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From the backcountry to the resort, the pow to the groomers, the Verdict can handle it.

Slash the powder all morning, then make trenches in the hardpack all afternoon with the Black Diamond Verdict Ski. Despite its large dimensions and powder leanings, this quiver-of-one has all the power you need to charge down steep faces. This versatile ski has won awards from Skiing Magazine, Outside Magazine, and Powder Magazine. The secret to the Verdict's aggressive, race-inspired feel is the CNC-machined solid wood core. The core profile transfers torsional power to the tips and tails to give you more control, while retaining a smooth longitudinal flex. Despite the burly construction and fat profile, the Verdict retains a light weight for long tours over variable terrain or for making jump turns down tight chutes.

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4 5

Great Ski for a Rookie

I mainly snowboard, but my uncle wanted to go hit up Alta, the rat bastard..

Anyhow, I used some random boots and thought I was going to be in for a day of hell. Surprisingly I didn't fall too many time, and even made it into so fluffy goodness. The ski felt great edge to edge and handled better than expected.

Enjoy thoroughly.

How does the BD verdict ski differ from...

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How does the BD verdict ski differ from the BD kilowatt ski?

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The Kilowatt is a narrower ski, (121-95-109) with a tighter turning radius, (18.5m) and it has a softer, rounder flex, and weighs 6lbs 11oz. The Verdict has a 25m - 27m turn radius, stiffer flex, and bigger dimensions. The Verdict floats better in powder and likes to carve faster, longer turns and weighs 9lbs 11oz, give or take. It's a pretty close match to the Team 100, while the Kilowatt is more like the Prophet 90. If you'll be skiing more powder than groomers, and like to go faster, then I'd suggest the Verdict. The Kilowatt would be better for east coast, or Rocky Mountain groomed runs.
Hope you find something that works for you. Enjoy!

5 5

On my list

Got to demo these on a few stellar powder days up in Whitefish, MT. Lets just say I'll be buying them first thing next season - they absolutely tore it up. It took me an hour or two to really get a handle on them, but when I did, oh baby. Seems like the perfect balance between a touring ski and a powder ski.

5 5

Great Stablity - Likes to Go Fast

I have the BD Verdict in a 180 as a 100% touring ski. It is mounted with Dynafit Vertical STs. While I am at the upper end of sizing for the 180 (I am 6'3", 185 lbs.), I wanted something easier to turn in steep couloirs for spring BC skiing. The Verdict is a great touring ski because (i) it is relatively light for its size, (ii) it has great stablity at speed and in almost all snow conditions (more on that below), (iii) it can handle hardpack like a GS ski and (iv) with a 102 waist, it floats great in powder. The biggest factor for me other than the weight was that it is known to be a rock stable ski in all snow conditions. We all know that in the backcountry, you really get a wide variety of snow conditions (it is not always hero powder). I wanted something that can float pow, but a second later bust through nasty crust and hold a good edge on steep, icy couloirs. The BD Verdicts fits just the ticket. ONE IMPORTANT CAVEAT: Please note that these are not the most "turny" skis. They are really based upon GS-ski technology and thrive at higher speeds. The harder you push the ski, the better it responds. Therefore, I think this is a great touring/daily driver ski out West for bigger skiers or those skiers who tend to ski their skis hard. This would be a difficult option for a meadow-skipper or someone who likes lazy turns on the tails (not that there is any problem with that!!!!). If you are a fairly aggressive skier who tends to ski in a strong position at most times, or simply want to be forced into a stronger position, these are great option. BD skis also have a great price for the ski you are getting and in my humble option wear nicely (I have BD Megawatts as well which are holding up great).

Hey,
I was wondering what size Verdicts...

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Hey,
I was wondering what size Verdicts to get 180 or 190. I am 6'0 and weigh between 185 and 200 depending on how much food I have available. Got any extra?
Anyways, I ski mostly in the backcountry in AK. I like shorter quicker turns... any ideas.

Thanks,

Chris

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if you like shorter quick turns go with the 180s, otherwise your size would warrant the 190, but that is alot of ski.

5 5

If your looking for power...

I demo'd these fine beasts at the Canyons Resort in Park City, UT, and was to say the least pretty darn impressed! I love a ski that really lets me through everything I have into it, and these sure do fit that bill. If your typical day on the white stuff included touring up, and high speed, technical assaults down, these are your planks. I would caution any moderate skiers to look at some of the other fine skis in Black Diamonds line, as these are very stiff, unforgiving, and full on power machines. Bottom line: The Verdicts in, ski them as hard as you can.

4 5

Light and Stable

I got a chance to take the Verdict ski with the BD Fritschi Diamer Freeride + bindings to Targhee for a weekend in early February. Didn't get as much snow as we hoped for, but the Verdict performed well. It's my favorite fatish ski I've tried this season, stable and reasonably quick edge-to-edge on the pack. With the Freeride bindings it makes for a nice light weight rig.

5 5

My Favorite Ski

After a few years of telemark skiing the BD Verdict has become my all-time favorite ski. I use it in bounds about 50% of the time, skiing deep powder, hitting cliffs and charging groomers. The rest of my time is spent in the backcountry, where my Verdicts mounted with BD '01 Midstiff bindings get me anywhere I want to go. They are fat enough to handle most powder (although I've had days of 3+ ft. where I wished I had some Megawatts). They are lighter than many other skis of similar dimensions while still maintaining enough stiffness for touring and making aggressive tele turns. These skis are designed for anyone who is an aggressive skier and wants to push their skis day after day.

5 5

Fun, aggressive ski

So, I've skied the Black Diamond Verdict (mounted w/ Freerides) in a variety of conditions and I must say, this is a fun ski. In fresh pow, they float right to the top. They're quite stiff and do an excellent job punching through the crud, yet, are agile enough to hop from bump to bump when the moguls pile up. On the groomers, this ski is fast and stable (though it definitely prefers long radius turns to short). I like this ski so much that it will become my new go-to ski for pretty much everything.

5 5

GREAT skis

I love these skis. I ski them with an 01 BD binding, but I am having some trouble making tele turns on them so next season i will switch them to AT, They are a fun, stiff ski. They float really well, are great at busting through crud and hold a good edge on hard pack. I did ski a pair of 180s (too long) with the fritchi bindings and they were fun and FAST on the groomers if you push them hard, but I had trouble getting them around in the trees (like I said too long). I can't wait to get my 170s set up with AT bindings, it will be a killer Utah setup.

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What's your height and weight? I'm looking at getting these.

5 5

Sick Skis - Buy if you can!

Recently picked a pair of the Verdicts in 190cm size, and though I only have one day on them - I'm impressed. Though they read as AT or Tele boards, these are pure skis. Mounted up with Salomon 916 bindings for resort skiing, I want another pair for my AT setup. A real deal, as they are priced far below competitors. The sublime midnight blue finish spells roots. Fat enough for anyone, stable, yet they come around. Pretty light underfoot, which spells well for BC and touring. Just great skis for the aggressive, modern, multi-disciplined skier.

My wife is looking for a phat pair of ski's...

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My wife is looking for a phat pair of ski's to throw some BD O1's onto, it will primarily be used in the backcountry specifically we live in alaska (the chugach is in my backyard)? Not to be a male shovanist but would this be a good ski, I've never seen a women ride them before, not to say they can't, I just havent... I guess my main concern is they would be too heavey to slogg the uptrack with

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These are stiff and heavy. Perhaps killowatts?

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Verdicts are a way better ski than the kilowatts, I know quite a few women that ride them. I don't know why this Michael guys is so into the kilowatts, everyone I know on them is not overly impressed by them. But tons of folks love verdicts.

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i am a women and i ride the exact set up you are asking about. I LOVE these skis but have a hard time making tele turns on them. If she is an aggressive skier and good tele skier (I wasn't when I got on this set up) she will love them. They are a bit heavy but with the free pivot on the 01's it makes the up-track much easier and the ride down is totally worth it.

5 5

Tasty and Delicious

I'm 6', 165lbs, ski hard, but ski both east and west coast. I've got a pair of Armada ARGs for the deep days out west, but they blow on the groomers. I was looking for something that would float well out west but still hold an edge on NE boilerplate.

The Verdicts fit the bill nicely. Stable at speed, able to hold their own on real ice, and plenty of board underfoot to keep you from drowning in the pow. Light enough that a long bootpack won't kill you (though the Dukes I mounted mine with might). Nice subdued graphics. Only downside I've found is that they come with a couple of stickers on the topsheet of one ski, that are a bummer to get off. Otherwise my everyday ski. Highly recommended.

I would like to get into AT skiing and was...

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I would like to get into AT skiing and was wondering if the Verdicts would be a good ski for bc touring in coastal north west snow conditions. I currently tele on K2 work stinx 181s. I'm 5-10 175 and an advanced telemark skier. Any thoughts on length?

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Get the one 180's. I have naxos on mine and like them. They are much heavier and stiffer than the killowatt though.

I'm questioning my choice of the Salomon...

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I'm questioning my choice of the Salomon Lord for a Slackcountry ski. I have it set up with Baron's, and I find that it doesn't float enough and wants to carve instead of surf like my Rockers. Will the Verdict be better for powder while still retaining some hard snow performance? Right now, the Lord's are almost TOO good on the groomers, but not good enough in pow. I want something with less sidecut and less camber, but still capable of carving a turn. Is this ski I'm searching for the Verdict? Or should I be looking for something like a Line Prophet 100, Scott P4, or something else?I am 200lbs, 6' tall and would be using Baron's on the new skis. Right now I use alpine boots with my Baron's, but I'm in the market for some AT boots because skinning on flat terrain with alpine boots is a huge PITA (going uphill is fine).Help?

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The Verdict is a sick ski and would be great!

5 5

The Verdict Ski will make you a big mountain hero...

I weigh 240 lbs. 6'2 built like a Viking and these skis let me push my skiing to new levels. Living in Juneau Alaska I rally these 190cm beauties daily. Mounted with Freeride Plus Bindings, I believe these are the best one ski quiver for inbound and back country skiing. Paired with Garmont's Adrenaline boots, a Big Mountain Hero couldn't ask for anything more... atleast I cant.

I'm 5'10" and a little heavier at 190. I...

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I'm 5'10" and a little heavier at 190. I was wondering if I should go for this in the 180, or get the havoc in 185 and what the pros adn cons of each were.

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depends on what you are going to be skiing and what your skill level is... alsowhat ski are you on now?

5 5

Black Diamond Verdict Ski

I got to try the Black Diamond Verdict for a day, and now I'm dying for a pair. They are a wonderful stiffnes which can be hard to find in a reasonably light ski. They were slightly heavier than I was expecting, but for the performance, they're well worth it. My everyday ski is the '07-'08 Dynastar Legend Pro Rider and I wish I had a pair of Verdicts for my touring set-up vs. the noodles I currently have my Fritschis on. The Verdicts blew through wind affected snow and were to me an ideal width for a touring ski. They also held an edge really well on groomers, though personally I actually wish they were slightly straighter. A great ski for your touring set up, or your one ski quiver for both in bounds and backcountry skiing.

what is a good tele binding for this ski?...

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what is a good tele binding for this ski? will hammeheads or o2's cause alot of tip dive in pow? i guess i should add what cartridge to yse if i went with an 01/02 binding?

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Either will work fine, if you are in a three buckle boot probably the midstiff, if in a four buckle the ridstiff. You will be happy with either binding. It is really a matter of preference.--------------I've never skied the Hammerheads, always O2s, but I've heard from fellow tele skiers that Hammerheads don't behave as well in powder. The spring is way up front, so it torques down more.------------Have skied both Hammerheads and 01's (same underfoot cartridge system as the O2) I can confirm Angus's theory about the Hammerheads. I prefer my 01s on deeper days for sure. As for the cartridge, depnds on your boot's bellows flex. If you are in a little softer flexing boot (Scarpa T1, BD Push, most of the 3 buckles) go with the mid-stiffs. For stiffer boots (custom, ener-g (soooort of), t-race) use the rid-stiffs. I use the rid-stiffs with my t-races and the combo works really well.

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The jury has spoken...

Great all-around ski for anywhere in the west. If you live on the east coast check out the Havoc. The Verdict is not huge so it is fine on longer tours yet big enough to ski on a pow day at Alta. Surprisingly great edging on firm snow. Stability in all types of snow seem to be the #1 quality of this ski.

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