quotes: "Oh yea they're lighter,"
Jim M
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Yes, the BD are cheaper, but that is because BD has moved manufacture to China... I'll pay a little more and send my money somewhere else.
nodachi1
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Commiserations... they were cheaper when I bought them, and now that I've climbed with them, I would've been happy to buy them even if they weren't (the longer, extendible slings are very useful!).
Weight saving is a definite advantage for me, because if you don't know precisely what gear you'll need, you end up carrying everything, and the weight savings add up.
As for shorter stems, I've never noticed/cared they are shorter, nor noticed any advantages/disadvantages/problems. I don't agree with the 'deeper placements' comment - cams go in parallel cracks, so placing them more deeply into a crack doesn't confer any additional advantage - it's placing them correctly that counts. Furthermore, you've got to be crapping your pants if you're wishing your cams had longer stems.
Finally, completely agree with @Ryan's comment - very happy that DMM develop and manufacture in-house and onsite, and support their local workers.

Dominion
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