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To the charge of being incredibly versatile in all conditions and terrain, we find the defendant guilty.

Way different than the Verdict of old, the Black Diamond Verdict Ski rocks a hybrid fun-shape to keep it stable and provide easy turning, even at low speeds. Designed as a slay-anything plank  that can handle everything from steep, icy chutes to epic tours, the Verdict boasts improved stability, dampening and durability for those days when you'd rather charge through the crud than steer around it.

Equipped with a rockered tip and tail and regular camber underfoot, the Verdict takes you to any terrain on the mountain and supplies a wickedly-fun ride through soft snow, groomers, techy terrain, and tight trees. Designed with Formula One 3D metal sandwich technology, the Verdict features heavyweight metal combined with lightweight construction for high-performance freeride results. Made with a Paulownia 3D CNC wood core, the Verdict has the strength and durability of poplar wood with the weight of balsa for lightweight performance. Its 8mm ABS sidewalls also provide durability and protection against mechanical damage or regular skier abuse. Oh, and this versatile, all-mountain ski features Power edges for superb freeride durability.

  • Rockered tip and tail with regular camber underfoot
  • Formula One 3D Metal sandwich with Titanal
  • ABS 8mm sidewalls
  • Paulownia 3D CNC wood core
  • 100mm waist
  • Power edge
  • P-Tex 4000 base

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3 5

Nice ski, but there's better.

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

I used the Verdicts for two seasons and put them through deep powder, ice, crust,and new england chowder. First, I would say don't buy these unless you just ski powder or like speeding down a mountain with little turning. Maybe it was just me, but just couldn't maneuver these skis in tight trees the way I would've like to. On the other hand, they survived two seasons with little wear and they do have a nice construction to them.

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Then I take it you skied the previous version... The one pictured above was just released this winter. And is supposed to be a more lively ski...

4 5

Impressed

  • Familiarity: I've used it several times

loving this ski so far on the east coast; it's been a down snow year but have toured a bit and not as heavy as anticipated; performs pretty well on the hardpack/ice and what little crud i've been in so far; highly recommend; i'm 6'2, 170 and the 180 is working just fine

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I am here in NH... Did you get the skis out in last Thursday (Feb 13) wet clumpy stuff? Or today's (Feb 19) fluffy powder? Was wondering how this handle the variable stuff... I am looking at the current model or last years version.

5 5

The one quiver with a surprise

  • Gender: Male
  • Familiarity: I've used it several times

I bought these skis for a one quiver setup, traveling. Put dynafit radical. I am comparing them to seven other skis I ride including amperage and convert. Thought it was gonna tour a 5 out of 10 but seemed more like a 8 out of 10. This ski can do it all I love it. Shorter tours, fast carving, charger, backwards, crud, sidecountry, bumps. Was also surprised because not too impressed with the amps (except in powder) and converts. Haven't really got a good test in powder but I feel it will handle as expected and I don't ski park.

4 5

Fun ski

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

So, even though I know this years version is pretty different than last years, I still think last years version has a few similarities that may be helpful.

Overall, this is a pretty burly ski. I'm coming from skiing on pretty playful and light skis, so take that with a grain of salt, but this ski has a lot of metal in it, it's on the damp/heavy side, and really does lay trenches through variable conditions pretty well, especially for it's width. I'm an east coaster, and I've been really pleased with how well this ski does on hardpack/ice.

I have noticed that the tails can get a tad hooked up if you're used to just effortless turning. You have to be in the drivers seat a tad more, especially in variable stuff.

Overall, a pretty fun, damp, fast ski that does great on east coast conditions.

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Unanswered Question

This years Verdict or last years Verdict?...

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This years Verdict or last years Verdict? I was greatly disappointed in the Orange Verdict (2010/11? Cant remember the season)... Anyone think it was better ski last year or is this years tweaks made it a better ski? More damp or more stable? Is this years revised model more a Mantra or K2 Hardside? I'm a East Coast skier on tech bindings...

Are the practical for short tours? They...

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Are the practical for short tours? They sound like they could get heavy.

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Matt,
The metal sandwich construction is going to keep this ski at a bit more weight than other touring BD touring skis, though it does allow it to hold an edge in hardpack and crud better. Check out this chart of the weight of the skis:
[164 cm] 3.9 kg (8 lb 10 oz)
[172 cm] 4.1 kg (9 lb 1 oz)
[180 cm] 4.3 kg (9 lb 8 oz)
[188 cm] 4.5 kg (10 lb)

Check out the Aspect or Revert skis for similar downhill performance and less weight under foot for uphill performance.

Best Answer Responded on

I think the real question is: What bindings and boots do you plan on using?

For instance:
Plum Bindings + La Sportiva Spitfire Boots + Verdicts = Huh?
The Verdict's raw power will literally scare the boots and bindings off the ski.

But...

Salomon Guardian Bindings + BD Factors + Verdicts = Bliss and sore hip flexors (worth it!)

I have Verdicts with black diamond factor boots and marker barrons for short tours and in-bounds skiing. I absolutely love the setup. I'm not a super athlete, but I'm no couch potato either and I think they're worth the extra weight. This setup just never limits my skiing. I've toured all day with this setup and it was fine.

Sure the verdicts are heavy but so are my bindings and boots. If you're carrying burly boots and bindings you'll want a ski that can handle them otherwise there's little point to the extra weight.

I have another setup for touring (BD Aspects, Dynafit Verticals, and Scarpa Maestrales). For really long tours they're good. I always have to dial it back though otherwise I can ski through the equipment.

Is that helpful?
I'm 150 lbs, 6' tall, and ski the 180's.

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BG20... Are you skiing this years updated Verdict or last years model? I'm planning to ski the East Coast exclusively... with the G3 Onyx bindings, BD Prime boots (also have the BD Quadrant). just wondering if it is worth it to buy the latest Verdict when last years is on sale. I plan on the 180cm (155lbs at 5'7"). Any feedback is welcome...

What is the running length of the ski...

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What is the running length of the ski versus total length with rocker? Thanks.

Responded on

Hi, so the rocker takes roughly 276mm out of the tip and tail so approximate running lengths are
164 = 108.8
172 = 116.8
180 = 124.8
188 = 132.8

those are not exact to the mm but they are really close

What's the weight for these skis? Not in...

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What's the weight for these skis? Not in tech specs
Cheers

Best Answer Responded on

Weight per ski (grams):

164 = 1950
172 = 2050
180 = 2150
188 = 2250

Hey love my 2009 verdict skis. These 2013...

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Hey love my 2009 verdict skis. These 2013 skis look tight. But I need 105-110 MM underfoot. Who has an answer/wisdom for me? I am 165 LBS 5'9" expert skier &love skiing the trees in the backcountry

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Hey, if you are looking to stay with Black Diamond, check out the Zealot. 110 mm waist, great freeride ski :
http://www.backcountry.com/black-diamond-zealot-alpine-ski?ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6YmxhY2sgZGlhbW9uZCBza2lzOjE6NA
You can also check out the Convert ski (105mm waist):

http://www.backcountry.com/black-diamond-convert-ski?ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6YmxhY2sgZGlhbW9uZCBza2lzOjE6NQ

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